Cash shop confirmed

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Originally Posted by Aylis

https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/game/wow

I dunno where your seeing xp potions or valor point potions on the list of things on the cash shop. The level 90 boost is shown under character services and is an entirely different category then the vanity stuff which makes up 90% of the list of things for sale and no way effects the game what-so-ever.

Also Warcraft is an older game and does have to take steps to maintain its player base. the same might happen to XIV when it reaches Warcrafts age, but for now I wouldn't worry.

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http://www.wowhead.com/spell=146939/...isdom#comments

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"First, we’ll be testing the in-game store with some new kinds of items we’re looking into introducing (in Asian regions, at the outset) based on player feedback: specifically, an experience buff to assist with the leveling process, as well as an alternate way to acquire Lesser Charms of Good Fortune. We’ve had a lot of requests from players in different regions for convenience-oriented items such as these, and as with other new ideas we’ve introduced as WoW has evolved—including Pet Store pets, mounts, and more—your feedback plays a hugely important part in determining what we add to the game."

The xp potion is available (iirc) in the Asian reigns. And i have no doubt that when WoD is in the middle of its life span and everyone is waiting for the XP nerf that blizzard has done every expansion they will be buyable in the NA/EU reign.

The level 90 boosts are sold in the same shop as the vanity items, the fact that they are under a different category doesn't mean it is not a cash shop item. If they added BiS raid gear to the cash shop but put in under character service would you not agree?

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

Its.... a.... business.

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say what now

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Originally Posted by Aylis

https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/game/wow

I dunno where your seeing xp potions or valor point potions on the list of things on the cash shop. The level 90 boost is shown under character services and is an entirely different category then the vanity stuff which makes up 90% of the list of things for sale and no way effects the game what-so-ever.

Also Warcraft is an older game and does have to take steps to maintain its player base. the same might happen to XIV when it reaches Warcrafts age, but for now I wouldn't worry.

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Oh my. It is really in a different category. You even have to scroll down twice. This changes everything.

Cash shops are unacceptable in P2P games. This game is going in a bad direction, and those paying for things we should already be getting will be the downfall of it. It's true; I don't need those items, but I also don't need to play your game.

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Originally Posted by Mirili

I've never seen these forums so full of doomsayer-prophets. And that's really saying something.

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F2P games have proven to be financially successful, e.g. league of legends. If FF 14 were to go F2P, I am sure that it would do well.

Now, I suspect that the advent of this cash shop is a sign of biblical proportions. The end may indeed be upon us subscription players, in order to bring forth the coming of the F2P era.

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Originally Posted by gorror

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That's still a terrible argument, I have played LOTS of Free 2 Play games and I actually have knowledge of the workings of the Cash Shop...it doesn't work that way unless the BUSINESS chooses to make it that way along with how the playerbase itself chooses it.

The people playing WoW most likely ASKED for those options because that's how they are and Blizzard obliged, that doesn't mean it will work here or any other F2P game. TERA has a Cash Shop since going F2P...and they sell only vanity items you can still sell to people for Gold. Vindictus(another F2P) has at worse convenience items. It depends on the playerbase itself, not just the business.

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Originally Posted by IveraIvalice

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You forgot fearmongering, which you guys are clearly doing. And you pay $13-15 to PLAY the game, that's how P2P works. You saying that it MUST be to access all content in the game(when most well-known F2P games do the same), that is kinda elitist. Paying for minions and mounts SHOULD NOT be a huge issue and I have no reason how people are even equating it to content is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

There is no fairness involved. The entitlement of these threads is staggering. Its.... a.... business. Its not a not-for-profit whatever that is the becon of fairness to the world.... its a videogame designed to make the publisher of said game $$$MONEY$$$. They aren't here to be fair, its to make money. Stop all this whining and either play the game or don't. Its like those damn "Welp... I'm leaving" threads.... no one cares.

#firstworldproblems

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Last time I checked this 'business' was already making money, from monthly subscription fee's. Maintaining a good relationship with customers is vital to any business, and is what stops said customer from taking their business elsewhere, in which case said business would be losing '$$MONEY$$'

Final Fantasy XIV is not the only MMO on the market, not by a long shot. SE are walking a thin line on this one.

...the problem is not even the cash shop itself, although I do agree that it's just not right in a game that already has a subscription fee...

The problem is the fact that, yes, now they say it's vanity stuff only - but until when? Please look forward to remember other things they also said and then did the exact opposite, we don't even have to go back far in the past, just think of personal housing.

...I'm getting really worried about this game and it makes me sad because I still love it to bits, just like I have since 1.0 alphas...

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Originally Posted by gorror

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=146939/...isdom#comments

The level 90 boosts are sold in the same shop as the vanity items, the fact that they are under a different category doesn't mean it is not a cash shop item. If they added BiS raid gear to the cash shop but put in under character service would you not agree?

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My original post still holds, being in testing does not equate to being in game, I'm sorry.

My original post also stands in regards to Warcraft being an older game and needing to take steps to maintain its player base. EverQuest 1 which was very very notorious for selling power such as xp potions on it market place is no different. Both being very old games. As I said before maybe this will happen in XIV's distant future but for now I wouldn't worry.

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Originally Posted by KenzieLynch

Last time I checked this 'business' was already making money, from monthly subscription fee's. Maintaining a good relationship with customers is vital to any business, and is what stops said customer from taking their business elsewhere, in which case said business would be losing '$$MONEY$$'

It's amusing that people always paint the most crudest picture of a corporation when talking about things like this. Too many movies and marxist novels I suspect.

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And last I checked Final Fantasy XIV makes so much money it helped Square Enix turn around $130m loses into $40m profit in 1 year. It's greed. Plain and simple. Slepnir was going to be a drop from Odin, very likely. They decided to cut it out of the game and sell it on the shop for more money.