Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

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Originally Posted by Lumidus

I think the only RNG here is if the fruit will proc the change in new feathers? If someone is just going buy someone else's # of fruit to get the color you wanted. It might not use the same # on your chocobo. Instead count the number of new feather change

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This message is not derived from a random chance when feeding your Chocobo, but from the moment when your Plumage's RGB values have successfully migrated from one Plumage colour range to another, which (unfortunately due to RNG) is something which we can't 100% know the exact values of.

Got to it from Kobold Brown via a single plum ^.^
http://i.imgur.com/eUEbH5Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SxovRue.jpg

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Originally Posted by Angelusdemonus

It *should* likely be Pumpkin Orange before Sunset Orange using only Apples from Millicorn Yellow.

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I ended up with Coeurl Yellow instead. XD

Geez I was hoping I was on the right track for Dalamud Red, too.

Coeurl Yellow has very saturated blue, so maybe I should try lightening? Or maybe I should stuff him with more apples...?

So far it's been:

Desert Yellow (Start)
6 apples, 9 pears, 3 berries -> Millicorn Yellow

1 apple -> Coeurl Yellow

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Originally Posted by Chaud

Got to it from Kobold Brown via a single plum ^.^
http://i.imgur.com/eUEbH5Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SxovRue.jpg

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Was at Kobold Brown, fed 1 Doman Plum, got the "beginning to grow new feathers" on first try. Got Ink Blue instead. Did Pineapples on Ink Blue, same result, got "growing new feathers" on first try, waited for 6 hours. Sent back to Kobold Brown. Something's not right here.

Proof of my results via chat log.

Starting Color : Kobold Brown
Chocobo Level: 10
Stable Condition: Fair
Feed Used: x1 Doman Plum
New Feathers: 1/1 Plums
Result: Ink Blue

[8:49 p.m.]Juju devours the Doman plum.
[8:49 p.m.]Juju's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[8:49 p.m.]Juju is beginning to grow new feathers!
Result: Ink Blue

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Originally Posted by Leonesaurus

Was at Kobold Brown, fed 1 Doman Plum, got the "beginning to grow new feathers" on first try. Got Ink Blue instead. Did Pineapples on Ink Blue, same result, got "growing new feathers on first try, waited for 6 hours. Sent back to Kobold Brown. Something's not right here.

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Your exact RGB values might not have been in the same range as the person above (there is a bit of RNG here). This could cause the issue that you're having with bouncing between Kobold/Ink Blue.

Yeah, I'm thinking it picks the color that is closest, on average, to the red, green, and blue values your chocobo is set to. Personally my color transitions went start -> slate grey -> Russet Brown -> Wine Red -> Dalamud Red -> Chestnut Brown -> Kobold Brown -> Soot Black.

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

Your exact RGB values might not have been in the same range as the person above (there is a bit of RNG here). This could cause the issue that you're having with bouncing between Kobold/Ink Blue.

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Then the questions begs an answer of, if people who learn how to get to Soot Black try to teach others the path to get there, how do you get everyone there without getting someone caught in a loop? Even though they're all reaching the same colors up until Soot Black? And then another question begs to be said, do we just keep bouncing back and forth until we get lucky via RNG or do we start over and make our way back there again somehow?

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Originally Posted by GavarKhai

that ended up giving me grape purple which is about 20 away in reds and blues and very close to the green value for soot black. what do you think i should feed it next?

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Alright, here's where it gets very tricky and will possible require some tweaking.

Current: Grape Purple
52R 26G 34B

Desired: Soot Black
37R 35G 30B

I would personally try:

x2 Mamook Pear
x1 O'Ghomoro Berry

Going off an average that the fruits will give +/-5 (which all I've used in all my past posts for ease of calculations) you should end up around 37R 31G 29B, give or take a few points.
If you don't receive "plumage color change" message, then we need to analyze were you might be in the dyes "color range".

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Kalandros

ive been going circles with ink blue midnight blue and kobold brown, hoping to break it into soot black :[

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Can I also ask I simple question, if you don't mind. I'm in the SAME EXACT boat as you. I've been following your progress in this thread for Soot Black, as I'm also after it. I've been at Kobold Brown multiple times now, as well as Ink Blue. I'm now at Midnight Blue. My question is, I want to reach Kobold Brown again, or eventually Deepwood Green to try out something, but I need to first go backwards to hit Ink Blue -> Kobold Brown. The answer I seek is, what fruits should I give my chocobo at Midnight Blue to get back to Ink Blue?

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Originally Posted by Leonesaurus

The the questions begs an answer of, if people who learn how to get to Soot Black try to teach others the path to get there, how do you get everyone there without getting someone caught in a loop? Even though they're all reaching the same colors up until Soot Black? And then another question begs to be said, do we just keep bouncing back and forth until we get lucky via RNG or do we start over and make our way back there again somehow?

