Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

Last night, queued up for MSQ Roulette, already a red flag. Got Castrum. Simple enough, right? WRONG.

Everything went smoothly up until the assault ship went down.

Apparently, our Paladin tank decided to slip in through the boss door immediately before hand, and somehow managed to get EVERYONE locked out except for him.

Sweet justice was had however, as immediately before we pulled (with everyone else inside of course), we kicked him. That's what you get for wasting everyone's time and effort.

Got Lost city of Amdapor for 50/60 roulette. I personally find the Diabolos fight can always go either really smoothly or really bad. The DRG was silent the whole run, the BLM had a fun little quote of 777777777777777 (because of their dog) and WHM was mostly silent but before Diabolos fight mentioned they hadn't run it much and it had always been bad. I asked if anyone had NOT done it before since I got the new player message and the DRG/BLM both were watching cutscenes at the beginning. No response. I had asked WHM if they minded marking doors at the beginning but since they had apparently always had bad runs I said I'd do it if they helped open the doors.

I know you can just heal through the damage, but I'm the type of person who rather make things less stressful for my healers since I heal more than tank and I know how annoying it can be to heal through completely avoidable damage. Plus - they said they'd always had bad runs so honestly at that point I just wanted to show how easily that fight can go. I'm glad I was able to hopefully give them a good experience!
Also as I was leaving I jokingly suggested what Dun Scaith would be like if you actually had to open matching doors in the Diabolos fight instead of just DPS'ing them squeenix don't take this seriously

I got Temple Of The Fist for my Level 70 Roulette and was tanking with Warrior.

We had a Black Mage, a Dragoon and a White Mage.

None of the dps used any AOE on the mobs and I pulled big - they took aaaaaggess to die and had to use every cooldown I could find to stay alive.

The dps also died regularly because they kept being killed by avoidable stuff. :(

When we got to the bosses I noticed them taking abnormally long to die, so not sure what was going on there.

Was glad to finish that one. :)

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Originally Posted by xkazh

Got Lost city of Amdapor for 50/60 roulette..

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It depends on which healer you have. A scholar makes it easy for everyone, as Succor will take care of the brunt of the dmg. But I prefer if people learned the tactics. While many experienced Tanks will say "nevermind the mechanics, just burn him down", and I don't mind it, many people are still new and or coming into the franchise, then there's the fact that a lot of dps in the game don't even know their rotation. I prefer to tell them the mechanics either way.

Got Snowcloak for 50/60 roulette, and our tank kept limit breaking during large pulls. I don't think he was trolling, which is rather unfortunate, considering if he does this in future dungeons, he'll be severely reprimanded by his party members. I tried to explain the usage of a tank LB, but there was an obvious language barrier, and he didn't seem understand me at all. I feel like there should be a more in-depth limit break explanation/tutorial for sprouts. Almost every time I've seen a limit break used incorrectly, it's by a new player, and that new player usually ends up learning the most efficient way to LB via being yelled at or verbally abused by other party members.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

LB shenanigans

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It would definitely be nice if there was a way to incorporate limit breaks into Hall of the Novice somehow. I doubt they ever will at this point, though.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

tank kept limit breaking.

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I've actually been seeing this happen fairly often over the last week or two. Had a tank who used the LB two times at Amdapor Keep HM, once during trash pulls and once on the final boss (never did a large pull either, and the boss one was during the boss's invincible mechanic) so I asked why they kept using it. The answer? They had the LB as a part of their macro. The main difference I've been seeing with my tanks using it and yours, is that the tanks I'm with aren't necessarily new. Some of them have one or two classes at level 70. Absolutely mind boggling.

Every other tank I see LBing when not needed doesn't answer me though, so I'm not sure what's up with them.

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Originally Posted by Shalan

I've actually been seeing this happen fairly often over the last week or two. Had a tank who used the LB two times at Amdapor Keep HM, once during trash pulls and once on the final boss (never did a large pull either, and the boss one was during the boss's invincible mechanic) so I asked why they kept using it. The answer? They had the LB as a part of their macro. The main difference I've been seeing with my tanks using it and yours, is that the tanks I'm with aren't necessarily new. Some of them have one or two classes at level 70. Absolutely mind boggling.

Every other tank I see LBing when not needed doesn't answer me though, so I'm not sure what's up with them.

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When I tank I never use the LB unless the group asks me to. I prefer to leave it for the DPS or Healer to use as needed.

