Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

People talk about pre-moving all the time, like it's something that is always possible, and people say that lag isn't too much of an issue. Healers are a class that often cannot pre-move because someone needs heals NOW, especially in Titan HM 'cos someone didn't dodge a plume, or the tank took a critical mountain buster to the face. As a healer, you know the next plume, bomb, landslide is coming, but you also know that if you don't heal NOW, someone's gonna die and likely cause a team wipe. So you take the gamble, start casting a heal, and hope it gets off in time. Of course, throw lag on top of that, and you're probably starting to cast a full second after you really should be as far as the server is concerned, and THEN a plume appears under your feet just as your cast is ending. You react and run immediately, sometimes the heal goes off, sometimes it doesn't. You're standing outside of the plume, start casting the heal again, it's half-way done, and BAM, you get hit by the WoL, and your heal is interrupted.

That's my experience, with international lag, trying to heal through Titan HM. I've tanked it, I've DPS'd it, and those jobs are SO MUCH easier to do it on such that I'm convinced that most every one who says "it's easy if you memorise and pre-dodge it all" never ever had to heal through it with lag.

People are right in saying that the fight is generally doable with the right group, but, that's missing the point. Very few are saying Titan is too hard. He's not. It's that the difficulty is gimmicky, way too dependent on latency, and prone to creating feelings of frustration rather than fun.

SE needs to rethink the source of difficulty in fights. It can involve a reflex component, but it shouldn't be so brutal as to exclude or piss off a huge percentage of their players. It's like they're designing precision sequences in Oddworld right now. Those are great options in single-player platforming titles. They're shitty and frustrating in MMOs.

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Originally Posted by ArtEmisPalmecia

This thread probably wouldn't exist if SE actually let the client determine who was in the hit box, and not the server.
The delay between animation and having the damage register is laughable and shameful on SE's part at the same time.

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Or rather, got more creative with their bosses...

I have the feeling that even if it were offline, I wouldn't enjoy it. HM was "fine" because it introduced the Mountain Buster... we didn't need the EM bringing even more AoE.

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Originally Posted by Dorin

Whatever, I don't need to prove anything to anybody. The entire fight is scripted, eating anything shows obvious lack of skill or lag. And if you have lag and don't do anything about it, it's still your fault anyway.

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That's some crazy ego trip you're going on

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Originally Posted by Red_Panda

The only problem with Titan is Weight of the land. This ability is sometimes not possible to avoid. I have a very fast connection and have done titan countless times and have started running anticipating it coming up with classes like bard and am still sometimes not able to leave the circle in time to avoid. If the game does its .5 second check or whatever it is right before you leave the circle it doesnt matter how far you get out on your screen you are screwed. They need to either delay the explosion for half a second or lower the radius by a yalm. I think it is a great skill check that is just a tad too over tuned. It should be something that forces you to react instantly but should always be avoidable if reacted to.

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That's bull. I have a 99% plume dodge rate. Check your connection, if you say you can't dodge them in time it's either because:

a) You don't react fast enough.
b) Your ping is very high / you have lag.

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Originally Posted by Dorin

That's bull. I have a 99% plume dodge rate.

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Now that's bull right there.

If I leave FF14, it is most likely going to be because of Titan EX :D

Made progress on Titan ex last night, realized it was because it was 3am, and server wasnt overloaded, which made it so when I dodged plumes or landslides... I actually dodged them.

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Originally Posted by ArtEmisPalmecia

Now that's bull right there.

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Whatever, I don't need to prove anything to anybody. The entire fight is scripted, eating anything shows obvious lack of skill or lag. And if you have lag and don't do anything about it, it's still your fault anyway.

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Originally Posted by Dorin

Whatever, I don't need to prove anything to anybody. The entire fight is scripted, eating anything shows obvious lack of skill or lag. And if you have lag and don't do anything about it, it's still your fault anyway.

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Way to make a whole post just to boost about how much better you are compared to the rest of us that cannot pass it. Really great work here. Do you have any other words to continue to berate us? And proof your superiority?

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Originally Posted by gadenp

Way to make a whole post just to boost about how much better you are compared to the rest of us that cannot pass it. Really great work here. Do you have any other words to continue to berate us? And proof your superiority?

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There is no need to be upset.

Plus, I'm not berating anybody. I'm stating facts. The fight is scripted. You know that after those stomps, plumes will come. You even know you can start moving beforehand. Yet, you still eat those plumes and die, making the party wipe. This is called being bad, only exception being lag. Period.