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That's an exceptional question because it's doubtful that everyone is at the same inner RGB value. The closer you are in shades to a desired colour the more difficult it becomes to get that colour. The only suggestion to try to avoid a loop when you're close to your desired plumage colour is small controlled feeds of a single type of fruit. This way you're not mass adjusting multiple RGB levels.

If you hit Ink Blue again maybe try 2 pineapples and 1 valfruit to break the cycle; mileage may vary (don't hate me if I'm wrong).

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

That's an exceptional question because it's doubtful that everyone is at the same inner RGB value. The closer you are in shades to a desired colour the more difficult it becomes to get that colour. The only suggestion to try to avoid a loop when you're close to your desired plumage colour is small controlled feeds of a single type of fruit. This way you're not mass adjusting multiple RGB levels.

If you hit Ink Blue again maybe try 2 pineapples and 1 valfruit to break the cycle; mileage may vary (don't hate me if I'm wrong).

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Yeah, I just threw a bunch of stuff at it and went from Ink Blue -> Midnight Blue. Any suggestions at how to get back there? 2 Pineapples you think might be enough? I'm attempting to push myself back to Kobold to keep trying and see if it may really be RNG with attempts, or to figure out a way back to Deepwood Green from Kobold Brown, once I get back there to try the Valfruit strategy.

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Originally Posted by Torchic373

I ended up with Coeurl Yellow instead. XD

Geez I was hoping I was on the right track for Dalamud Red, too.

Coeurl Yellow has very saturated blue, so maybe I should try lightening? Or maybe I should stuff him with more apples...?

So far it's been:

Desert Yellow (Start)
6 apples, 9 pears, 3 berries -> Millicorn Yellow

1 apple -> Coeurl Yellow

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Yey for results.

Originally I had the following for the apple-only line of feeds:

Desert Yellow > Millicorn Yellow > Pumpkin Orange > Sunset Orange > Blood Red.

That was my path up the apple line (new feather x1, stop).

But reviewing back the pages, I learned Mesa Red can occur in between Sunset Orange and Blood Red, which clearly I didnt get.

So what happened in your case has two possibilities:

1) You got simply got a color that I skipped over on my feeding, which is a common occurrence.
2) Your previous feeds might have shifted your color line a bit different then a pure Apple feed.

I would maybe just do exclusively apples for the next feed to see where it gets you.

Btw, again not 100% (lets say 95%)...Blood Red + Berry till 1 new feathers *should* = Dalamud Red

EDIT: My test chocobo that was Blood Red just turned Dalamud Red with one Berry / new feather feed.

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Originally Posted by Leonesaurus

Yeah, I just threw a bunch of stuff at it and went from Ink Blue -> Midnight Blue. Any suggestions at how to get back there? 2 Pineapples you think might be enough? I'm attempting to push myself back to Kobold to keep trying and see if it may really be RNG with attempts, or to figure out a way back to Deepwood Green from Kobold Brown, once I get back there to try the Valfruit strategy.

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I would feed it pineapples until it procs the feather message, I think when it procs it means you've lowered your blue back down to the next available color, and there aren't any blues in between ink blue and midnight blue. Should be a couple pineapples at most I'd think, maybeeee three if two doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by Chaud

I would feed it pineapples until it procs the feather message, I think when it procs it means you've lowered your blue back down to the next available color, and there aren't any blues in between ink blue and midnight blue. Should be a couple pineapples at most I'd think, maybeeee three if two doesn't work.

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So, just a couple Pineapples or so? Nothing else? Ok! This is my current log so far... 1 sec...

Starting Color : Midnight Blue
Chocobo Level: 10
Stable Condition: Fair
Feed Used: x2 Cieldalaes Pineapple
New Feathers: 2/2 Pineapples
Result: ???

[9:02 p.m.]Juju devours the Cieldalaes pineapple.
[9:02 p.m.]Juju's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[9:02 p.m.]Juju is beginning to grow new feathers!
[10:12 p.m.]Juju devours the Cieldalaes pineapple.
[10:12 p.m.]Juju is beginning to grow new feathers!
[10:12 p.m.]Juju's plumage will change in 4 hours and 50 minutes.

My goal here is to back up to Kobold Brown once again. I was there a few times in the past. After coming from Deepwood Green originally. I used 1 Pineapple from Ink Blue before and hit Kobold Brown, so hopefully moves me back there via 2 Pineapples.

Been working on this for over 3days now... it isnt very pretty but... :D

http://i.imgur.com/1ussuy3.png

Ravenguard I know you have been helping people out and I was wondering if you would do the same for me. I don't have a lot of monetary resources in game but I do have access to the FC's gardening lot and so I have 30 of each of the color feeds. I haven't even started on my chocobo so it is standard color atm. My desired color is Soot black so I was wondering what would you suggest I feed to get that color? I previous poster said he was able to get soot black from Loam brown (which I got from the google doc spreadsheet) and I was thinking of following his footsteps since he was the world first soot black I believe.