I never use LB as a tank. When I started leveling DPS it took me a really long time to rediscover the button and put it in a hotbar. XD

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Originally Posted by Shalan

I've actually been seeing this happen fairly often over the last week or two. Had a tank who used the LB two times at Amdapor Keep HM, once during trash pulls and once on the final boss (never did a large pull either, and the boss one was during the boss's invincible mechanic) so I asked why they kept using it. The answer? They had the LB as a part of their macro. The main difference I've been seeing with my tanks using it and yours, is that the tanks I'm with aren't necessarily new. Some of them have one or two classes at level 70. Absolutely mind boggling.

Every other tank I see LBing when not needed doesn't answer me though, so I'm not sure what's up with them.

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I've seen so many bizarre and questionable things in DF lately that a tank using LB wouldn't be that bad if that's all that happened.

I think right now, we might be in the time period in the patch where the majority of players in DF are brand new and/or the ultra-casual kind of people.

Nearly every single dungeon I've ran lately has had a bonus in it, and it's usually the tank. I'm not sure what the draw is for brand new people to pick tank more than anything else. On top of that they are always completely clueless, do baby pulls, never use cooldowns at all, and sort of wander around instead of moving ahead of the group to pull more enemies. Even some of the "experienced" players do strange things. I had a warrior in one expert run who only used Anticipation and no other defensive cooldowns.

Worst of all, all of these new players, regardless of role, seem to be completely mute and disregard anything said in chat. I'm fairly certain most of them are English-speakers. If you try to give any advice or ask them to do something differently, you might as well be talking to a wall.

Speaking of tank shenanigans...if you're a tank in a raid where's there more tanks than you and you see one them pull the boss...try to let the MT do his job as well as not fight for aggro and get your DPS stance on please.

Fighting for aggro with another tank when I pulled the boss first is something I would not have to deal with.

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Originally Posted by AxHell

Speaking of tank shenanigans...if you're a tank in a raid where's there more tanks than you and you see one them pull the boss...try to let the MT do his job as well as not fight for aggro and get your DPS stance on please.

Fighting for aggro with another tank when I pulled the boss first is something I would not have to deal with.

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As a clueless tank, I wasn't aware of the whole provoke>shirk till somebody told me recently, I found myself stealing aggro in my offence stance, P.s can I even use Shirk on an alliance tank in a different party?

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Originally Posted by Yenyen

As a clueless tank, I wasn't aware of the whole provoke>shirk till somebody told me recently, I found myself stealing aggro in my offence stance, P.s can I even use Shirk on an alliance tank in a different party?

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Shirk only works on party members, it doesn't work in Alliance Raids unless there's 2 tanks in a single group within the Alliance.

Closest thing to enmity control aside from DPS utilizing their enmity dumps, would be a Ninja that actually shadewalkers. Which, I mean, probably won't ever happen in a DF group for anything.

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Originally Posted by AxHell

tank aggro in raids

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Take a guess at what happened in my Alliance Raid roulette. Got Void Ark. I was in A with the MT for the whole raid (DRK). PLD in B tried three times to 'voke off him until our DRK got tired and asked him to just put Sword Oath on in Cú Chulainn and it.. devolved into this. C's tank was also a DRK who was sorta mocking said PLD in a joke encouragement kinda way - B's PLD locked himself out at Echidna deliberately and C's Drk said they'd provoke+shirk him but obs shirk doesn't work on other alliances.

Fun quick run though. I got tired of VA quickly, would rather have done DS/WCoM but the chat was honestly just hilarious. Dark blue is DRK MT, light blue is PLD, Green is the other DRK and red is random DPS/healers in the raid.

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https://i.gyazo.com/e9cc38037fa79f05...f5abac184d.png

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Originally Posted by xkazh

Void Ark Drama

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Tank shenanigans aside, I thought I read somewhere at one point that on the JP servers, they always have Alliance B's tank as the MT. Not that it in anyway excuses this particular tank's behavior, but just saying that I had heard of something to that effect before. Whether or not it's true, I can't say.

I had a sad and a happy encounter today.

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First I was doing expert with my main (NIN). We got Hell's Lid. The tank (PLD) was like 20 ilvl below me, but that's fine and still more than enough.
We got to the first boss, and about half a minute into the fight I draw boss aggro. But Shadewalker was still on cooldown, as i used it before on the big trash grp, so the aggro jumped to the tank again for like 2 seconds and then back to me for the next 10 seconds. As Shadwalker went off cooldown, I used it on the tank immediately and he got aggro back. About 15 seconds after shade went off I got aggro again. Only then I noticed that the PLD was in Sword Oath all the time. Maybe he didn't notice that so I wrote it in the chat during the fight. This was the chat:

(Zoe Quintel) shield oath ^^
(PLD) smoke screen
(Zoe Quintel) shade is on CD all the time dude
(Zoe Quintel) i cant smoke myself
(PLD) u sld manage both our agro ur a nin
(PLD) that ur primary job
(Zoe Quintel) ...

