Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

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Originally Posted by HolyKelistae

My lord! You, my good healer, must have the patience of a saint and beyond to even stick around until the end! Kudos to both you and that poor bard!

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Actually, in my post, I DID mention I was about to rage quit that run. Would have been my first too. :P

Despite the trolling, they ended up killing Titan fairly fast, and I guess you could say I leeched credit off the trolls. (Along with the BRD) Doesn't excuse their behavior though, and I most certainly hope not to run into them again.

About time I post my healing horror story. So I was in AV for my BRD relic drop runs as a SCH that other day, I was partied with a fresh lv50 NIN (level 50 with ilvl70ish gears), an unsynced level48 BLM annnddd a T13 geared tank (Who happened to be there for zodiac drops too)

Initially things were fine, of course I didn't mind the BLM died a couple times out of the tank's speedy pulls (Yeah damn I had to John F-ing Madden Physick on the tank for this). We wiped somewhere around before Coincounter once, I had no idea how since usually a synced PLD would had been fine with the average speedpulls.

During coincounter fight, we wiped once because I tried to get closer to PLD because he was out of range but boss happened to stop next to me and ponze swing while I was spamming physick on the tank's half-life body. I didn't managed to get out so I got my arse ponzed by him. Second time, we were in the verge of wipe and the NIN returned to the entrace leaving the 3 of us in the fight. BLM died twice to attacks because of low HP but my heals managed to turn the table around with my timely heals and we downed Coincounter. The BLM commended my heals and the tank said this was harder than T13 (lol).

Then yes again we wiped to the batch of mobs just right after that boss because tank decided it was a good idea to pull every single moving twitching thing in there and once again I had to JFM Physick him but of course I couldn't because the tank lost aggro and I got hit a few times, so was the NIN and I had to succor everyone but that didn't help because tank died immediately because I had to skip a turn of Physick to heal everyone else.

Between the 2 DPS, one initiated Vote Dismiss the tank out of the reason of Harassing but I voted no because I dealt with speedrun fails several times before but I wish I did that time because again we wiped at the last part of the map (where walls glowed yellow again near the last morbol wall) because tank decided that hatching the morbol seeds and tank the living twitchy thing in it along with the already hatched ones were the best idea ever. Then the DPS had to AFK for a bit and the tank started talking to me about relic stuff, I told him he neither need to be in his relic job nor use his relic to get the drop so he pulled his Dreadwyrm Blade out (I leave this part for you to figure out why you need to lol or facepalm here. If you figured it out, please do let me know.)

Then at the last four diremite trash mob before the big boss, we wiped (again) because he had to pulled all four into the boss area (Just so we can skip it by locking them out) and for some reason the tank took way too much damage on all 4 of them, never before I had to stop DPS to JFM Physick the tank on this part. Then I finally noticed among all the CD he popped on the party list he don't have Shield Oath on all this while (*facepalm intensified). I know this could be partially my problem because I never double checked everyone because I always do but I still think this was his issue. I told him twice (yes, twice) to put on Shield Oath because he didn't saw my first one. He finally turned on Shield Oath before the last boss.
Now here comes the best part, we -actually- wiped for several times. I can understand this if the tank was new but welp, here goes:

> First time - Tank got bad breath several times I had to throw yet another JFM Physick to keep his low HP up and I couldn't take my time to eat my portion of the fruit. Tank then died to stacked burr anyway and boss went to oneshot me before having ninja shortcakes for dessert next.
> Second time - Tank thought it was a brilliant idea to ignore Burr mechanic and kept 9 stack most of the time, he got one shot by the next burr AOE. Guess the next thing to happen.
> Third time - Tank turned the boss direction at me while I'm struggling to heal everyone (BLM died to stacked burrs) and I got one shot by bad breath and vine probe combo.

The NIN ragequited, I would ragequit too but I've wasted enough time so I didn't but I wish I did. A foulmouthed synced BLM came later.

> Fourth time - I got combo killed by vine probe (again with the positioning) and then killed by burr with 4th stack. I had no problem surviving with 5 stacks on a full HP but because of that vine probe I can't.
> Fifth time - With only 3 minutes left on the timer, the synced BLM started to hurl insults that none of our mothers gave a damn about when the tank made the same mistake over and over. Unsynced BLM died to stacked burr debuff again so we didn't have enough DPS to last minute kill it.