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Originally Posted by Chaud

Yeah, I'm thinking it picks the color that is closest, on average, to the red, green, and blue values your chocobo is set to. Personally my color transitions went start -> slate grey -> Russet Brown -> Wine Red -> Dalamud Red -> Chestnut Brown -> Kobold Brown -> Soot Black.

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Yeah, that's what I think too.

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Originally Posted by corticarte

only 2 ppl ive seen on my server so far with black chocos

http://i.imgur.com/JxYccIS.png

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those are not black, that is the Ink Blue

I think I did indeed skip over a few colors. I searched through the thread and saw this post from Tinsley:

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these numbers are only the ones that gave me the plumes are changing prompt

1st feeding : +6 darken green = cream yellow
2nd feeding : +2 darken green = Honey yellow
3rd feeding : 6 darken red, 2 darken blue = coeurl yellow
4th feeding : 8 darken red, 10 darken blue = blood red

i want dalamud red but not sure what to feed now..

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It seems like the game does keep track of what you've feed previously. I had started with 6 apples, 9 pears, 3 berries.

She got Coeurl Yellow from 6 apples, 8 pears, 2 berries. In different feedings, but still. Interesting...

I just fed my choco 6 apples and 6 berries. Stopped when it finally gave me a proc. It's definitely different from her 8 apples, 10 berries. But I do have that extra pear and berry that's there somewhere. Hope I get similar results to her Blood Red.

After ending with with Currant Purple I decided to shoot for Rhotano Blue.

Currant Purple: Fed 6 Doman Plums, Procs on the last 5.
End result Rhotano Blue.
Stable Condition: Good

SS:
http://i.imgur.com/0Ka5rNN.png

http://i.imgur.com/ALTcHaJ.png

Current color- Chestnut brown
desired color- scoot black
any advise? plz help!!!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...60825529_n.jpg

Was obv on my way to get soot black but stumbled upon Currant purple. Thought it looked sick so I might stick with this for a bit. :D

My path of progression is as follows, with the number of feather messages given per fruit fed:

Desert Yellow->Millioncorn Yellow (1/1 Xelphatol Apple)
Millioncorn Yellow->Pumpkin Orange (0/9 Xelphatol Apples, 1/1 O'Ghomoro Berry)
Pumpkin Orange->Sunset Orange (0/10 Xelphatol Apples, 1/1 O'Ghomoro Berry)
Sunset Orange-> ??? (0/10 Xelphatol Apples, 1/2 O'Ghomoro Berries)

I'm expecting Blood Red, given the previous results others have posted. I'm undecided between Dalamud, Rolanberry, and Wine Red currently as to what I want.

Got my Dalamud Red an hour ago :) Many times messing up while reading this forum. But the total count was 43 Apples, 10 pears, 15 Berries, and 5 Valfruit. (Dont remember the order in which I did it. many mistakes were made :P)
http://i.imgur.com/84AeGQI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2WLJujB.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ravenguard

Alright, here's where it gets very tricky and will possible require some tweaking.

Current: Grape Purple
52R 26G 34B

Desired: Soot Black
37R 35G 30B

I would personally try:

x2 Mamook Pear
x1 O'Ghomoro Berry

Going off an average that the fruits will give +/-5 (which all I've used in all my past posts for ease of calculations) you should end up around 37R 31G 29B, give or take a few points.
If you don't receive "plumage color change" message, then we need to analyze were you might be in the dyes "color range".

Good luck!

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fed two pears, got the plumage change message after the first, and one berry which gave me the growing new feathers message. we will see how this ends up in six hours when i get up for work.

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/...7b&oe=5468976C
Currant purple in the daytime!

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Originally Posted by sr7olsniper

Ravenguard I know you have been helping people out and I was wondering if you would do the same for me. I don't have a lot of monetary resources in game but I do have access to the FC's gardening lot and so I have 30 of each of the color feeds. I haven't even started on my chocobo so it is standard color atm. My desired color is Soot black so I was wondering what would you suggest I feed to get that color? I previous poster said he was able to get soot black from Loam brown (which I got from the google doc spreadsheet) and I was thinking of following his footsteps since he was the world first soot black I believe.

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Having the FC garden will help you greatly to save a bit of Gil while you tweak your Chocobo's plumage. I would recommend you buy one of every seed type (all six) and fertilize them with some Grade3 Shroud soil (if you have a miner) for some high yield to play around with.

I assume you haven't fed anything to your Chocobo to change his initial plumage from Desert Yellow. That would start with Very High REDs, High GREENs, and low BLUEs.