At this point I didn't know what to say, and thought to myself "what is the primary job of a Tank again?" and just left. I could have stopped dpsing the boss at all, so the tank could get some more dps in Sword Oath... but that didn't seem right and I was not in the mood to argue with him over this. Tanks do know that Shadewalker has a 2 min CD?

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After that there was a nice experience, even if it started badly ^^. Did Trials Roulette and got Lakshmi normal mode. No one was bonus so it looked like an easy kill. But dps and healer(s) died many times (f.e. healers ran back on the stack mechanic and only stack with two, or dps overlapping the aoes) and we wiped a total of five(!) times! After a short explanation of the basic mechanics we killed her on the 6th try.
Even with the bad start it was still fun, no one was mad at each other in the chat, and the best part was that no one left the party during all these tries! Everyone stayed to the end. That made me happy again ^^

Ran leveling roulette on paladin today. Got Sirensong, and the healer was a scholar who stated right at the beginning that they might suck because they were re-learning the job. But they did great! I took so long typing that out at the end of the run that I didn't get time to commend them before they left. :( So if you are that scholar, I was going to commend you! :D

Ran Stone Vigil for the first time today. Was Tank. Told party after 1st boss that I needed to go afk for a minute, as my sons nose was bleeding. I expected to return and find everyone had run off or I had been kicked from the party. Instead, everyone was waiting and when I said I was back, they asked if he was ok and expressed their sympathy for him. They don't know me or him, yet they were empathetic and we carried on with a successful dungeon.

I'm starting to love this community.

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Originally Posted by Azper

Tank shenanigans aside, I thought I read somewhere at one point that on the JP servers, they always have Alliance B's tank as the MT. Not that it in anyway excuses this particular tank's behavior, but just saying that I had heard of something to that effect before. Whether or not it's true, I can't say.

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Yeah Alliance Bs tank is default the MT on JP servers. Poor form on their part tho, never understood why people have to bicker about who gets to be MT lol

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Originally Posted by xkazh

VA shenans

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I needed that laugh after queuing into Rabby for my Alliance Roulette.

Don't get me wrong, I actually enjoy that place (and DS). They're at least not a snoozefest, but sometimes boring isn't bad. Today boring would've been better. We wiped 3 times on Mateus - mostly because of our tank. He just refused to do much of anything, so when our snake add came up it was murdering everyone. My first mistake on RDM was shedding aggro when I got the add the first time; I should've kept it and just tanked it, our healers were on point and could've kept me alive. But instinct told me to shake the snake off, so I did and 30s we're all dead.

Rinse and repeat. We tried LB3ing the adds twice, but both times it just didn't fire off fast enough on the two adds that were tethered. Honestly, I'm not even sure how much damage they would've sustained since they were tethered but it was worth a shot.

I left after the 3rd wipe, most of us did.

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Originally Posted by Meui

My first mistake on RDM was shedding aggro when I got the add the first time; I should've kept it and just tanked it, our healers were on point and could've kept me alive. But instinct told me to shake the snake off, so I did and 30s we're all dead.

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I had this happen on Mateus once when I was healing it with Tridus. Me on WHM, them on SCH. The first time we weren't prepared for me to be tanking it and I died only to have it rip through some other people. The next time in party chat (after our tank prooved unresponsive) we planned it out.

I popped a Medica II again (even though this time people didn't really need it as adds went out) and then the NIN even Shadewalkered me! Only time I have seen a WHM Shadewalkered, much less to an actual, functional end.

I understand a fair bit more about the game, particilarly about dps, now. The idea that even with Medica II ticking I was able to hold the add the whole time with Presence of Mind Stone IV spam off of what should have been 5 DPS is mildly troubling. I can only assume the first time the NIN Shadewalkered the tank (to no avail) and none of our dps (other than perhaps the NIN) were particularly good.

Either way it makes for a fun story, especially whenever "WHM tank best tank" comes up - at that point I was the best tank our party had thanks to a combination of incompetence, SCH/NIN teamwork and good ol' WHM OPness.

My story today is a Kugane Castle in which we saw 3 sets of adds from each boss. I... did not know this was a thing.

