Can we talk about how mnk, drg, and blm are blatantly overpowered right now?

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Originally Posted by Zerathor

They'll be buffed beyond belief, and all gameplay bugs fixed, and to celebrate, build another ultimate fight based around their cooldowns to the point they're borderline required in the fight to celebrate buffs. It feels eerily familiar....

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Worry not my black mage friend, if you'd been paying attention to any of the threads summoners were making since the media tour (yes, that long ago), you'd know that the job no longer has the capacity to tailor its cooldown use around fight downtime. Little fixes to egi assault apm don't address this at all, it'll just stop people joking about getting RSI from playing the job.

That's how it worked by the way, it's not the fight being 'based around their cooldowns' like some kind of favourtism, but aetherflow letting good players adapt their cooldowns to any fight. No more hoarding aetherflow while doing mechanics for trios or waiting for ultima to spawn, and then bursting hard in the short time the target is visible. Instead of a shotgun you can reload in downtime and choose when to fire, summoner is now holding a garden sprinkler and you just have to hope it's pointing at your target when you want it to. Like bards in hw and machinists in sb, this is a massive design flaw that likely won't be looked at until next expansion.

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Originally Posted by Myon88

Worry not my black mage friend, if you'd been paying attention to any of the threads summoners were making since the media tour (yes, that long ago), you'd know that the job no longer has the capacity to tailor its cooldown use around fight downtime. Little fixes to egi assault apm don't address this at all, it'll just stop people joking about getting RSI from playing the job.

That's how it worked by the way, it's not the fight being 'based around their cooldowns' like some kind of favourtism, but aetherflow letting good players adapt their cooldowns to any fight. No more hoarding aetherflow while doing mechanics for trios or waiting for ultima to spawn, and then bursting hard in the short time the target is visible. Instead of a shotgun you can reload in downtime and choose when to fire, summoner is now holding a garden sprinkler and you just have to hope it's pointing at your target when you want it to. Like bards in hw and machinists in sb, this is a massive design flaw that likely won't be looked at until next expansion.

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And I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they reverted to the broken bs it once was. It must be so heart breaking to hold cool downs and not burn them as soon as they come up for zero consequence... like every other job in the damn game. The tragedy... smn can't use "muh skill" to press a button once every 60 seconds to use their burst at their leisure in a fight. Imagine for a moment if any other job had that kind of nonsense. "Oh battle litany is up? ah damn the boss jumped, guess I have to hold it" "TA is up, but the party wont get a good time to burst its full duration, better hold it" "battle voice is up, but the boss is jumping soon" "ley lines are ready, but I'll only get one gcd in before i need to abandon them" ect, ect, ect.

but aetherflow then? "hur dur, 60 second have passed. I'll use these ogcd's when i feel like it. This also gets to control all my other nonsense ability's effective cool down."

But no, the job that effectively didn't have to care about cooldowns for sure didn't have a fight with that much downtime built around them for that. And certainly not for a large mechanic of the fight being a double target phase either, where no other job can even justify doing duo target damage... except for the Mary Sue caster.

As far as I'm concerned, they got welcomed to what everyone else has to deal with.

But just watch. These little brats will get another fight tailored to them. Because they have in the past, and they whine harder than warriors used to when any other tank had a shred more relevance than them.

If they balance things around the current monk rdps the balance for the current savage will be broken...
everything will be overpowered too much, as much as i hate tuning down, fhey are needed sometime

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Originally Posted by Zerathor

It must be so heart breaking to hold cool downs and not burn them as soon as they come up for zero consequence... like every other job in the damn game. The tragedy... smn can't use "muh skill" to press a button once every 60 seconds to use their burst at their leisure in a fight. Imagine for a moment if any other job had that kind of nonsense.

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laughs in polyglot

It feels pretty good to save up stacks and triple foul the adds the e1s, meanwhile summoners are complaining if those adds die too fast they lose a phoenix due to bad timing. Or double tapping Leviathan with xenoglossy before he disappears, and then continuing to build charges and hearts during maelstrom while everyone else is holding cooldowns. Ah it's good to be the king, meanwhile the only thing those summoners have that has charges are their 40 potency egi assaults ahaha.

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Originally Posted by Myon88

laughs in polyglot

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ha yes, one strong gcd every 30 seconds was 100% equivalent to 3 ogcd's (which alone provided more than polygot, even now if that were still the case) that also fed dwt and bahamut. Totally. Thats more like pretending polygot reset leylines, and triple cast each tic. "Oh don't worry guys, my polygot will carry grand octet, for sure, 100% better than wyrm wave I swearsies. No, bahamut doesn't line up on that phase because it was tailored for summoner, its just coincidence, really"

Ah it's funny you bring up octet, I hear summoner's got it pretty bad in ucob now, there's no better example of how much of a liability their new design is than that.

Between all the downtime that now hurts their job design, egi assault traits not being fully active at 70 making them even more pointless, and no 1min bahamuts because that trait is at 72. It must feel truly miserable to play there now, so I'm glad I got that out of the way when the job was in a good state.

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Originally Posted by Myon88

Ah it's funny you bring up octet, I hear summoner's got it pretty bad in ucob now, there's no better example of how much of a liability their new design is than that.

Between all the downtime that now hurts their job design, egi assault traits not being fully active at 70 making them even more pointless, and no 1min bahamuts because that trait is at 72. It must feel truly miserable to play there now, so I'm glad I got that out of the way when the job was in a good state.

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I really don't feel any sympathy for a smn that didn't clear that fight in stormblood when it was made for them. Still, I find it odd that you even care about smn. You don't seem to care which job is in the meta, you'll just change to pick up whatever has the leading edge, which is pretty nice I must say. To flat out jump from ranged physical to smn soley for the advantage it had I presume, and to do well with it. That's nice adaptation without really caring what job you're on, so long as you're on the best current job. So really, what do you really care about the current state of smn? Did you just enjoy double weaving ogcds because it seemed more active when you weren't in r3 spam phase 66% of the time?

Oh yes I enjoy all the ranged and caster jobs in this game, so I'm quite happy to switch around if necessary. In order to progress fights quickly a solid raise caster player is the 2nd most important person after the healers, so better for it to be me than someone else. Likewise blm is amazing now so why wouldn't you play blm over rdm/smn, especially now that prog is over, I wouldn't be respecting my group's time otherwise.

But I also enjoy a balanced game, I have a soft spot for the underdogs after seeing what happened to machinist after heavensward, and of the 6 ranged and caster jobs only 1 is in a good spot right now.

DNC need some minor buffs like making Saber dance OGC or increased Potency for Standard/Technical finish for every weapon skill your dance partner uses during Step is active. :p

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Originally Posted by Myon88

But I also enjoy a balanced game, I have a soft spot for the underdogs after seeing what happened to machinist after heavensward, and of the 6 ranged and caster jobs only 1 is in a good spot right now.

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Good luck with that one since a not insignificant amount of people here think that physical and magical ranged roles should be worse than melee so that every raid brings 2 melee and only 1 physical ranged and 1 magical ranged.