Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

Last night I was running Cutter's Cry on my caster alt, it was his first time in there at 38 on Summoner but I know the dungeon pretty well. We get in, the healer was lamenting getting it, basically saying she wished it was anything else. Someone else agreed, but we start, the tank pulls one of the bats by itself, we kill it, then... tank bails. >_>; I pretty much expected the healer to take the opportunity to bail too after her comments, but when she doesn't, I suggest we try a few pulls with Titan because sitting around is dull. The others agree, so we start pulling...

Titan, sadly, can't aoe agro to save his life (or mine :X) but in spite of that, we start clearing packs with Titan taking one mob, the dragoon taking one, and the healer and I kiting the rest around. It was pretty touch and go, but we manage to clear up to the first boss that way, despite that the healer said she couldn't target Titan, leaving me to play scholar by healing him. Still no tank, the dragoon bails at this point saying he has work in the morning. Of course the dps slot instantly refills with a machinist, who ends up being pretty nice, apparently someone who just came back after a couple years. We wait a couple minutes, then decide to try boss; I have Titan take the boss herself with me healing, and we burn down the marshal when it comes out while the healer kites around all the lesser adds... I admit, I was surprised it went so well. XD

At this point, we're like "We don't need no tank!" and just forge ahead. There were definitely some tense moments, and lots of running in circles spamming Ruin II. Second boss was pretty rough, between relatively high tank damage and that dot, but with the aid of a Swiftcast Physick when the healer was at like 100 hp once, we got through it. Two deaths--me and the healer, though we ressed each other--on the pack with a doblyn and two slimes, but generally pretty painless. We were all a liiiittle worried about chimera, but he ended up being the easiest boss by far because all three of us were pretty competent at dodging and he has very little tank damage outside of mechanics, so I could even dps some there. XD Healer ran into a Ram's Breath and died just before the boss did, sadly, but aside from that it was pretty flawless. At the end, the healer was like "Tell your friends you've been through hell, and you did it without a tank!" And we all agreed it was pretty much the most fun we'd had in a while! Sadly, none of the others were from Faerie.

Have been on Thornmarch Extreme the whole week. Every single time I had to explain the strategy, I'm on ps4, writing with the controller. Every single time people go full ret and kill a moggle for no reason, or start killing BLM or WHM after it was said not to hit them except for interrupts. I even had to stop mid battle to type and call out on people for DoTing, downing BLM and WHM and what not.
The question is why? Why people won't listen to very simple instructions?

Recently started leveling dark knight, I am probably not the best tank out there, but I am not the worst. I always try to position the mobs in a way to facilitate dps and use cooldowns.

I am currently leveling at Dzemael Darkhold and I have a question for all the machinists out there: do you see that flying mob in the crystal's aoe? There is a reason why I moved it away from there, so why do you feel the need to blast it back in place again? Think about the poor melee in the party.

Now, excuse me as I go to cry in a corner.

Edit: if both DPS are ranged, I don't care if the machinist blast things away.

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Originally Posted by Meimi_chan

Recently started leveling dark knight, I am probably not the best tank out there, but I am not the worst. I always try to position the mobs in a way to facilitate dps and use cooldowns.

I am currently leveling at Dzemael Darkhold and I have a question for all the machinists out there: do you see that flying mob in the crystal's aoe? There is a reason why I moved it away from there, so why do you feel the need to blast it back in place again? Think about the poor melee in the party.

Now, excuse me as I go to cry in a corner.

Edit: if both DPS are ranged, I don't care if the machinist blast things away.

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Blank shot lol..I only use that skill when fighting solo or on bombs in pharos HM.

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Originally Posted by Lethallin

A1 normal HAS an enrage?

Huh, imagine that.

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Yup, and I didn't even know that before. I didn't have a look at the timer, but it occurs ca. 15 minutes after the battle starts (I think).

