Instanced Raids Unveiled!

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Originally Posted by Elexia

I'm pretty sure I've been playing FFXIV off and on since Alpha around may of last year.

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Since CB for me. Came back after they announced big new patch so I'm hoping it's Super! That's sorta how most people playing are. Play for patch, get bored, stop playing, come back for new patch...

The content they have been releasing isn't bad, just not enough at once. You can get through it all within a week or 2, maybe less.

I think that's where a lot of the impatience and malcontent is. We have sidequests but not a lot, we have NMs, but not a lot. I remade my character just to enjoy the lowbie sidequesting which is actually fun. But, once I hit rank 20 there really aren't more for me to do.

What happens If i want to do the rank 25 dungeon, but I don't have any rank 25 classes? And even if 25 is just the required minimum level, what's to stop a group of 50's from wrecking havok in that dungeon for the loot? I know the dungeon isn't caped cause I've heard these dungeons will be usable for exp, and I don't think SE would deny rank 50 classes there chance at playing the dungeon.

*sigh* just hope Yoshi-P doesn't neglected the Crafters and Gatherers, and not just pinned them down to just "Materia/Repair worker"

Dark hold is in the ishgard area think in the north area there is a roe guarding it. idk where the prison is. i found darkhold while exploring. just obviously couldn't enter.

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Originally Posted by SydeBeheln

What happens If i want to do the rank 25 dungeon, but I don't have any rank 25 classes? And even if 25 is just the required minimum level, what's to stop a group of 50's from wrecking havok in that dungeon for the loot? I know the dungeon isn't caped cause I've heard these dungeons will be usable for exp, and I don't think SE would deny rank 50 classes there chance at playing the dungeon.

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im sure plenty of higher people will be doing them so not a problem

however if by not having any 25s, you mean none are high enough yet, thats another issue altogether

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Originally Posted by Cutriss

Partially because:

1. A good number of them have been playing the same game for a year
2. The game shipped with less than half the content that was present in XI at launch (pre-Zilart)
3. Expansions are commonly introduced to MMOs by the 1-year mark. Zilart shipped a year after release. EQ got its first expansion a year after release. UO got its first expansion six months in.

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1. Play a different game while you wait for changes you deem sufficient to return - the team took over in December, they took a pole from the player base for some basic metrics on what to improve to placate, nay, excite said player base. Results for this pole were released at the end of January (in the first letter from the producer). So really one could deduce that they didn't have concise direction until that time (if one was reasonable). So we'll say they've been actively working to fix issues the player base identified in the polls for 5 months. I think the game has come around quite a bit in those 5 months - especially considering I stopped playing because I felt it was unplayable from about mid September until early February. Upon returning I found the game to be a bit more enjoyable and have been playing ever since. Bottom line is - don't burn yourself out playing a game your unhappy with; the games free so take as much of a break as you see fit - it's not costing a penny to do so.

2 & 3. The game shipped in beta - some even argue it was still in alpha. It's irrelevant what any other MMO shipped with. The circumstances that plagued XIV on release are why it's been off to a slow start, and this, this is why people should be a little more understanding - asking for expansion level content (which in all honesty, all be it half arsed, they are getting ready to give us) while they are trying to rectify the issues, and while it's still free to play is completely pompous.

First patch under Yoshida's regime wasn't even put out until February. I mean seriously. Scoffing at the fact that they haven't given us brand spanking new monsters, brand spanking new equipment skins, brand spanking new maps is just plain ludicrous.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

Areas like those in the screenshot have been in since beta.

I thought the development team were bringing new stuff to the game, not just re-releasing stuff Tanaka and co. already made ten months ago.

What gives?

This isn't really a complaint. Im just incredulous is all.

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I can't say I really agree with that line of reasoning. I always expected that content that was close to ready at the time they decided to go back to the drawing board would be held in the wings for a time when the remaining 'beta' players would be on their knees begging for new content. Before they can really start to add newly designed content they have to finish the changes to jobs and game mechanics. Just my opinion, I'm not a game designer or anything, but I think from a business standpoint them doing that would make sense. Again just my personal opinion.

Besides just because the areas MAY HAVE already been there doesn't mean that the battle content itself isn't designed by the new team.

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Would it kill them to throw up a few more screenshots of the dungeon environments?

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Originally Posted by Mightyg

Would it kill them to throw up a few more screenshots of the dungeon environments?

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It just might.

I just hope that 1.18 comes with battle changes & jobs, not just auto attack. Till now SE's excuse for not adding end game content has been that they wanted to redo the battle system so they can create dungeons and endgame around the new system. This reason made sense to me, so i did not mind waiting a bit longer for content since it would mean by the time we had content we had a much better battle system and gameplay would be better. I just hope these 2 dungeons that are coming out are not rushed products that still utilize the old system. Reading the last letter and the new instance post, i just get the feel they are gonna take another 2+ months on job system and i hope thats not the case, i would rather have the dungeons introduced along with the new battle system since till now their excuse for all the content delays was to redo the core mechanics and revamp the battle system first.

That's not to say i dont want new content, i just think it would be smart to release battle revamp and dungeons together.