#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Originally Posted by Flay_wind

Ye, all jobs should have their complete dps rotation by Sastasha. !!FUN!!

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Yes, where's the issue? That's what we healers have.

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Originally Posted by Assur

You cite WAR here. This is a problem about WAR being busted, and not about tanks in general invaldiating your role. Only WAR can pull this off and maybe PAL, but surely not GNB or DRK.

For me, the damage in take doesn't stop at all when I am hoovering often at 20% and 30% HP constantly despite the healers healing. Maybe the expert here find time to spam AoE there too, but I am not sure how reprenstative this is a for all palyers.

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Correction: I used WAR as a point of emphasis. It's also the tank I know best. But honestly even healing GNB isn't too hard if they correctly use Rampart and Nebula and Heart of Corrundum (sp) and Camouflage.

Also Healer isn't my role. Not any more. I swapped to Black Mage months ago, have been enjoying it, and quite frankly I'm just here to give the perspective of the Healer Main's frustrations without the emotional baggage of going into DT as a Healer Main.

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Originally Posted by Capstone

We stopped getting Gulgs because casuals found it too hard and needed it simplified. Thats not a jab at anyone that's just the actual history.

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I hate this line of reasoning because no one is forcing you to run the whole wall to wall. People may ask you to, but they can suck if up if the tank/healer combo can't handle it. Isn't that what we did in ARR and SHB?

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

In my experience, the trick to getting to use your GCD heals in Extreme/Savage is getting a co-healer who is drunk/high/extremely tired.

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So this but unironically. I've spent plenty of the content droughts of the last expansion being a long term sub for newer raiders and the chaos that unfolds sometimes in that environment has the spark of week 1 prog. It's also just genuinely fun to mentor and teach, and I can keep my eyes open and looking around while pressing my "one button" to call out upcoming mistakes. It is, again, entirely what you make of it.

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Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian

But if, like most people arguing against the topic said, it seems to be fine for healers to have one button spam gameplay. So why can't it be on every other jobs? Especially ones thoses so righteous people play.

After all, like us healers who should be fine with it and mustn't complain, they should be fine too with this happening to their jobs.

Maybe that's what we should ask? one button spam for every jobs?

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You know what, if one part of the trinity is suffering then all of it should suffer, agreed!

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Originally Posted by Basteala

I hate this line of reasoning because no one is forcing you to run the whole wall to wall. People may ask you to, but they can suck if up if the tank/healer combo can't handle it. Isn't that what we did in ARR and SHB?

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Do you want dungeons to be hard or not? Slow supports that were too weak to pull everything was how we got to 1/0/3. So which is it?

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

That’s probably how I would do it, something like if glare 4 comes from 5 glare 3’s then POM could empower holy and holy becomes a gain on single target that you could use three of then that would trigger an empowered finisher

So empowered holy (sort of like how holy might works on PLD) takes the current place of glare 4, and glare 4 becomes a button that you press every 20 seconds or so and can proc diacloud’s

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A good suggestion. My request is for every tick of Dia’s DoT timer, there is a chance it would proc into Glare IV. A method similar to BLM’s old thunder proc ability (RIP Sharpcast) and BRDs Bloodletter proves of their DoTs.

Overall, WHM’s DPS rotation would be the following at max level.

Glare III
Dia on a 12, 15, or 20 sec timer.
Glare IV - which can be used after a Dia proc or after PoM is used.
Afflatus Misery
Enhanced Holy III, a new finisher after PoM is used which turns said action into an AoE DoT.

Make these changes and decrease PoM CD down to 60secs and we are good to go. No new DPS actions needed.

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Originally Posted by Kaixern

You know what, if one part of the trinity is suffering then all of it should suffer, agreed!

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That's not rly the issue I pointed. And I know from the post I quoted from you that you have understood my point.

It's mostly aimed at all those people who come here saying that it's totally fine and expected that healers suffer from this horrible gameplay when, and I'm sure, they'd be the first to complain if the same thing happened to them with their job.

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Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian

Yes, where's the issue? That's what we healers have.

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There's no issue.
Everyone should have 1-2 combo, and one aoe. Not those other complicated rotations, that's too hard and stressful. Give everyone more healing and mitigations tools while we're at it.

On a more serious note. The fact that since Shadowbringers changes healers single target damage rotations does not change after level 4 is a crime.
Like yes, i know how to press 1 and 2 by Sastasha.
Sage is even worse, since it actually does not get their DoT until level 30, since it's tied to Eukrasia. You literally spam Dosis and Kardia does enough healing to off-set any damage tanks take.

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Originally Posted by Capstone

Do you want dungeons to be hard or not? Slow supports that were too weak to pull everything was how we got to 1/0/3. So which is it?

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Having Hard mode dungeons back from pre-ShB era would be nice. Or maybe having the expert roulette play max level dungeons at minimum item level.

A nerf to tank sustain would also be a boon for healers. I’m not asking for a rework to tank jobs, but just a nerf to some of their sustain / mitigation abilities. Though DRK sustain / mitigation actions are fine as is.