Oh, and I found out yesterday that A3 normal also has an enrage. We had three new DPS who I explained the strat to, even twice, yet they neither managed to dodge any AOE, nor did they kill adds, and the overall DPS was low as shit. And the healers were shit, letting my HP drop from my initial 18k to, like, 1200 before I got the first heal. At one point I used Hallowed Ground because otherwise I would've died; 8 seconds later I still didn't get a heal so I had to cast Clemency. WHM spammed Medica II and sometimes used Cure II, AST wasted their sweet AOE balance while I explained the strat to the newbies and barely used any cards (or heals ._.) during battle.

Today I did 50s rou as my war; got WPHM.

Had a whm who insisted on casting regen and medica ii before every single pull... and despite there being very little healing to do, they just stood there and either unnecessarily cast medica ii (clearly their favourite spell) or /cheer'd at me. Really. Not a single dps spell even though they had so much free time... it was their first time there so I refrained from commenting about the lack of dpsing, but I did eventually have to ask they stop with the regen etc before pulls. How do you get past level 50 without noticing the aggro it creates? They died twice due to pre-pulling aggro on big groups! They eventually stopped when asked, but never said a word...

Did Alexander normal, we wipe once and I get kicked for some reason.

Because blame the healer, not like other people dying was because the dps and tanks were ignoring mechanics.

But whatever anyways, I don't have any issues with Alexander if the team is competent, but apparently when dps are dying from 3 lasers on them, or from too many stacks from adds, it's apparently my fault.

Really starting to just loath people in general. Seems every run I go into lately someone leaves or there is that one ass hole who is always right and everyone else may as well be crap encrusted dirt next to their gloriousness. Got Castrum Meridianum in roulette today and at the very start one of our dps bails. I ask if we are gonna replenish several times and even tell the person who is currently party lead how to do it since they may not know, all the while being totally ignored by said person. Then at the end one of the tanks thought it would be funny to drag Livia onto the cannons to start killing them. Vote New Party Lead needs to become a thing. Or just freakin let anyone replenish ranks.

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Originally Posted by Lethallin

A1 normal HAS an enrage?

Huh, imagine that.

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Back when gordian prototype gear was still relevant, i had plenty of DF groups which got 0.5 comming in at around 68-72%hp of opressor, that pretty much was a telling sign of enrage, even if they desperatly followed the mechanics to letter. And its was very funny to see after second wipe to enrage they always start pointing fingers at ridiculous things. And you can clearly tell they've been carried as they have gordian gear on them.

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Originally Posted by gzuscry

Back when gordian prototype gear was still relevant, i had plenty of DF groups which got 0.5 comming in at around 68-72%hp of opressor, that pretty much was a telling sign of enrage, even if they desperatly followed the mechanics to letter. And its was very funny to see after second wipe to enrage they always start pointing fingers at ridiculous things. And you can clearly tell they've been carried as they have gordian gear on them.

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I've seen the enrage twice. One, the first day of the release, when people (i180 or so) were still learning. Second, last week, when people (i200 or so) did as much damage as I do as a Botanist lvl 30. Top DPS : PLD. Then came WAR, SCH, ME (WHM) and all the other dps.

Running A3 on paladin. During whirl phase, people don't kill adds and someone takes the tether away from the other tank. We eventually wipe and one of the dps calls out on us tanks for not doing our job.

I was doing relic quest on AK Hard for my AST relic

tank has 600HP more than I do as a healer, Lvl50, 1 of the right hand side pieces was STR

everything else was INT and MND ><

Laurima: Tank? why have you got mages accessories on?
Tank: I'm leveling up and those are the only higher level accessories I have
Laurima: where are you bits you were using at Lvl49?
Tank: Silence -_-


BRD and BLM peeled hate like there was no tomorrow, How we didn't wipe once, I'm still not sure but yikes -_-

A story from earlier today in Saint Mocianne's...