Guess what? We were then slapped with a huge "DUTY FAILED" message across our screen, I wanted to sarcastically autotranslate "Good Job" on the tank but was quickly transitioned back to my housing area. I had to bard it out to my FC mates about this horrifying 90 minutes of Aurum Fale and everyone consoled me. Just so happened that I hit level 50 on WAR so I might as well tank this myself and finally got my relic drop after several times, that would be the last time I visit that place. Ever. (and I never even wiped at all throughout my runs as tank for all attempts like this guy did)

I have a few stories I've been keeping for a while.

I was silently declared MT in WoD on my i107 WAR because the other tanks stood and glared at the trash mobs and bosses, I don't mind MT but my healers had some kind of dislike towards healing me. During heatwave on the hydra I stop attacking and the healers stop healing during this...after this...after I die...after hydra runs rampant through the raid...after another raid group raises me...you get the idea. Cloud would have murdered me if the other raid healers hadn't been healing me.

Doing a ramuh pony farm, a nin marked no. 3 runs right past me and the other healer with his thunderstorm to kill an add while we both have chaos, we wipe, he says "wtf grandma healers heal better' we point out his blatant stupidity and he tells me to stop crying because I was making his ears bleed, at this point I told them to find another healer, didn't see them in PF again so I assume the party dissolved after my leave.

I chain rezzed 5 healers + some dps and kept MT alive as whm in WoD today. And ppl wasted all my efforts at 2% of 1st boss.
There were alot of WTF moments after. But this one I took very personal.

LotA last night.. pretty sure alliance B was half trolls. I was in A and everyone knew what to do, so healing was minimal.. I wasn't familiar enough to feel okay DPSing, and was quite tired, so I maaay have been drifting in and out of sleep during fights (I am terrible at times :(). We had to wait several minutes for B to finish off their Atomos, but I had just assumed their DPS was undergeared or something. Apparently during Thanatos, our pot was the only one that survived (with full health! it never was in danger), but we cleared it. King Behemoth though..

We wiped the first time when all the meteors were killed off. Killing adds was emphasized in party chat, then we went in for the second try. Partway through, as I was standing there fighting not falling completely asleep, I saw someone say in alliance "why isn't anyone healing the tanks? are the healers lazy?" My party was all at 100%, so I checked my alliance windows (which I put at 60% - obviously too small to be useful) and see both tanks in B are dead, as well as 2 dps. Healers in B were 100% health. Someone replied they were too busy healing to help.. so I ran out, got the two tanks up, then managed to get one of B's DPS up while focusing my heals on B's tanks. We cleared it that time.

Final boss, we wiped to the first aoe. People commented about B trolling, and one of the DPS in B said he was doing his best, but the claw add was still up when the aoe hit. Second run, I was having to focus my healing on B's tanks again.. first aoe, one of B's somethings ran into our platform with about 25% HP (shrugged and healed him), then second aoe, again he came running to our platform and died because he didn't make it in time (he came from the opposite end.. ran past his own platform..). A healer and DPS died during the boss, and didn't accept raises.

At the end of the run, there was a bit of an argument in alliance chat about whether B was trolling. One person said he wasn't, but he mained scholar and was needing bard drops (maybe he was a DPS then? I didn't look). I felt bad for anyone actually trying in that group.. I was the last non-B to leave, and they still had 6 in, so I bet they were letting the loot time out to waste even more time..

So...

I don't know if bots are doing dungeon play or what but Myself and one other player (a DPS with a lot of classes leveled to some point) were in "The Stone Vigil" a few minutes ago. The Tank and one other player were acting really weird. The Tank seemed absolutely lost, and kept pulling mobs and jumping all over the place into the traps. The other DPS, a Black mage, went to and stood on every single chest. That's a red flag. Also the BLM got every drop because I assume everyone passed on everything.

So normally this dungeon can be finished in less than 30 minutes with good players. This time? took nearly an hour just to get to the final boss. My first clue that something was wrong as the party wipes at the first trap. The party wipes just around the corner from the boss room too right after the BLM uses the limit break for no reason. During the final boss, BLM holds up the entire party waiting for the cutscene and then dies 3 times by standing in the blue areas. He also stood in the wind during the second boss.

So after this dungeon I go look up the characters on the Lodestone, as I'm absolutely sure this has to be a bot, or an idiot (Keep in mind the level sync is 43):
The character name is on Marlboro:
Archer level 15, BLM level 32, alchemy 3, botantist 1
BLM - is wearing level 5 head gear, level 17 body gear, 29 gauntlet, level 40 belt, 32 legs, 26 footwear, and low level dungeon trash accessories. Level 33 weapon.

