with this mindset the future looks dim

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Originally Posted by Assirra

Oh wow, i am trying to imagine you explaining twin, now that would be a goddam sight.
And here i stop arguing because the only thing you do now is insulting everyone who does not agree with you.

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One thing I hate seeing on this forum is people seriously insulting people for their typing. That's downright rude and she even
tells you [whether true or not] she has Dyslexia. Not only that, you're cussing and insulting far more than you said she was, if she was at all, I didn't see it.
Please don't make fun of peoples typing, you can simply ignore it or try to understand them without joking on them.


Seriously, this topic itself down-spiraled because people love to control what people
want to do on this game and forget DF is a random hellhole or heaven.
You use PF, or you deal with people in DF. That's it. Don't tell others what to do.

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Originally Posted by Suniva

It does go both ways. Just as I can, or you can, or ANYONE ELSE CAN, use the DF, the PF to find like minded individuals to game to their play style. You don't seem to want to use PF, that is why I made my initial point to begin with. Why are you trying to argue with me about everything? I am not trying to argue, but make points for you to see that you can go about playing the game exactly how you want to and there doesn't need to be arguing about it. But you seem to want to argue with everyone for some reason.

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I use PF when i see learning party or dungeon i did many time .. cos the far i went is T4 ..but with update i just want new gear and lvl craft for personal house before do other coil.
I just think that DF was made for everyone .. i know some new people are like :" i tell them advise in dungeon and they get mad cos they don't like it" ..i had some people like that, then we got wipe and i tell them ..thats happen do you want i give you advice and they accept after its goes well ....and in SR there some dungoen i did many time ... and i still get yell ..... some people are Leave the ADD stay on boss cos healer is strong .... but next party is Healer and tank yelling on me ...kill ADD cos healer got kill ...but WTH its the same dungeon. but brayflox i did it like 50 time ..and every run its totaly different SR.


but the more i see it .. i will start making party for learning ...first there will learning people will be happy to see learning party ...and no more people drop off party cos they wanted people who saw youtube and after i did the dungeon or coil .. then ill do DF

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Originally Posted by Bizniztyme

Funny how people call themselves hardcore then have to go watch a video to beat a fight. Also, calling other people lazy for not watching a video when watching the video is taking the lazy way out and then have the nerve to call the game easy. Too funny. :)

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Best comment in the thread. "Hey I am an elite player, let me watch how someone else does the fight."

Gamers don't game anymore, they just watch videos; even while using technology; technology has made us lazy "Shrugs."

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Originally Posted by Assirra

I heard a LOT of people try to talk english but i NEVER EVER heard someone comparing youtube to mother and try to make an argument out of it.
That is the only thing i was talking about. I know my english is bad (not native either). Sorry if i came over like that.
Anyway, i am leaving this thread now. HF arguing people.

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Yeah like that was allowed too calling us kids who dont listen to mom ??? refering mom to who ... you guys ....

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

So this thread has boiled down to:

Side A: Raid content requires prior research to save wasted time in duty finder
Side B: Shut up mom! I do whatever I want! No one tells me to watch a video or read a guide!
Side A: Ok then I will not party with you and waste my time when I came prepared and you did not
Side B: Elitist jerk!

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For anyone on side B, please stop talking about low level dungeons or storymode dungeons when it comes to reading guides or watching videos. Side A is only referring to end game raid & progression content. Nobody cares if you didn't read a guide or watched a video for Cape Westwind or Praeratorium.

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You just have something against me not interest in video and want to prove that your right we are force to watch video ..but sorry i wont

Not really if i'm in the 1st groups who go blind then make guides for the sake of others then i do so without any guides.

If i am not then 1 my guild/fc etc will most likely make it mandatory that the raiding groups look up tactics etc. 2 I tank, my mentality as a tank is to what ever is within my ability to make the fight go well and progress.

Out of all roles tanks get the most crap for not preparing. so if that makes me elitist then frankly I don't give a shit.

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Originally Posted by YeaniNah

You just have something against me not interest in video and want to prove that your right we are force to watch video ..but sorry i wont

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No one has anything against you, stop playing the victim card.
People are trying to give you helpful advice about how to play better with others but you just claim they're attacking you and forcing you to do things you don't want to do.
If you are getting yelled at in dungeons, you need to step back and think maybe its not all the others that's the problem.

p.s. I looked at your lodestone achievements, you have not cleared any ex primals or coil turn 5. Please come back and tell us how your "going in blind" worked out. You say that you don't need videos to clear this stuff right? Cool, that's awesome. I'd love to hear about your experience with clearing all of these in duty finder without reading a single guide or video.

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Originally Posted by YeaniNah

.. i know some new people are like you tell them advise they get mad ..

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When have I gotten mad? I am not mad here.
And yes, DF IS made for EVERYONE. You have to be prepared to encounter ALL sorts of people, nice ones, jerks, eltists, hardcores, EVERYONE. Expecting everyone of them to cater to YOUR needs, is no better than them expecting everyone to cater to theirs. And each run is going to be different. Different gear levels can mean different strategies for certain fights. Communication is key. There is a lot more nerd raging than there is actual communication in dungeons. Another problem. But -shrug- It is like this in every MMO. People stand arguing for one side or the other, and not even acknowledging the middle...It is lonely in the middle.
-whimper-

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Originally Posted by Suniva

When have I gotten mad? I am not mad here.
And yes, DF IS made for EVERYONE. You have to be prepared to encounter ALL sorts of people, nice ones, jerks, eltists, hardcores, EVERYONE. Expecting everyone of them to cater to YOUR needs, is no better than them expecting everyone to cater to theirs. And each run is going to be different. Different gear levels can mean different strategies for certain fights. Communication is key. There is a lot more nerd raging than there is actual communication in dungeons. Another problem. But -shrug- It is like this in every MMO. People stand arguing for one side or the other, and not even acknowledging the middle...It is lonely in the middle.
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you misunderstood ^^ sorry ill correct it :) i use "you" for all wait i meant sometime new people in dungeon get mad at people cos they dont like receive advise and i know its not fun but like if you reread my post correction.after a wipe i ask them again if they want my advice ^^.but i still try to help them :D

i wasnt saying you mad at me ^^

sometime i can easely ... update my post many time even after reread it before posting it .. sorry but i'm working on it -.-

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

p.s. I looked at your lodestone achievements, you have not cleared any ex primals or coil turn 5. Please come back and tell us how your "going in blind" worked out. You say that you don't need videos to clear this stuff right? Cool, that's awesome. I'd love to hear about your experience with clearing all of these in duty finder without reading a single guide or video.

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hum if you read my post clearly you would have seen that im getting the new gear ilvl 100 with soldier tomes and lvling my craft for personal house ... for those end game i use Raidcall with my FC cos they welcome and they know i learn fast that how i did coil 1 to 4 :) so please before judging from a site .. please ask about my real interest ^^ thank you