DRK tank barely scratches the min. ilvl and tanks the entire dungeon without grit, and without a clue.
We ask him and few times get his game on, but our pleas are met with silence during the entire run. Thankfully our party didn't mind too much and as a NIN I had a bit of fun playing at strategist by re-directing hate as needed with Shadewalker and Smoke Screen :)

So sorry for the DPS who ran with me and my friend in AKHM. I was healing, and right after the first pull I get the notice that all my accessories had broke.....nice
I check and everything else is about 10% :') My friend was like "okay" and pulled less and put on his VIT accessories. It was doing..okay...until we wiped at the Demon Wall room.
Everything broke.
My HP suddenly went to 2000 and my Cure II barely did 400. It was awesome. We attempted the last boss, because I had like, two pieces of extra gear on me, but we wiped at about 27%.

So embarrassing

Gotta say, getting real tired of the crap I've been getting for playing PLD lately

Over the last week, I've had DPS drop out of EX Roulette before (or just as) the gate drops some 12 times. Of the few times they've actually bothered to say something, one was "Oh sh** a PLD? no thanks, I don't feel like a 40 minute run."

So first, I've hardly ever had a run go above 20 minutes on my PLD, and that variance tells me it's more often the DPS' skill/composition that makes that difference.

Second, It's roulette people. You don't want to take the risk of getting undergeared/unskilled people? Run a premade.

Third, you'd rather eat a 30 minute penalty than maybe getting a slightly longer dungeon run?

Has the relic grind really given people this "need for speed?" I've only really noticed this behavior since 3.15...

I was doing the weekly guildhest roulette on my scholar to lvl, I summon eos instead of selene after putting protect and then
Usual freeze with direct x thingy from ff... anyway
when the freeze is over, only one mob was left the tank was dead and they finished it. I gave my apologies and left
and oddly I got the coms.

Never felt so bad to get them D:

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Originally Posted by Ironos

Gotta say, getting real tired of the crap I've been getting for playing PLD lately

Over the last week, I've had DPS drop out of EX Roulette before (or just as) the gate drops some 12 times. Of the few times they've actually bothered to say something, one was "Oh sh** a PLD? no thanks, I don't feel like a 40 minute run."

So first, I've hardly ever had a run go above 20 minutes on my PLD, and that variance tells me it's more often the DPS' skill/composition that makes that difference.

Second, It's roulette people. You don't want to take the risk of getting undergeared/unskilled people? Run a premade.

Third, you'd rather eat a 30 minute penalty than maybe getting a slightly longer dungeon run?

Has the relic grind really given people this "need for speed?" I've only really noticed this behavior since 3.15...

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Wouldn't be your fault for a 40 minute run if you're playing PLD correctly.. WAR and DRK are strong but they can't carry bad DPS..

Another one as AST:

Already did my roulette, but decided to do another. Got 3 sprouts. I knew it was gonna suck from the outset, but I figured I'd deal since it's roulette. As expected, the tank's not keeping aggro. I'm trying to stance dance, but we wipe before even getting to the first boss. Both the tank and one of the DPS MNKs don't release as I requested, forcing us to struggle even harder when the tank already has less HP and takes more damage than I do. (Small wonder, he's not even fully equipped).

First boss, he takes the AoE every time. I cleanse the paralysis, ask him not to stand in AoEs. We keep worming our way through. He dies a few more times, doesn't release, even though I'm now focused exclusively on healing him. We get into the Captain's Quarters and he stands in the big guy's AoE; gets one-shot. Well... the DPS kicked him. (I voted not to; understand it was his first time, but come on...)

I tanked until after the second Captain Madison fight, when we got a competent tank.

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Originally Posted by Ironos

"Oh sh** a PLD? no thanks, I don't feel like a 40 minute run."

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That's unfortunate, and I love me some pally tanks, but honestly if they said that, I think them leaving is a blessing in disguise. :P If their runs take 40 minutes with a paladin, there are issues not tied to the job.


Now for mine, this was semi recent. As a preface, I'm not the healer type, I hate doing it, and I don't think I'm particularly good at it. It doesn't matter what game I play, I don't like being a healer, but healing in FFXIV has proven to be a bit easier to get into and allowed for DPS, so I decide to level an astrologian while my BF played arcanist/summoner (though more accurately, I should say it was the only thing I had in his level range to fast track queues).