The worst part was that I was DPSing on RDM so I know half of our dps was pretty good. The BLM in our party did a whole lot of nothing, moving around and caasting spells in a weird, nonsensical order. The healee barely dpsed and the tank spent the entire run in Shield Oath.

I looked them up during the first boss in contacts and they were all from Balmung. Not sure if that was coincidence or if they were a premade since Balmung is so big but I thought it was better to shut up than offer advice and get kicked out into another 22 min queue.

Still, longest Kugane Castle of my life by far.

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Originally Posted by xkazh

Take a guess at what happened in my Alliance Raid roulette. Got Void Ark. I was in A with the MT for the whole raid (DRK). PLD in B tried three times to 'voke off him until our DRK got tired and asked him to just put Sword Oath on in Cú Chulainn and it.. devolved into this. C's tank was also a DRK who was sorta mocking said PLD in a joke encouragement kinda way - B's PLD locked himself out at Echidna deliberately and C's Drk said they'd provoke+shirk him but obs shirk doesn't work on other alliances.

Fun quick run though. I got tired of VA quickly, would rather have done DS/WCoM but the chat was honestly just hilarious. Dark blue is DRK MT, light blue is PLD, Green is the other DRK and red is random DPS/healers in the raid.

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https://i.gyazo.com/e9cc38037fa79f05...f5abac184d.png

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This kind of chat is why I love 24-man so much. With that many players, you get SO many different playstyles, skill levels, douchebaggery. It's lovely!

What I've learned from Alliance Roulette is the main tank is one who has agro, lol. But I just love when two tanks both say, "I'm the main tank" Everytime I see it, I just immediately envision two cornfeed, meatheads standing up, pointing their thumb at themselves with a cheeseburger grin and saying, "I'm the main tank" in unison. ... and then both die, and the third tank just gets things done!

leveling MCH in potd,got bored of potd que for sohm al wait 20-30 minutes get in dungeon at first boss got told to pull out my turret push bishop by accident ,get kicked

I have a joke : A PLD, a WHM, a DRG and a BLM (me) walk into a bar.

The DRG doesn't die mind you but the PLD doesn't have shield oath on, uses every CD he has before each pulls when he can, never talks and runs around like a headless chicken.

The WHM cries in despair, the DRG tries to do his best, the BLM plays dead.

The end.

Speaking of alliance roulette, I often forget that some of the best ones are filled with the procrastinators trying to get their daily done before the reset. Red eye alliance roulette!

Had a nice one in Fun Scaith last night. I always have 'in progress' checked when I queue, and this one trusted me into an instance where several players from all three alliances have raged quit. Several players from my party tell me about the situation, and I asked one simple question? "Were mechanics explained?"...

no
nope...
not even in the slightest
no siree!

...were my immediate responses.

So I explained all of Doom Gazes nasty insta-kill mechanics, and the fight was smooth as silk after that. No one even died. I proceeded to explain the other bosses as well. There was another wipe on Diabolos Hollow that had me reiterate some of his mechanics, but I simply have to reflect on how utterly late it was at this point in the night.

Everyone was really happy that we weeded out all the toxic players, and everyone was having a really good time learning and doing the fights. I got a lot of thank yous and a full round of comms from my party, and all it takes is just taking a minute to explain mechanics.

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Originally Posted by cynical_baby

At this point I didn't know what to say, and thought to myself "what is the primary job of a Tank again?" and just left. I could have stopped dpsing the boss at all, so the tank could get some more dps in Sword Oath... but that didn't seem right and I was not in the mood to argue with him over this. Tanks do know that Shadewalker has a 2 min CD?

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Him posturing up like that is inexcusable, but don’t forget you also have diversion :).

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

I looked them up during the first boss in contacts and they were all from Balmung.

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Last I checked, you weren't able to use the Contacts menu inside an instance. You get the currently unavailable error message. Was this a very recent change? Like within the last week? Up until now, I've only ever been able to look up a completely silent party member's server after leaving the instance and not during it. I suppose I could search the name on the Lodestone and make an educated guess based on the results that show up, but who has time for that in the middle of a run?

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

Not sure if that was coincidence or if they were a premade since Balmung is so big

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This made me giggle, and also have a bit of genuine confusion. Is Zalera's population or social interaction so small that 3 people forming a pre-made seems like something that would only be likely to come from a larger server like Balmung? I can't imagine a server having so small a population that forming 3-man pre-mades for dungeon runs is uncommon. I tend to run roulettes solo more often than with friends, but only because when I ask my FC most people have either done them already or are in the middle of other things. I always ask first though, and even pimp out fast healer queues to them, so it's definitely not uncommon that I'll go in with at least one other friend.