Geez no wonder the DPS was so weak.

So then I look up the Tank, also on Malboro:
All appropriate level gear except for two trash accessories. Has the Fat Chocobo, so that means it's someone who paid for a collectors edition. So this guy is probably just an idiot. I speculate that maybe it was someone playing both characters, because both characters were walking into walls as well and jumping around randomly.

Long story short, keep an eye out for players that stand on the chest, even when opened.

There are bots that do dungeons though I've not seen a huge amount of them most dungeons don't drop much worth selling and bots can be kicked so it's not so reliable. See people playing on two accounts at once though in a bunch of things. Always remember one in like ST or something the two accounts they were using kept getting DC'd at the same time probably because they kept crashing the clients and they were constantly denying they were doing it.

I wasn't healing this instance but good lord this poor healer for Toto-Rak. I'm going in for Bard Atma, the tank pulls, I rip aggro right off the bat, so I'm saying to myself "Hmm better take of some gear". So after a while I'm near naked....then I realized the tank was using the mp combo and rarely flashed at all ._.. They then say in say "Do it right guys!!, Let me go first" I thought they were trolling...level 26 and not one use of rage of halone or even the 1,2, combo the entire time. So I eventually say the hell with it and me and the DRG tanked the entire dungeon with me tanking the boss and adds at the end. The healer had to panic heal a couple of times.

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Originally Posted by Ignnis

Doing a ramuh pony farm, a nin marked no. 3 runs right past me and the other healer with his thunderstorm to kill an add while we both have chaos, we wipe, he says "wtf grandma healers heal better' we point out his blatant stupidity and he tells me to stop crying because I was making his ears bleed, at this point I told them to find another healer, didn't see them in PF again so I assume the party dissolved after my leave.

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Wow sounds like somebody very young or incredibly stupid. Sometimes get people like that just "lalala i do what i want yolo" who just expect everyone else to do the work while they run around mad dogging on things ignoring all mechanics.

I've had the worst run I've ever ha in WoD yesterday, worse than the first day where everyone was new.

It's hard to even explain what was happening because people just kept dying. I must have ressed at least 20 times at Angra Manyu + a heal lb3 at 5% and we still wiped.

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Originally Posted by Moqi

I've had the worst run I've ever ha in WoD yesterday, worse than the first day where everyone was new.

It's hard to even explain what was happening because people just kept dying. I must have ressed at least 20 times at Angra Manyu + a heal lb3 at 5% and we still wiped.

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If not for the Shadowlurkers having the potential to cause alliance wipes at CoD when ignored, I'd consider Angra Mainyu the most grueling boss for bad runs. People usually die repeatedly, and the boss takes forever to kill due to players who don't otherwise deal with mechanics still learning how to DPS while trying to pay attention to everything else.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

If not for the Shadowlurkers having the potential to cause alliance wipes at CoD when ignored, I'd consider Angra Mainyu the most grueling boss for bad runs. People usually die repeatedly, and the boss takes forever to kill due to players who don't otherwise deal with mechanics still learning how to DPS while trying to pay attention to everything else.

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My raise macro is:
"Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you stay down! (Raise) <target> <SE.1>"

So in wod it is spammed all over chat, continually on every single boss because apparently IQ decreases with some peoples ilvl. Angra Mainyu is not that hard guys :v juggle colous and turn for mortal gaze, I DONT EVEN-!

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Originally Posted by Ignnis

My raise macro is:
"Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you stay down! (Raise) <target> <SE.1>"

So in wod it is spammed all over chat, continually on every single boss because apparently IQ decreases with some peoples ilvl. Angra Mainyu is not that hard guys :v juggle colous and turn for mortal gaze, I DONT EVEN-!

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Last night, all three tanks ate a doom. Instant "WTF???"

