Instanced Raids Unveiled!

... level cap does not mean r50 can't enter but it mean that r50 will be lower to r30

A couple JPN posts about the difficulty of the dungeons. What I'm reading sounds pretty good so far. I like a challenge.

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Originally Posted by Foxclon

こんにちは。

今回実装されるレイドダンジョンは、一言で言えば「高難易度」と想定されています。中でも特に皆さんが気にされているボスモンスターの難易度について、開発チームと確認してきました。

ゼメール要塞の場合ですと、特技ランク50の8人PTが役割を明確にしたうえで、且つ単に通常の敵の強い版ということではなく、ボスモンスターにあった専用の戦い方をしないと倒すことができないとのことでした。

私自身もまだ触れていませんが、これは楽しみですね :cool:

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The upcoming dungeons are estimated to be, in a nutshell, "really hard". I also confirmed the dungeon boss's difficulty with the dev team.

If you ever hope to defeat The Dzemael Darkhold dungeon boss, you will need to clearly assign roles amongst your specialized party of 8 rank 50 players. Furthermore, you can't just think of the boss as just a strong version of an ordinary monster. You will need to use special, boss-specific strategies to achieve victory.

I haven't played it myself yet, but I am looking forward to it :cool:

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Originally Posted by Foxclon

こんにちは。

レイドダンジョンの人数制限に関して、吉田Pと確認してきました。

パッチ1.18で追加される予定のレイドダンジョンの人数制限は

• トトラクの千獄：4人PT限定
• ゼーメル要塞：8人PT限定

となっています。

ここでいう「4人PT限定」というのは、「4人でPTを組んでいる必要がある」の意味で、4人以外（例えば3人PTや5人PT）では入場することができません。8人の場合も同様です。

今 回の初のレイドダンジョンの導入に当たっては、バランス調整の観点およびサーバー負荷の観点から、上記のような決め打ちの人数制限となっていますが、今後 実装していくものに関しては、実際に1.18でプレイしていただいたフィードバックや利用頻度／状況などを踏まえ、人数制限に関しても様々なバリエーショ ンのものが実装されていく予定です。

なお吉田より、「8人PT限定のゼーメル要塞のボスからの報酬は相当良いものですので、是非ともトライしてみてください！」とのことでした。

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I confirmed the party member limit with Yoshi-P.

The party member limits for the dungeons introduced in patch 1.18 is:

• The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak: 4-man limit
• The Dzemael Darkhold: 8-man limit

This means that for the 4-man dungeon, you must be in a party of 4 and only 4. If you are in a party that has over or under 4 members, you will not be allowed in the dungeon. Same goes for the 8-man dungeon.

We have decided on those hard-coded party member limits for now due to balance and server load concerns as a starting point. We will then gather feedback and input from the players as they play through the content in patch 1.18 so that we can further experiment with the party member limit and try to incorporate more variation into the game.

YoshiP says, "The 8-man party dungeon, "Dzemael Darkhold", has a reeeaaallly good boss drop, so please try it out!"

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

and its possibly 2 hours a day
that adds up quick you know


a dungeon in wow takes 3 hours to complete, and they can only be done once a week....technicaly, thats even worse

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Never playing Warcraft; I still feel that playing the same dungeon over and over just because it can be done daily instead of weekly is very unappealing.

As a multiple R50 player who is waiting patiently, starting over on yet another class just to enjoy one low level dungeon isn't appealing either.

...again i hope they are hiding something...more...

Also, confirmation from a dev on the french forums that dungeons will be UNCAPPED: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...331#post192331

Thank you SE!

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Originally Posted by Katie

Never playing Warcraft; I still feel that playing the same dungeon over and over just because it can be done daily instead of weekly is very unappealing.

As a multiple R50 player who is waiting patiently, starting over on yet another class just to enjoy one low level dungeon isn't appealing either.

...again i hope they are hiding something...more...

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well its a start
we also have the upcoming ifrit battle to look forward to also
and thats not counting future planned content

its unfortunately the nature of the mmo that it does take time to add dungeons and such, so you wont get them just shooting out on a bi weekly basis

but this is a start

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

Also, confirmation from a dev on the french forums that dungeons will be UNCAPPED: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...331#post192331

Thank you SE!

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Hmm. Welp, that doesn't bode well for game balance and content longevity, but perhaps it won't turn out as bad as the rank 35 NMs did.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Hmm. Welp, that doesn't bode well for game balance and content longevity, but perhaps it won't turn out as bad as the rank 35 NMs did.

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it isnt about game balance and longevity

its a mid rank dungeon, not endgame

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Hmm. Welp, that doesn't bode well for game balance and content longevity, but perhaps it won't turn out as bad as the rank 35 NMs did.

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Personally I feel that leaving the dungeon uncapped will encourage more people to play it rather than vice-versa.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

its unfortunately the nature of the mmo that it does take time to add dungeons and such, so you wont get them just shooting out on a bi weekly basis

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Yep, which is why they need to implement the means to foster more player-driven content so that players can entertain each other without having to rely on the devs to feed them all the time.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Yep, which is why they need to implement the means to foster more player-driven content so that players can entertain each other without having to rely on the devs to feed them all the time.

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the only MMO currently on the market doing this(to an extent that doesnt break the game, im looking at you city of heroes!) is lego universe