The other week I did a roulette Guildheist as tank and got the poison rose one (don't know the name). I clearly stated to all that this was my first time and still new to tanking despite Guildheists being rinsed within 5 minutes; I still wanted to be sure everyone knew. Anyway, no mention of tips or mechanics offered up to me. So, what do you do when there's a massive cloud of poison? You move out of it. I spent the next 10 minutes running around like a headless chicken trying to stay out of the poison whilst trying to pick up the adds. It was messy to say the least, how was I to know I'm just meant to stand in the clouds and not move?! No one offered up pointers.

So we do it anyway, no one died, all good. I say sorry for the mess and again it was my first time, and asked for tips. A mentor, of all people, says something in German?/another language but with the word tank in it, so obviously this is aimed at me, despite my communication being in very plain English. So I ask again to clarify and offer tips/feedback. I get "was w/c". So basically my tanking "was crap". before I could reply he was gone, and unfortunately from another server so couldn't /tell him to elaborate or offer something slightly more constructive or ask why he is even a mentor.

I was very much appalled at the behaviour of this particular mentor and wish I had kept a name. It's frustrating when you're trying to learn the role! Anyway, hasn't put me off as I know there's a minority that just can't help themselves but be rude.

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Originally Posted by Mikazuki

I get "was w/c". So basically my tanking "was crap". before I could reply he was gone, and unfortunately from another server so couldn't /tell him to elaborate or offer something slightly more constructive or ask why he is even a mentor.

I was very much appalled at the behaviour of this particular mentor and wish I had kept a name. It's frustrating when you're trying to learn the role! Anyway, hasn't put me off as I know there's a minority that just can't help themselves but be rude.

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Are you sure that's what that meant, and not something else entirely? You said they didn't clarify...I looked it up myself, but apparently, w/c means water closet, which is a weird slang that's I've never heard of (but apparently is a thing) that means bathroom. As in, they were in the bathroom, so they couldn't really answer your question. I dunno...I'd be wary about assuming things in different languages.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Are you sure that's what that meant, and not something else entirely? You said they didn't clarify...I looked it up myself, but apparently, w/c means water closet, which is a weird slang that's I've never heard of (but apparently is a thing) that means bathroom. As in, they were in the bathroom, so they couldn't really answer your question. I dunno...I'd be wary about assuming things in different languages.

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Yes that was my thought process that it means toilet/bathroom. But it was in conversation and there was no break between me asking to know what he said in English. That's what led me to think it was an insult to answer "how was my tanking". I can completely see where you are coming from though and may need to take it as a miscommunication due to language.

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This made me giggle, and also have a bit of genuine confusion. Is Zalera's population or social interaction so small that 3 people forming a pre-made seems like something that would only be likely to come from a larger server like Balmung?

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You might be reading Moro backwards here. I dont think she's saying "Zalera is so small that 3 people couldnt group together". I read it more as "Balmung has a large population, so i dont know if these 3 came together or if its just a coincidence that theyre from the same place".

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Originally Posted by Mikazuki

Yes that was my thought process that it means toilet/bathroom. But it was in conversation and there was no break between me asking to know what he said in English. That's what led me to think it was an insult to answer "how was my tanking". I can completely see where you are coming from though and may need to take it as a miscommunication due to language.

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No worries...sometimes that happens. Though that mentor could've at least stayed to help you out some, or at least said something of value. They obviously understood enough to say that in english.

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Originally Posted by Mikazuki

The other week I did a roulette Guildheist as tank and got the poison rose one (don't know the name). I clearly stated to all that this was my first time and still new to tanking despite Guildheists being rinsed within 5 minutes; I still wanted to be sure everyone knew. Anyway, no mention of tips or mechanics offered up to me. So, what do you do when there's a massive cloud of poison? You move out of it. I spent the next 10 minutes running around like a headless chicken trying to stay out of the poison whilst trying to pick up the adds. It was messy to say the least, how was I to know I'm just meant to stand in the clouds and not move?! No one offered up pointers.

So we do it anyway, no one died, all good. I say sorry for the mess and again it was my first time, and asked for tips. A mentor, of all people, says something in German?/another language but with the word tank in it, so obviously this is aimed at me, despite my communication being in very plain English. So I ask again to clarify and offer tips/feedback. I get "was w/c". So basically my tanking "was crap". before I could reply he was gone, and unfortunately from another server so couldn't /tell him to elaborate or offer something slightly more constructive or ask why he is even a mentor.