My most frustrating instance had to be this weekend. I'm working on my third relic (BLM) and currently on book 4. Well, I had Copperbell HM as one of my book dungeons. I sit in queue for close to a half hour. We get in the instance, everything is going ok at first. Then we get to the last boss. It is mentioned that this is a book dungeon and I need to be sure to be alive for the boss to get credit. It comes out that the NIN is also on her book (so, both DPS were doing it for their book and needed credit). The WHM doesn't heal us at all for the last boss, only heals the tank. We both die. I state again, "please raise, we need to be alive for credit." Well, the WHM raises me, doesn't heal me at all after that. The boss immediately does his AOE and I die again since I had almost no health after being raised. The NIN never gets raised. They kill the boss, leaving both DPS dead on the ground, and neither of us get credit for the dungeon. I was absolutely more livid than I have ever been in this game in the last year.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

My most frustrating instance had to be this weekend. I'm working on my third relic (BLM) and currently on book 4. Well, I had Copperbell HM as one of my book dungeons. I sit in queue for close to a half hour. We get in the instance, everything is going ok at first. Then we get to the last boss. It is mentioned that this is a book dungeon and I need to be sure to be alive for the boss to get credit. It comes out that the NIN is also on her book (so, both DPS were doing it for their book and needed credit). The WHM doesn't heal us at all for the last boss, only heals the tank. We both die. I state again, "please raise, we need to be alive for credit." Well, the WHM raises me, doesn't heal me at all after that. The boss immediately does his AOE and I die again since I had almost no health after being raised. The NIN never gets raised. They kill the boss, leaving both DPS dead on the ground, and neither of us get credit for the dungeon. I was absolutely more livid than I have ever been in this game in the last year.

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wow, that is pretty crappy >.>;

Just so you know, I believe as long as you're alive in the dungeon (and it doesn't matter where) you'll get the kill credit. So if push comes to shove, just release and hope you res before it dies and see if you get credit for it.

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

wow, that is pretty crappy >.>;

Just so you know, I believe as long as you're alive in the dungeon (and it doesn't matter where) you'll get the kill credit. So if push comes to shove, just release and hope you res before it dies and see if you get credit for it.

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So, are you saying it's best then to return to the beginning of the dungeon?

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

So, are you saying it's best then to return to the beginning of the dungeon?

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If the people are being jerks about keeping you alive, yes. Supposedly as long as you're alive anywhere in the dungeon, you will get credit for your Atma (though I have personally never had the opportunity to test / prove this, this is only hearsay from other sources)

I guess I'll have to try that, if in the future, I get another horrible healer. It seems lately, there is an increasing number of awful healers in the game.

Running WoD last night to get my drop for the week, the tank ignored Mortal Gaze and died to Doom more than once. I don't say anything, just raise. But a dps calls the tank out and the tank freely admits that they don't pay attention to Angra Mainyu's attacks. Ok. So next boss, the tank decides to MT and eats all of the five headed dragon attacks, including the one that causes a healing debuff where my cures only hit for 300 hp. Benediction gets used and the tank still drops. The whole raid wipes and tank is like "what happened to my healers? " Second try: same issue, but this time I'm prepared for the tank to eat everything and I spam heals. Tank dies anyway but it's close to the end so it doesn't wipe the raid. Tank was like "what happened that time?" I tell tank he had healing debuff and the other healer says stay out of aoes next time.

T l d r : if you choose to ignore mechanics, don't yell at the healers when you die.

WOD is more mechanic intensive than CT or ST, so it's natural to see people try to face roll and get punished for it. Sadly, since I am a healer, I get punished for my party's incompetence.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

My most frustrating instance had to be this weekend. I'm working on my third relic (BLM) and currently on book 4. Well, I had Copperbell HM as one of my book dungeons. I sit in queue for close to a half hour. We get in the instance, everything is going ok at first. Then we get to the last boss. It is mentioned that this is a book dungeon and I need to be sure to be alive for the boss to get credit. It comes out that the NIN is also on her book (so, both DPS were doing it for their book and needed credit). The WHM doesn't heal us at all for the last boss, only heals the tank. We both die. I state again, "please raise, we need to be alive for credit." Well, the WHM raises me, doesn't heal me at all after that. The boss immediately does his AOE and I die again since I had almost no health after being raised. The NIN never gets raised. They kill the boss, leaving both DPS dead on the ground, and neither of us get credit for the dungeon. I was absolutely more livid than I have ever been in this game in the last year.

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Ouch. That's painful. This is actually why I wish when working on the animus books, it shouldn't matter if you're alive or not at the end. Just so long as you're holding the right weapon that your animus book demands, you should get credit anyway. But I don't see SE changing that, so I'd take the other poster's suggestion about releasing and rezzing should you get a crappy healer again.

