WAR in BC. Do we need it?

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Originally Posted by Amra

I hate to be a downer, but I'd say the larger question is, is there a benefit to being a warrior at all right now? The answer I keep coming to is no.

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We are much better dungeon tanks than PLDs.

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Originally Posted by Amra

I hate to be a downer, but I'd say the larger question is, is there a benefit to being a warrior at all right now? The answer I keep coming to is no.

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Yeah I gave up on my Warrior.

Started leveling up the Paladin, I have all my level 50 DL gear ready so I don't mind much. The Warrior is such a let down at end game, well after Garuda.

Despite all the negativity, I am looking forward to the challenge of end game as Warrior as I really enjoy the class. It will be even more rewarding when I do finally complete things.

"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life." Confucius (551–479 BC).

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Originally Posted by PessimiStick

Until they buff WAR, yes, it will. On any content where incoming damage is severe, PLD is better. Now, in 2.1, in 2.2, etc. The only way to change that is to fix the core issue. PLD scales off incoming damage, WAR scales off their own damage. That's broken, and PLD will always be superior on raid content as a result.

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Can you not read?

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Originally Posted by KogaDrake

The state of PLD > WAR is not going to hold true for every fight from now till the end of the game

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That clearly says from now until the game ends (years from now hopefully), and if you do not ever expect SE to make class balance adjustments then you have nver played an MMO before. War can do everything up to turn 4 (even if its not as easy as PLD) and in time they will be ever or if any MMO in history has showed us anything it is that there will come a time where WAR > PLD on everything and the people who now say cant use WAR will be saying cant use PLD.

SE will do what they wish on the matter but I just want to point out one thing. If you want to get to content as quickly and as easily as possible, there's no reason to pick a warrior in Coil, true. However, just like how many single player games have difficulty settings, it's your choice how much challenge you want Coil to be. And if you really do enjoy playing a Warrior, then go find some like minded people.

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Originally Posted by Someonewithclap

First of all, if you had to buy your Titan run in any fashion, your probably not ready for Coil.

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Implying that Titan is hard for tanks.

I personally have a Tanking set and DPS set of gear. And I usually keep up in damage with MNKs and DRGs in full DL+Relic. In my FC, I went to Titan Hard as my WAR in my DPS gear and we did fine. Plus if an OH SHIT! moment happens with the MT you can quickly grab the aggro and hold off until the MT can be raised and reclaim the aggro.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by klops

We use Paladin/Warrior duo and we are on Turn 5. There is nothing that Paladin/Warrior does better than Paladin/Paladin, but Paladin/Warrior has never been a reason we have died. With Samurais and Ninjas on the horizon and Warriors currently being the only Job with Slashing resistance debuff, we don't have a problem gearing our Warrior for future content.

Good luck!

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that is great Foresight lol!

i'd dread healing one

FC recently downed turn4 for the 3rd time. All 3 were with PLD/WAR, and 3 different WAR players. Turns 1 and 2 work ok with WAR too.

Just re-iterating what was more or less said already: WAR can be sufficient. But there's little need for what WAR can do better than PLD currently (and NOT vice versa).

If you're just pugging coil as a warrior, I doubt that will go well. Join a decent FC and it'll be much better.