I chose BRD for swift gameplay, if I wanted to cast I would have chosen a Mage.

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Originally Posted by Wavaryen

Just makes it unfun, and many bards are not using it to take that stance.

Also, Are we really going to talk about balance on class play styles? I mean really? People are so Jaded it seems. No fair I got to stand here and cast, but they can run around and shoot. So what? Play a bard also? Maybe you don't like your class as much as you think, if you are willing to cry about what others have. Giving more reasons to argue about being a caster bard.

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It's not about jealousy, it's about balance.

They introduced 5 new skills for every job. BRDs have always done lower damage per hit because they can move and attack, and don't need to be in close range. It keeps balance with the melee DPS jobs. So the new skills increase the BRDs damage at the cost of having to stand still for a whopping 1.5s. Boo hoo. The cries of "I don't wanna be a caster" are all hyperbolic BS. 1.5s is nothing compared to casters. It's just a charge attack like in an action game.

"Fun" is entirely subjective. You cannot claim "it makes BRD unfun", because that's only true for you, not everyone who plays BRD on the whole. It doesn't significantly change the playstyle of BRD at all. It added charge attacks that have a significantly shorter charge time than any spell from a caster.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

"Fun" is entirely subjective. You cannot claim "it makes BRD unfun", because that's only true for you, not everyone who plays BRD on the whole.

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Maybe not, but what does the vast majority feel? Because I have seen a huge chunk of Bards angry about this, but only a handful seem to not care or like it. So who should we cater to? The few or the majority?

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Originally Posted by Vespar

Maybe not, but what does the vast majority feel? Because I have seen a huge chunk of Bards angry about this, but only a handful seem to not care or like it. So who should we cater to? The few or the majority?

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Ahh, the age old fallacy of "I see more people complaining about it than not".

Firstly, that's anecdotal. Personally, I've seen far more people fine with/ok/liking the new mechanics than I've seen complain about it. So which one of us is correct? The answer is neither.

Secondly, the forums in no way represent the majority, nor can you determine what the vast majority feel from the forums.

Thirdly, people who are upset about something are far, far more vocal than people content. People are far more likely to make a post and whine about something than make a post and praise something. That's why even with the most successful games in history, their forums are filled with nothing but vitriol... because the people who are actually content with the game are PLAYING the game, and the people not are whining about it.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

It's not about jealousy, it's about balance.

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Read two posts up.

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So the new skills increase the BRDs damage at the cost of having to stand still for a whopping 1.5s.

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It's not like the job is designed around things that don't get along with casting times like a steady stream of instant attacks and off-GCD procs, right? Oh wait...

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The cries of "I don't wanna be a caster" are all hyperbolic BS. 1.5s is nothing compared to casters. It's just a charge attack like in an action game.

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So the job goes from gameplay that is instant casts and off-GCD procs to everything having a cast time, but is not a caster...

By the way, charge attacks in action games can be charged and released while moving. Play a Megaman or Metroid game if you don't believe me.

I'm not main Bard and this is MY OPINION
Bard's playstyle is not mainly from song or freely move around.Its the flow of dealing damage.
I don't mind to stand still while dps but all those cast time interrupt the flow of using skills.

I really wish SE remove the cast time and increase overall dps just 5 or 10% when we're not moving.
Cast time is annoying for Bard.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

Read two posts up.
It's not like the job is designed around things that don't get along with casting times like a steady stream of instant attacks and off-GCD procs, right? Oh wait...
So the job goes from gameplay that is instant casts and off-GCD procs to everything having a cast time, but is not a caster...

By the way, charge attacks in action games can be charged and released while moving. Play a Megaman or Metroid game if you don't believe me.

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Would you feel better if they renamed the "Cast Bar " to a "Charge Bar" or "Aim Bar" ? :P

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Originally Posted by Rikkustrife

How is it overpowered if we don't do more damage than the other classes?

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Please read the post of the person I was replying to, thank you. Plainly put, the suggestion isn't balanced at all. Consuming your own resource for increased damage sounds like a good idea on paper, but in practice, it's a liability and most likely cause Bards to be excluded. Now if we were to try to put something balanced that fits with the Bard want, it would be something like this;

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LV58 The Wanderer's Paeon (Cooldown: 70 seconds)
The next 5 Weaponskills will be Instant and have potency reduced by 20. Damage Over Time effects are unaffected.
Can only be used under the effect of Wanderer's Minuet.
Additional Effect: Critical hits will increase the stacks of Wanderer's Paeon up to a maximum of 5 stacks.
Duration: 60 seconds

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LV12 Bloodletter (Cooldown: 15 seconds)
Delivers an attack with a potency of 150.
Shares a recast timer with Rain of Death.
Additional Effect: Increases stacks of the Wanderer's Paeon.

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i'm just going to leave this here and leave

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Originally Posted by Ageofwar

I really don't understand what BRD's are complaining about, BLM got a worse deal than BRD's and i don't see 500 threads on how crap BLM is.

i mean BLM got Enochian which is a pain in the ass to maintain in fights like Phantom ray in The Fractal Continuum.

Enochian - 30sec to 70sec duration with a recast of 60sec, has to be refreshed under Umbral ice with Blizzard IV

Wanderer's Minuet - infinite duration with recast of 15sec for the cost of mobility

i mean if you need you mobility for part of a fight TURN WM OFF

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Originally Posted by Khemorex

Would you feel better if they renamed the "Cast Bar " to a "Charge Bar" or "Aim Bar" ? :P

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If that were the case, I'd ask that the aim bar fill while you're moving. Possible slower than it would if you were standing still.

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Originally Posted by Khemorex

Would you feel better if they renamed the "Cast Bar " to a "Charge Bar" or "Aim Bar" ? :P

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Just rolling my eyes since my "AIMED" shot deals a lot less damage than my instant shots. Shouldn't it be the other way around?