That said, while I never did consider it much of a horror story, reading that reminded me of a run in the Lost City. Everything went smooth (for the most part) in that place until we got to the final boss. Just earlier in the dungeon, I had checked the equipment of all the party members. Two of them had Atma weapons. (Both DPS) Things went downhill due to the impatience of the Tank. Before anyone even had a chance to ask the question of "Burn or doors?", Tank immediately charged. The questions pops up from the SMN after the Tank had already charged. As a result, my hotbar wasn't set up to handle doors at the moment, so I mentioned in chat that I'm just going to have to power heal through it. (Like all burn rushers do against that boss now)

I knew trouble was around the corner when I noticed the DPS output wasn't fast enough. Diabolos gets off his signature attack twice, causing all of us to have heavy stacks of defense debuff. I have to waste 2 Lustrates on the Tank to ensure the Tank survives, and then I aim a Lustrate at the SMN. While Lustrates come out quicker than Benediction, there's still that chance of being screwed over by that 0.1 second difference. I see the Lustrate go off on the SMN, only for the SMN to fall over anyway from another hit by Diabolos. I quick shift to helping my fairy heal the NIN so that the NIN survives too, quick heal myself, and then start swiftcast rezzing the SMN. The moment I bring my thumb down on the button, I see my rez macro go off, but the spell doesn't go through because the boss JUST got killed the moment I did that, causing the SMN to not get a rez.

Said SMN was understandably pissed off and yelled at everyone. Only part that nagged me was that the SMN also specifically decided to call me out too. While I feel I could have been a bit quicker on the responses of the crap that was happening so fast, I feel like most of the blame should have gone to the Tank for being so impatient and not even waiting to see if we were going to be doing doors or a burn rush. BTW, said Tank immediately left the moment the boss was killed. No time for treasure nor commends.

So I'll repeat: SE should change it so that it doesn't matter if we're dead at the end of the dungeon to get credit. Only that we should be holding the weapon that the animus book demands. But again, I don't see that happening.

While not so much a healer Horror story I'm going to mention this as a "remember what your Macro really does"

In two back-to-back Raids, The tank dropped out and was immediately replaced, thus results in the Tank going from the "second position" to the "last position"

My swiftcast-ressurrect macro attempts to rez everyone in order of the party list. So since the Tank was at the end, the tank kept complaining "Why is nobody healing me?" Well he certainly was being healed, but I suspect he succumbed to the problem of "healer defaults to healing party position #2"

He was being healed (I only use two macros, one to fire off everything needed to maximize Media II, and one to emergency-swiftrez as I stated above), by both healers, but because he was at the bottom of the party list, he was probably getting missed for single-target heals because he kept running out of range (when a healing target leaves range, the cast either cancels (if the target was lit up) or heals the healer (if the target was selected and it immediately rejected before the cast took place.)

So anytime a tank drops out and is replaced, the tank will -always- get less attention. Remember you can re-arrange the party list.
http://i.imgur.com/Lo80GKV.png
Source: http://forum.xivnation.com/index.php...-members.2186/

...well, the idea of your macro is a little weird to me, but as an aside - you can also type /psort to out the party list back to your default.

Started healing not too long ago.
Never thought I'd have my own horror story this early
I we were about to start a low level dungeon. I was the only mage type having a ninja and Lancer for dps. But I noted someone wearing robes. To my horror it was a level 34 marauder. He did not even unlock warrior yet. What's worse he was wearing all light armor.
Id understand if he was willing to learn. But he did not even had a single word during the run. We somehow survived two bosses. We had a loot for tank classes. I was pleading him to get it and use it. But to my horror he passes the item.
Obviously he was too squishy the whole time. The group died when we had multiple mobs. Needless to say we abandoned the dungeon

MT on cloud of darkness complains that there are 5 WHMs in the raid and he doesn't have a single regen in alliance chat. One WHM says that he never uses regen, it's a useless skill and he doesn't have it on hotbar. I cry everytime...

my nightmare had to have been when I was leveling my WHM.. This was in Brayflox.

I join Brayflox midway through.. on first boss. Time limit was already at 55 minutes.. so the group took 35 minutes just to get to first boss.

The DPS tell me the healer left because he didn't wanna deal with the tank.
So I go okay.. well the tank may be noob, but we should still be able to do this right?

Every fight is a challenge, tank can't move AND attack at the same time.. tank can't hold aggro, dragoon tanks most of the fights..