Most of my experiences weren't bad, and I had previously leveled white mage to 50, but I dreaded healing the Vault. My first handful of runs were smooth, with maybe one or two questionable runs with some interesting people, but nothing major and all concluded well. As I quickly learned, things are fine and uneventful, until Charibert where it can get pretty hectic, but still manageable for me. I got the hang of where and when I use my CDs, pretty much down to a science, and getting in DPS, so it usually isn't as bad as my whinging makes it out to be.

Now, this one run was the only truly bad Vault we had. We had a dark knight tank, and oh boy, I noticed something was off real quick. His HP was dropping more than any other tank I've healed, and it seemed he had no idea what CDs were (which I noticed near the end), but I still am able to keep him up as long as I didn't DPS. The problem really started to present itself with Charibert. He was getting wrecked to the point where I had to spam heal him and pop CDs like no tomorrow while managing the rest of the damage. We wiped numerous times, six or seven times. On the last attempt with him, I asked him to at least use some of his CDs in the fight, to which he popped everything pre-pull and never again in the encounter. I asked him to weave in Delirium, because, hey, maybe that will help! I was getting desperate and needed something to make this work! He replies with "I don't have that." My BF decided to inspect the tank, and the guy was wearing an array of level 50ish gear with some 30-40 pieces, and no boots. Combined with his lack of knowledge on how to play a dark knight, it was apparent that it wasn't going to fly. The only thing I can say in his favour is that he kept up darkside more than half the dark knights I run into.

Tank was booted, but the other DPS left (who actually was pretty good). A second summoner came in, but the wait time for a tank was growing longer. I decide to drop and requeue into the instance as a tank, banking on it being easier to get a healer in. A healer queues in, Charibert eats dirt again via an angry axe to the face.

While leveling PLD to 60 i was top dps 4 dungeons in a row... :')

A few days ago I was in an ifrit hm run for my bard alt and used lb3 after hell fire. I figured why not because ifrit hm. The ninja decides to call me out as a horrible player because I, a filthy ranged, used lb3 on the boss.

He continues to spew venom with 3 people defending me until the end of the fight only to find out that he was rocking FULL fending accessories as a ninja. Bear in mind this was a I209 player so he was well into the game. :/

I want to post a good expert roulette run I had...Saturday morning I think it was. I queued as Bard like normal, we had Pld, whm, and I think drg. I was expecting a slow run...and I couldn't been more wrong. We were in St. Mocainnes (sp?) And we flew through it!
Everyone was on point. We downed first boss before 3rd rotation, no one died on 2nd wall, we cleared 2nd boss before the 2nd Ally, and on Final boss we cleared it just after the plant adds. It was a fantastic run that took only about 20 minutes and was probably the fastest and smoothest pug I have ever had, and if those guys read the forums, they are awesome!

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Originally Posted by Vanitas

A few days ago I was in an ifrit hm run for my bard alt and used lb3 after hell fire. I figured why not because ifrit hm. The ninja decides to call me out as a horrible player because I, a filthy ranged, used lb3 on the boss.

He continues to spew venom with 3 people defending me until the end of the fight only to find out that he was rocking FULL fending accessories as a ninja. Bear in mind this was a I209 player so he was well into the game. :/

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Full fending NIN huh

those deeps must have been insane LOL

It seems to be becoming the "norm" though... Just had a run in snowcloak for the roulette. Tank was wearing Intel accessories, machinist was wearing crafter belt, and STR / Vita accessories. When you ask them why, the answer comes easy : "for the sake of ilvl". And it's the same story almost everyday. Just so sick of that, really.

Took a two month break, finally came back today and decided to do a low level roulette run. Got Darkhold Dzemael, which I was happy with.

Until I noticed our tank.

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/9...1453740605.png

I cried.

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Originally Posted by cgbspender

It seems to be becoming the "norm" though... Just had a run in snowcloak for the roulette. Tank was wearing Intel accessories, machinist was wearing crafter belt, and STR / Vita accessories. When you ask them why, the answer comes easy : "for the sake of ilvl". And it's the same story almost everyday. Just so sick of that, really.