So to start, you're going to want to drastically lower those GREENs and REDs using BLUE DEEPEN'ers (O'Ghomoro Berry). This will have the adverse effect of raising your BLUEs, however getting all three colors around the same value will make the voyage to Soot Black a little easier. If you add in a few apples and pears into the mix, it should slow down your BLUEs from getting too high in the process.

I would try this for my initial feeding:

x12 O'Ghomoro Berry
x6 Mamook Pear
x6 Xelphatol Apple

At the very least, this will put you much closer to your goal, then we can decide what to feed him to direct this new color toward your desired color of Soot Black.

Husband gave his chocobo 15 doman plums and got 1 feather message from default and all in one sitting. It came out ice blue. I gave him another doman plum that he then fed and received another feather message. Waiting to see what color pops out.

54 berries, 49 apples and pears got me Midnight Blue

Yes I currently have one of each seen in the garden all with Grade 3 Shroud soil. They will soon be harvestable and that's when I want to go. For initial feeading do you mean all those 3 at once? or like feed berrys first, wait a bit then mamook, or do you do 1 by one? Sorry havnt even touched the feeding of fear of screwing it up

ok, I'm confuzzled. I've been stuck on salmon pink for two cycles of feedings now… I'm trying to get to snow white, but nothing seems to be changing it from Salmon Pink at this point.

2o O'Ghomoro Berry 20 Mamook Pear 20 Xelphatol Apple = Mesa Red

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Originally Posted by sr7olsniper

Yes I currently have one of each seen in the garden all with Grade 3 Shroud soil. They will soon be harvest-able and that's when I want to go. For initial feeding do you mean all those 3 at once? or like feed berry's first, wait a bit then mamook, or do you do 1 by one? Sorry haven't even touched the feeding of fear of screwing it up

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You want to feed him everything all at once for this first feed cycle. After feeding all the fruit above, wait for the plumage change to occur in six hours.
While feeding him the fruit, you should see at least one "feathers have changed" message (though more is definitely likely).

Anyone have advice for Royal Blue to Ink Blue?

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

Desired Color: Grape Purple
52R, 36G, 54B

Your last feed (Qiqirn Brown) you managed to drop your Green/Blue but increase your Red. Your next feed should be again something like:

x10 Berries
x10 Pears

This is going to drop your Red while keeping Green and Blue consistent. This should probably put you at a dark green colour (possibly something like Ochu). Once you get to that point, repost the colour you receive and we can take another look. From there it should be a matter of dropping Green while maintaining Red/Blue.

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Wow, you were spot on! Ochu green he is haha. What should be my next move? Also, thank you for the help!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...psff15e388.png

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Originally Posted by venom0713

Wow, you were spot on! Ochu green he is haha. What should be my next move? Also, thank you for the help!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...psff15e388.png

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w00t! You're welcome. :)

Current Colour: Ochu Green
57R 92G 51B

Destination Colour: Grape Purple
52R 36G 54B


Alrighty, from here try the following:

x6 Apples
x6 Berries

This combo should result in a RGB of around 57R, 32G, 51B and should push you into Grape Purple range. For Science!

OK so Im at Abyssal Blue -- 43 39 80

Correct me if I'm wrong Im going to use

Pineapples x 11 , Plums x 3 , and Valfruit x 2

What do you think Syrhen?

Hey everyone, I need some help with trying to go for Marsh Green.
I hit Lime Green with my first color change, but then I got antsy and added too many Mamook Pears, some Xelphatol Apples, and maybe a Valfruit or two, and it ended up Honey Yellow >_>;

Decided it would probably be better to only feed enough to get one new feathers message sort of creep little by little to try and control the color changes more and go from there.
I added some Domam Plums to lighten red since I think all of the hex numbers have to be lower to hit Marsh Green, and I ended up with Cream Yellow.
Added a few more Domam Plums and now I'm at Lime Green again.
Now I don't know what to do because going from Cream Yellow to Lime Green only took about 4~6 Domam Plums.
I don't want to overshoot and end up with a blue.
Any advice?

From Desert Yellow used Xelphatol fruit x2 (one feather message) to Millioncorn Yellow.
From Millioncorn Yellow used O'Ghomoro berry x12 (11 feather messages) to Lilac Purple.

What can I expect if I add a few Mamook Pears?

Color Mapping Project has some possible pathways to getting the colors you want. I'm working to gather data and fill in all the missing parts.

I'm going with occam's razor regarding the chocobo coloring. It's far simpler to assume it uses the usual tactics of HQ procs/ Good and Excellent/Failure methods. The flaw of the system right now is that you see "growing new feathers" after each feeding following the 1st message received (unless you switch snacks, and then begins again)- so that means you have absolutely no idea which ones "proc" or "fail". I don't think SE has gone to the trouble of tracking past feedings/rgb changes to each and every chocobo in existence. With all things, though, I could be wrong.