Takes us another 20 minutes to get to the final boss. Ahh the final boss.

We explain to the tank he has to move the dragon around.
1st fight, nope.. nothing. just sits in pool all day. I run out of mana, we wipe.
2nd fight, nope.. nothing, we wipe again.
Tank starts complaining about my healing "Why didn't you heal me more?" I told him I only have so much mana, I can't heal forever if the boss isn't dying.
3rd fight, tank starts to move the dragon around.. except he can't attack while on the move. so loses aggro.. boss bounces around everywhere.. wipe
4th fight, tank moves the dragon, halfway through loses aggro, boss comes back to dps, tank goes back to boss.. rinse and repeat.. wipe

By this time we're frustrated but we still try to explain the mechanics to the tank.. He says if you wanna kick me go ahead, I don't think I can do this..
So with 5 minutes to spare, we had to kick him and get a new tank in just to finish the dungeon.

I really hope he can now cast skills while on the move..

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Originally Posted by Ignnis

MT on cloud of darkness complains that there are 5 WHMs in the raid and he doesn't have a single regen in alliance chat. One WHM says that he never uses regen, it's a useless skill and he doesn't have it on hotbar. I cry everytime...

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A person like that really should just uninstall the game or something since they clearly have no interest in learning how to play. WHM's in raids annoy me heavily in general since i main one it's more irritating. Keeping the MT up is not difficult and you're not even doing anything half the time so you might as well throw a regen on the MT especially on the final boss. If there are not the same number of regen on the MT as WHM's in the raid then you know there are some bad/lazy Healers or one of the groups is that bad that the Heals need to babysit them but it's usually just the first one.

I really hate when they say "That's the job of the Healers in their own party" no it's YOUR job. If the MT dies because of lack of Healing the blame is on every Healer in that raid. If the party gets rekt by the heatwave debuff on second boss that's the fault of the WHM for not using stoneskin to avoid it. Missed meteors? 6 Healers in the raid and you all better be in one. Healers on the meteor drops are not the only thing that bugs me to be fair i want to punch the DPS when the clouds spawn and they should be killing them but 4 of them try to pile in one meteor instead. The meteors only spawn like 3 at a time on that phase the Healers have absolutely nothing else to do during the phase since the boss does nothing until it ends and the clouds do no damage.

On Cerberus if the chains fail it's probably a Healers fault. If a Healer gets aggro on the adds and dies that's your fault too. I don't care if the Tank failed to peel the adds you got aggro so you are doing it wrong. Hold any regen on Tanks until all adds have spawned and been taunted.

Long story short for Healers in WoD get good XD.

I always cast adlo on mt especially during that part, regardless of whether or not it's a tank from my party ._.. The amount of excuses healers give for not giving it their all. >.<

Oddly Wod's first boss is probably the hardest of the raid, as a healer. When you have a competent party, great, you could even solo-heal (just like the entire raid, per se). If you don't and have dps getting killed by doom or not switching colors on the ground, can become quite a nightmare.
About helping other teams, even though I agree, I can tell it's not easy for everyone to do. I, for instance, am playing on PS3 and browsing through the players in other team is absolutely terrible. You can't mouseover. You have to find THAT guy in particular who needs a raise or a cure, by using right/left arrows. Trust me, when you have 18 players around you, it's not that easy. When I try to target an another party's tank, by the time I actually target him, he would usually be dead, if none of his own healers are alive, that is.

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Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie

If the party gets rekt by the heatwave debuff on second boss that's the fault of the WHM for not using stoneskin to avoid it.

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Not really. It's a 5 second mechanic where everyone is supposed to stand still. Would it be the WHM's fault if they had died to Blighted pre-nerf in t6? No. Of course not. It's the job of everyone in the party to avoid the mechanic. And spending 2,128 MP to avoid a 5 second move is kind of irrational, not to mention that time could be spent DPSing or healing the MT or something. A Medica II (or 2 if you have 2 WHMS) and a SCH's succor is more than enough to mitigate it.

Speaking of WoD, I remember having to Ressurect close to 30 times because people kept dying to the different Angra Mainyu mechanics. It was kind of hilarious, though the horrifying part was being a Scholar and having to ask for Ballads.