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Had a PLD doing that with Mind Acc and all NQ 145 left side yesterday in fractal.

The MNK new how to scale back their attacks, but the low quality BLM was tthe type to judge how well they played based off how many times they took hate. Straight boss dps, ignoring adds type. Was rough to heal even at i205.

Kind of a funnier story:

Last night was leveling THM, got into haukke Manor for my last dungeon of the night. Right before the 2nd boss, I saw like 8 cop cars, an ambulance, and a fire truck show up in the parking lot of the apartment complex that is on the other side of the fence from my building.

Like the curious neighbor I am, I absentmindedly left my computer to watch the show with my boyfriend. Everyone's just standing around for a while so I go back to my desk, and have an OH SHIT moment realizing I was still in a dungeon.

I apologized and explained my situation, it was all cool, and I fully intended to continue the dungeon. However, my boyfriend suddenly exclaimed "there's a guy on the ground!" And so I just decided to leave. Interesting end to my night. I'm sure the group found another dps right away (hopefully ).

I ran into a DRK tank yesterday in AK HM who had i55 sword, a few WoD pieces, a few Dusk Vigil pieces, and an i28 choker. I asked what was up with that "I just got to this level" (He had several 60s including PLD).

The run was slow and I did an AOE LB on the dps check room so we didn't wipe. The WHM was new to the dungeon I think, possibly, and never really DPS'd.

I've just had a Warrior who critized me to the hilt purely because I was playing an Astrologian and according to his friend he 'dislikes Astrologians', the most childish thing I've ever heard. Things got even worse when he and the DPS failed to break me out of a snare and caused a wipe.

I have over 850 commendations and healed the dungeon perfectly. This guy had the most disgusting attitude I have ever seen in the game and I never rant about this kind of stuff. Thankfully 99.9% of people I meet in the game are nice, polite and friendly, unfortunately people like this guy exist and have to ruin the game for others.

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Originally Posted by Ironos

Gotta say, getting real tired of the crap I've been getting for playing PLD lately

Over the last week, I've had DPS drop out of EX Roulette before (or just as) the gate drops some 12 times. Of the few times they've actually bothered to say something, one was "Oh sh** a PLD? no thanks, I don't feel like a 40 minute run."

So first, I've hardly ever had a run go above 20 minutes on my PLD, and that variance tells me it's more often the DPS' skill/composition that makes that difference.

Second, It's roulette people. You don't want to take the risk of getting undergeared/unskilled people? Run a premade.

Third, you'd rather eat a 30 minute penalty than maybe getting a slightly longer dungeon run?

Has the relic grind really given people this "need for speed?" I've only really noticed this behavior since 3.15...

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Pfft, as a WHM I don't even notice that much of a difference between the tanks as long as they know how to damage mitigate properly so that I can reasonably go into DPS mode. I find that Paladins are the most likely to buy me time to join in the offense myself, while Warriors tend to have their HP yo-yo like crazy.

The way I play though, if a run takes longer than 25 minutes, it's very clearly not the fault of the tank, but the DPS not playing as well as they should be. I've had runs with DPS in ilvl 180 gear go faster than DPS in ilvl 205.

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Originally Posted by cgbspender

It seems to be becoming the "norm" though... Just had a run in snowcloak for the roulette. Tank was wearing Intel accessories, machinist was wearing crafter belt, and STR / Vita accessories. When you ask them why, the answer comes easy : "for the sake of ilvl". And it's the same story almost everyday. Just so sick of that, really.

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I'll admit, I did the same sneaking vitality accessories on my BLK to get him into Ark this week xD

Don't hate the Player, hate the game #avgilvlwoes

Man. It's been a while since I had to do Expert roulette. Got paired with a BLM and a DRG. Man, I really don't know why, I felt I was pretty cordial... until he told our healer to 'Fuckoff'... v.v so I decided to tell him he was aweful.

