No trailer at E3 LOL @ SE

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Originally Posted by Morningstar

Why are you assuming a trailer needs to be half ass CGI?

Why can't the trailer consist of actual gameplay footage, the new redesigned landscapes and the new graphics engine??

If SE didn't want to show us a crappy CGI trailer then how come that's what they made?

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Because they don't have ingame engine polished to the lvl they want. 2.0 is still months away. And e3 is only at week away. Cgi trailers are easier to do and require an external company. Ingame stuff would take their time , which they don't have. I prefer to get a good and polished beta 2.0 in September / october than a cgi trailer or ingame half baked trailer at E3.

Btw, want a sneak peak of 2.0 trailer that didn't show up at e3? Open your game, at login screen, press movie. There you go. That's exactly why they cancelled the trailer. It would be the same or worse than the one we have for th actual game. Which is pretty amazing btw, but that doesn't reflect at all the game.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

As a counter towards the opinion that websites are bashing SE left and right for this, Siliconera posted a pretty neutral stance on this whole matter. In fact, they didn't even talk about it as such as severe case - they focused more on WHAT the letter was actually about. And the comments aren't harsh at all.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/05/28...l-fantasy-xiv/

Meanwhile, the Kotaku comments....even viewers think that website post was uncharacteristally negative and disgustingly butthurt about the whole matter.

http://pc.rpgsite.net/news/1701-fina...ler-to-skip-e3

RPGsite also expresses a similarly neutral approach to the whole matter. While yes, they expressed some form of discontent with the trailer not being at 2.0, they still provide a positive outlook on that SE is being transparent with their roadmaps and other PDFs.

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2012/05...g-shown-at-e3/

Somewhat a bit more negative, but understandable in that they are confused with what is being shown or not. Nonetheless, they are still going to keep up with the information, and leaving this matter behind which many of you can't seem to.

So to OP: aside from Kotaku, I can't seem to find any other website outright bashing the move. Disappointed and confused? Yes. But they are nonetheless still supportive of this whole idea.

EDIT: I should add that the searching for such sites took less than ten minutes. It's funny how a little bit of research can be used to dispel a whole array of coments such as the 'massive negativity' which apparently the whole world wide web holds for this announcement...

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It's a tactic used to further ones opinion, they'll pick out the articles that support their opinion but hide the articles that go against their opinion. It's used everywhere so it's not surprised you'll see people doing it here. It's really hard to find information that is analytical since 90% of the time people will take a more opinionated view on it and submit it as facts.

it is nice to see the majority of sites don't seem so concerned over the lack of a trailer and actually realize that it's still a week away before they should truly hold their opinions over it. I think a majority of the sites understand that the only way you can realty give your opinion on this issue is after E3, the negative comments coming from this news letter is all but pure speculation based on what we've heard. It just seems rather pointless to get all fired up assuming the worse when you could save yourself the heart attack and blood pressure rising by just being patient another week.

I'm disappointed, but only because I'm confused by what they plan to tell us at E3. So I'll just wait to see what we learn next week :)

Still no damage control? I honestly think that ambiguous mess needs clarity.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Self righteous whining

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I find it hilarious that you link Kotaku. That removes any credibility that you might have had. It baffles me that people still think of them as a credible source for anything.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

As a counter towards the opinion that websites are bashing SE left and right for this, Siliconera posted a pretty neutral stance on this whole matter. In fact, they didn't even talk about it as such as severe case - they focused more on WHAT the letter was actually about. And the comments aren't harsh at all.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/05/28...l-fantasy-xiv/

Meanwhile, the Kotaku comments....even viewers think that website post was uncharacteristally negative and disgustingly butthurt about the whole matter.

http://pc.rpgsite.net/news/1701-fina...ler-to-skip-e3

RPGsite also expresses a similarly neutral approach to the whole matter. While yes, they expressed some form of discontent with the trailer not being at 2.0, they still provide a positive outlook on that SE is being transparent with their roadmaps and other PDFs.

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2012/05...g-shown-at-e3/

Somewhat a bit more negative, but understandable in that they are confused with what is being shown or not. Nonetheless, they are still going to keep up with the information, and leaving this matter behind which many of you can't seem to.

So to OP: aside from Kotaku, I can't seem to find any other website outright bashing the move. Disappointed and confused? Yes. But they are nonetheless still supportive of this whole idea.

EDIT: I should add that the searching for such sites took less than ten minutes. It's funny how a little bit of research can be used to dispel a whole array of coments such as the 'massive negativity' which apparently the whole world wide web holds for this announcement...

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I feel a ViciousValentine white knight comment arriving soon.

Anyway, I did a quick search after he posted the kotaku article. It's true, the majority of the comments are labeling it as one comment said, "Unjust Hatred". The guy that was against FFXIV even said that even if it was good he hopes it never succeeds. Say a lot for people like him. The rest of the gaming sites also talk about how, while there is some disappointment, they are still going to do interviews for 2.0 at E3.

More like loltaku!

Am I right, fellas, or am I right?

Doesnt the PR dept at se know that they can talk til the end of time about what they are adding and what to expect in 2.0 but if they dont have something big and flashy to catch ppls attn they are going to loose out on alot?

A movie would be a good idea, even if its cgi and even if its just a teaser. Any movie director could go on a tv show and talk about his new film but if he doesnt have a trailer it wont do much good. I think they are going for an anticipation factor but this is not a good time to place bets

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

Doesnt the PR dept at se know that they can talk til the end of time about what they are adding and what to expect in 2.0 but if they dont have something big and flashy to catch ppls attn they are going to loose out on alot?

A movie would be a good idea, even if its cgi and even if its just a teaser. Any movie director could go on a tv show and talk about his new film but if he doesnt have a trailer it wont do much good. I think they are going for an anticipation factor but this is not a good time to place bets

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ya i agree just talking and doing interviews not going to get new players

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Probably because MMO's aren't really the most exciting genre of game to watch in video form. Nobody would have been hyped about FFXI if they just showed 6 people wailing on a crab with a menu open, or hyped about FFXIV if there was a sweet montage of people crafting or gathering.

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That's why I found XI's trailers "perfect" in a sense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qj4BKpDUZ4&hd=1