I was very much appalled at the behaviour of this particular mentor and wish I had kept a name. It's frustrating when you're trying to learn the role! Anyway, hasn't put me off as I know there's a minority that just can't help themselves but be rude.

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Some people expect new players to know everything right off the bat, even when the new player states they are new(if you hadn't, that might have been a different story). All I can say, is that every time I've done that guildhest the tank always moves the boss just outside the poison circle, and everyone else just deals with the adds. Then again, everyone can do it differently, so that mentor had no reason to say that really.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Are you sure that's what that meant, and not something else entirely? You said they didn't clarify...I looked it up myself, but apparently, w/c means water closet, which is a weird slang that's I've never heard of (but apparently is a thing) that means bathroom. As in, they were in the bathroom, so they couldn't really answer your question. I dunno...I'd be wary about assuming things in different languages.

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Most times it means "wrong chat", which would indicate Mikazuki being more than likely correct in the assumption that the mentor was talking trash about them in their LS/FC chat. I know I've seen dozens of times where FC members are talking bad about a random they got in a mostly pre-made party.

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Originally Posted by Azper

Tank shenanigans aside, I thought I read somewhere at one point that on the JP servers, they always have Alliance B's tank as the MT. Not that it in anyway excuses this particular tank's behavior, but just saying that I had heard of something to that effect before. Whether or not it's true, I can't say.

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As someone who plays on the JP servers, I can confirm that Alliance B tank is MT, unless that tank is one of two warriors with the other tank being PLD, then in that case PLD defaults to MT, but even then, this is rare, Alliance B tank has to just bite the bullet most of the time

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this is more like a pet peeve to me.
I've experienced it before, I've made the same mistake myself (but realized it at least halfway before the next trash mob), but not equipping a sect as AST until the very end of Snowcloak is one feat...for the rest of the party.
asked the healer at least twice if sect is not available and no reply. even used the translate function just in case. radio silence.
I was MCH, other dps was BRD, and AST decided to give all the cards including Balance to DRK.
no kicking involved because given healer was a sprout, and we were managing it so whatever. it's just annoying.

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@thread topic
this is more like a pet peeve to me.
I've experienced it before, I've made the same mistake myself (but realized it at least halfway before the next trash mob), but not equipping a sect as AST until the very end of Snowcloak is one feat...for the rest of the party.
asked the healer at least twice if sect is not available and no reply. even used the translate function just in case. radio silence.
I was MCH, other dps was BRD, and AST decided to give all the cards including Balance to DRK.
no kicking involved because given healer was a sprout, and we were managing it so whatever. it's just annoying.

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If I were to guess they might have been focus targeting the tank the whole run. And healed the others with AoE heals only. Unless they did single target heal the dps then I have no idea. XD

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Originally Posted by Lynde

If I were to guess they might have been focus targeting the tank the whole run. And healed the others with AoE heals only. Unless they did single target heal the dps then I have no idea. XD

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looking up the battle texts, all I see is benefic and benefic II.

I'd say the rest of the party knows the dungeon pretty well so that helped. but we nearly did wipe at that trash pack after 1st boss and it was because the DRK didn't get healed enough, so it was a cascade.
AST must be learning, hence I just see it as a pet peeve.

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Originally Posted by duvvvv

looking up the battle texts, all I see is benefic and benefic II.

I'd say the rest of the party knows the dungeon pretty well so that helped. but we nearly did wipe at that trash pack after 1st boss and it was because the DRK didn't get healed enough, so it was a cascade.
AST must be learning, hence I just see it as a pet peeve.

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Personally, I have a few issues with AST. I do like the class but because I have issues with multi-tasking most times, I panic a lot when playing it. Not only do you have to watch everyone's HP but you need to micromanage your cards at the same time, and that can get chaotic sometimes. I do try my best to get the cards out to the right people but sometimes it's really hard for me. And my main healer is SCH right now! (Lol fairy micromanaging)

So all you ASTs out there that can pull this off super smoothly, you have my respect. XD

A chatlog summarises it just fine.

https://i.imgur.com/lEPAmcS.png

Could have kicked the guy out but it might take longer to get a new tank + clear than it takes to clear even like this. They did turn Shield Oath on after it was mentioned but didn't react to anything else.

Welp, at least the guy is safe from brain-eating zombies...i mean, he's got nothing they would be interested in