Sad, because I was trying to be tolerant of him. DPS was pretty miserable. DRG was literally doing half the damage of myself, so not sure what to really tell this guy. XD Then he messages me out of the dungoun.

http://imgur.com/BIglSvx.png
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Originally Posted by Eidolon

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Wow u aren't exactly doing yourself a favour posting this :rolleyes:
Terrible attitude u got there mate
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I'm currently leveling my DRK and wow the amount of healers not dpsing when there's nothing to heal is insane (no, I don't wnat to start a debate)
One WHM in particular in Sohm Al - I think they were rly bored and didn't want to just stand around and do nothing so they decided to spam cure like a madman/woman. I swear to god, 20 HP were gone and BAM cure...all the time - I never realized how annying the cure sound is untill then
It's especially bad for me with Scholars - not a single shadwoflare or even a small Miasma II makes me sad :(
Though in the vault one SCH asked if I want them to dps or just heal, that was rad and we were both happy :D

Got a BLM who only casted F3 ---> Flare ---> Transpose ---> Ice 3 ---> Fire 3 ---> Flare
On Bosses he only used half his mana before he went umbral

A WAR who only pulled 2-3 mobs in lvl 50 roulette and failed to hold aggro on them.

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Originally Posted by ValyrianBlood

Wow u aren't exactly doing yourself a favour posting this :rolleyes:
Terrible attitude u got there mate

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1) I'm not the least bit concerned with impressing anyone. That's why I don't edit the post ;)

2) I was pleasant up until he told our healer to fuck off for... Reasons?

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I feel ya. Myself I won't dps the first rounds cause I'm not sure about my tank and/or party. Once I got confidence I will, or not if I have a paper tank. i specially do hate those who keep jumping and not doing sh*t all.

Anyhow, I got quiet the opposite here in VA lately which makes me hate to go as a healer now. Out of maybe 20 runs this week (yes, no luck on my drop until today and I got something I didn't want jsut to not go back there) I had maybe 2 or 3 runs only where I had nice co-healers. Most would just not go out of cleric, no matter if whm, sch or ast, no buffs, no raises, nothing, leaving me in a very stressy mood. I got fed up asking them for help in party chat so I ended up switching to cleric myself. And guess what, one healer one run only healed when he himself was in danger and BOOM back to cleric, another didn't give a damn even with 4 players dead, another one we kicked, and the rest was jsut a mix of the first two. Even had a sch who would intentionally stay way apart from the party to avoid the fairy healing, and an astro who gave himself balance and arrow... I am so fed up of this attitude! Is this a new trend now? Cause it can gtfo already if you ask me >_>

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http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/9...1453740605.png

I cried.

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Roe hug...

Long story short
Leveling Roulette on my PLD
Load into Brayflox Normal
Immediately starts thinking "fuck why me "
Starts debating about leaving and eating that 30m timer
2 minutes later *still debating*
I continue on anyways
We wipe and i check healers gear
*no accessories*
:') i should have just left

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Originally Posted by OmegaStrongtan

Got a BLM who only casted F3 ---> Flare ---> Transpose ---> Ice 3 ---> Fire 3 ---> Flare
On Bosses he only used half his mana before he went umbral

A WAR who only pulled 2-3 mobs in lvl 50 roulette and failed to hold aggro on them.

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Dont know if we have met a same blm lol, my blm use f3->flare->transpose->bliz->bliz->fire3->flare....
And at boss f3 - f3 - bliz - bliz -bliz - bliz - f3 -f3 - ....
has been 2 weeks agon but i still have a nightmare about this lol
And that was in expert dungeon.

Lets see i think this was the other night >.> <.< yaa.. anyway my fiance and i load up in the lvl 50 roulette dungeon and the tank leaves as soon as the bars drop. Im going noooo dont leave ussss *dies* but decide to ask the healer if they wanna clear some trash while we wait on a new tnk.. we clear up to first boss.. well no tnk.. we ask the healer if they wanna try the boss they say yes and we cont.. the whole dungeon no tank just us 3 killing everything... must have been the most fun ive had in DF in along time lol. If that healer ever reads this i wanna say Thank you! and keep being awesome ^.^/