ARR Gil Cap Reduction

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Originally Posted by TheFrozenOne

I see where you're coming from but I have no horse in the race either way, I'm not 'raging' that all of our gil is getting cut into 1/10th, I've never said I was going to quit. I just don't get the justification of why they're doing it in the first place. They say it's based off of arrow prices and that since arrows are going away they're cutting everything 90%. It just seem like a very vague and honestly odd reason to justify cutting everyone's gil by 90%. If they just said "We want to lose the extra digit, you're losing 90% of your gil but everything is also losing 90% of its value, we're SE so ya know deal with it" it'd be more upfront than some explantion involving arrows, because according to them, that's the only reason they're doing it.

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They want to bring the values of items down to more realistic levels, and eliminate the extra 000's. Have you ever found it odd that a level 16 tool from an NPC can cost as much as 160,000 Gil? Who in the beejezus is going to pay for that, especially a new player? How about for 16k though? That seems more realistic. There is so much Gil in the economy that is takes a mass hoard of it to have any value. Where as with the new system (or the denomination) Gil will have a higher value than it does now.

I admit first reading the news i was like WTF!? but after actually thinking about it in my head (for about 30 seconds) you do realize what SE is getting at with this when the game first came out i had 2 million by the end of the first two weeks a feat that took around 5 months of solid money making in ffxi to achieve when i first started playing. When i had this 2 million gil in ffxiv i can remember saying to my sister "two million is like 200k in ffxi prices are really high" you can see that the economy is screwed up when dodo skins a drop from a low level monster around two of the major towns are 1k-2k each on the AH and are used in low level crafting a new player is not going to spend 1k-2k each a skin that should be worth 100gil for how easy they are to get and the volume of which a crafter needs.

Nothing has changed the rich are still rich and the poor are poor.

We need to ask for a ARR Collector's Edition that includes a math textbook.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

They want to bring the values of items down to more realistic levels, and eliminate the extra 000's. Have you ever found it odd that a level 16 tool from an NPC can cost as much as 160,000 Gil? Who in the beejezus is going to pay for that, especially a new player? How about for 16k though? That seems more realistic. There is so much Gil in the economy that is takes a mass hoard of it to have any value. Where as with the new system (or the denomination) Gil will have a higher value than it does now.

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Yes but if everything is going to be going down at the same rate, the time it would get to get that 16k would be the same as it takes to get the 160k...so nothing changes the number just looks smaller, if it changes nothing then what's the point? New players are going to get 1/10 the gil we get now so they'll see that 16k and be like "Wow why is that 16k?". It doesn't make getting the gil any easier or makes anything cheaper and it's only reducing one 0.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

They want to bring the values of items down to more realistic levels, and eliminate the extra 000's. Have you ever found it odd that a level 16 tool from an NPC can cost as much as 160,000 Gil? Who in the beejezus is going to pay for that, especially a new player? How about for 16k though? That seems more realistic. There is so much Gil in the economy that is takes a mass hoard of it to have any value. Where as with the new system (or the denomination) Gil will have a higher value than it does now.

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LOL i was told by someone else eariler that we shouldnt worry about that because all the rich players will make all those poor little newbies cheap weapons when the time comes. SHould have asked him to pass me what he was smoking on.

A tempest in a teapot. Prices self-correct within a short period of time, and with 2.0 coming out odds are pretty good they'll either wipe the price history entirely or adjust it commensurate with the re-denomination.

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Originally Posted by TheFrozenOne

Yes but if everything is going to be going down at the same rate, the time it would get to get that 16k would be the same as it takes to get the 160k...so nothing changes the number just looks smaller, if it changes nothing then what's the point? New players are going to get 1/10 the gil we get now so they'll see that 16k and be like "Wow why is that 16k?". It doesn't make getting the gil any easier or makes anything cheaper and it's only reducing one 0.

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If a potion costs 10 gil, but takes 2 minutes to make (gil). Or a potion takes 100,000,000 gil, but takes 2 minutes to make (gil).

Which system would you prefer to look at. Which system looks like the inflation god just took a giant dump on it?

You can say its perspective, makes things look better. Or you can say SE is hiding the bad economy, ^_^.

Either way it will look better and put more value in the larger numbers as they are harder to reach.

It's actually Louisoix's teleportation fee. Sneaky, sneaky Elezen.

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Originally Posted by Trotsky

Who the $@#& cares about NPC prices?

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I do. And buying a, say, level 10 sword for a few thousand Gil is just weird. I always felt like the last digit should be removed for prices to make more sense. I am happy that Yoshi seems to feel the same way.

Like many have said, nothing really changes except the value of Gil will INCREASE in ARR. The shock of 10mil gil reduced to 1mil can be well... shocking lol, but all in all with the reduction to all mechanics (i.e. NPC prices, Market Ward prices etc...) it will make it much more enjoyable in the end.