Ok so, I was at 29 TT cards and wanted ANY card, so I decided to run Sastasha normal hoping I'd get the Sahagin card. So I get in there and the tank doesn't move for some time. Goes, "Protect?" and I say that I have Cleric Stance and that you really don't NEED protect in here. I get an, "Ew" from the tank and a disagree emote from the archer, who then casts Protect. So really, saying anything was a waste of time. The tank then proceeds to speed run the entire dungeon. Nobody died, but I feel sorry for new healers, who might not be able to handle that much damage that fast.

Not much of a horror story, but I just came back from a long break and I've been terrified that people would complain I don't dps enough as a healer...so this kind of surprised me lol. But hey, at least I got the card!!

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Originally Posted by Selli

Not really. It's a 5 second mechanic where everyone is supposed to stand still. Would it be the WHM's fault if they had died to Blighted pre-nerf in t6? No. Of course not. It's the job of everyone in the party to avoid the mechanic. And spending 2,128 MP to avoid a 5 second move is kind of irrational, not to mention that time could be spent DPSing or healing the MT or something. A Medica II (or 2 if you have 2 WHMS) and a SCH's succor is more than enough to mitigate it.

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Exactly. Although there are ways you can still dps during heatwave without stressing out your party's healers. When I am on monk, I save Bloodbath and Second Wind for it so I can continue to dps during heatwave without requiring any heals.

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Originally Posted by Rydiah

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Personally, protect over cleric stance any day :/

This reminded me of a newbie healer I had in sastasha. I was helping a guildie (THM) while lvling my lancer for invigorate and the tank was also a fc mate. A little in the THM says to me "this CNJ is awful fond of clerics stance". And sure enough it was on all the time with her dpsing then having to spam cure to get the tanks hp back to 'not almost dead'. I decided ok she's a newbie (leaf and all) I kindly (kindly being the key word here) explain about stance dancing and clerics and she starts yelling at me out of nowhere.
"What the hell do you know!"
"It's going faster stfu"
"Stop being so self righteous" (made no sense seeing as all I did was explain stance dancing)

She ended up getting booted because the obscene language knew no bounds, not for the cleric stance healing...

This is why I'm sometimes too horrified to give newbies help...

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Originally Posted by Ignnis

Personally, protect over cleric stance any day :/

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I don't know if you ever scholar'ed a low level dungeon, but the fairy is enough even without protect, and with CS you are practically a 3rd DPS, if synched you often do more damage than non-synched "real" DPS.
Untraited protect doesn't even come close to CS in usefulness in low level content.

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Originally Posted by Spoekes

I don't know if you ever scholar'ed a low level dungeon, but the fairy is enough even without protect, and with CS you are practically a 3rd DPS, if synched you often do more damage than non-synched "real" DPS.
Untraited protect doesn't even come close to CS in usefulness in low level content.

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This is, of course, absolutely true; unfortunately very few people seem to believe it.

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Originally Posted by Spoekes

I don't know if you ever scholar'ed a low level dungeon, but the fairy is enough even without protect, and with CS you are practically a 3rd DPS, if synched you often do more damage than non-synched "real" DPS.
Untraited protect doesn't even come close to CS in usefulness in low level content.

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Alternatively, slap Protect on everyone, do the cross-class swap dance, fairy is more than enough to keep everyone alive while you just book smack for 30 seconds then go nuts in Cleric's Stance. Best of both worlds with 30 second downtime (potentially less if you make the transition between pulls since you have travel time anyway)

I had a really derpy SCH with me in a Ifrit HM run last night. He has his fairy cast a ton of buffs on the party before the tank even pulls. Naturally, Ifrit isn't having any of that crap and kills the fairy. SCH decides to not summon and completely gimps our combined healing until he dies. Only after I rezzed him does he decide to bring his fairy back.

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Alternatively, slap Protect on everyone, do the cross-class swap dance, fairy is more than enough to keep everyone alive while you just book smack for 30 seconds then go nuts in Cleric's Stance. Best of both worlds with 30 second downtime (potentially less if you make the transition between pulls since you have travel time anyway)

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Yeah this works, but in Rydiah situation the tank started a speed run pull, so the 30 sec. book slapping may or may not have become a problem then xD

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Originally Posted by Spoekes

Yeah this works, but in Rydiah situation the tank started a speed run pull, so the 30 sec. book slapping may or may not have become a problem then xD

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Indeed, probably why they were waiting for Protect in the first place.

Funny enough, I imagine it would've taken the tank at least 30 seconds from the start of the dungeon to stop at the camp spot he wanted, so it probably would've worked out anyway. lol.