How would identify a female player guy/girl?

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

Actually me and my female friends are part of that "plenty" he talks of. It's okay if your gender comes up in a conversation that is on topic, but when people post stuff like "come to my gaming channel, hot chick gamer!", yeah, that's attention. When they shout "Will anyone carry this poor dragoon girl with them to clear Odin ; ;? Will give TIGHT hugs in bikini", that's attention and trying to take advantage of your gender. And sadly there's many of them out there.

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No doubt. I fully understand people like that exist. But to say the only reason gender, specifically from women, comes up is for attention is incorrect. Literally anyone can do things for attention. Yet the focus is always on those pesky women waving their gender for stuff. Which, to be perfectly honest, in all my years playing MMO it's happened so rarely I don't even see how this is an issue. There are plenty of times when it's actually men doing that also. I've encountered more cases of men saying those things on a female toon than a women doing it. I actually encountered a couple who did this. Her husband played a girl toon, and they delighted in seeing what other people would give him.

So yeah, I'm always weary of this mysterious women who gets things from men. It's often used as a way to even further seperate gamers. Not only do we have to prove to men we're actually ladies who play (otherwise we're just men because ladies totes don't game), but we also have to prove we're not THOSE women. Only then can the male gamers bless us as real gamers. /sarcasm

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Originally Posted by Red_Wolf

I guess the 25% was a bit dated. It seems to be around 33% now. The 40% just doesn't seem right though. If you look at these articles a little closer that 40% is never directly linked with MMOs. They artificially inflate that 40% by including "mobile games". Middle aged female gamers have skyrocketed since Farmville and Candy Crush were released.

And, I'm not talking about normal conversations or correcting people. I thought I already said that. There's a difference between being annoyed that some guy is calling you dude and telling everyone in a PUG that you are a girl for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

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The first link to stats says 40%. I don't know exactly where they got those stats though, so I do tend to be curious about it. The last one also says 40%, but does seem to be a blog post. Though one done by games analyst. Though, arguably, a mobile MMO is still an MMO. Quite frankly, my opinion is that if you play games...you can be considered a gamer (this include tabletop). Obviously there's a difference between the housewives who play Candy Crush while waiting for their kids, but she also isn't going to be the one calling herself a gamer.

I honestly didn't see you differentiate between anything. You're example was merely girls saying "I'm a girl" which is fairly broad. Regardless, I have addressed above to another person my opinions on that situation as well.

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

Actually me and my female friends are part of that "plenty" he talks of. It's okay if your gender comes up in a conversation that is on topic, but when people post stuff like "come to my gaming channel, hot chick gamer!", yeah, that's attention. When they shout "Will anyone carry this poor dragoon girl with them to clear Odin ; ;? Will give TIGHT hugs in bikini", that's attention and trying to take advantage of your gender. And sadly there's many of them out there.

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Thank you. I explained it poorly. This is much better. Since everyone is jumping on me already for crap I didn't say... I didn't want to give them more material.

No, I don't think the majority of female gamers are looking for white knights. Yes, I think those girls are looked down upon by most other girls.

I tell people I'm really a tall handsome man in order to get carries off of desperate gamer girls.

True story, honest.

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Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen

I like people for who they are, not what they are.

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Not exactly sure why it took 327 posts for this to be said...or maybe it was and I missed it because I definitely started skimming through some of this hostile crap halfway through the thread, but kudos to you and +1

If you are a cool person, I will be friendly to you regardless of any other circumstances. End of story. I am a male gamer, I play a male Elezen and I tend to look at chat logs and game activites, not character models and animated posteriors... My friend was upset the other day that I hadn't noticed his glamour from 3 weeks ago. /shrug It wasn't meant to be inattentive, I just generally don't pay much attention to character models when I'm doing content. Max zoom camera, and usually paying attention to everything else going on in the raid/dungeon/whatever-content

I thought that quote on the 1st page was hilarious though, I jump everywhere I go!! Countless times I will put my character on my Enbarr mount in auto-run so while I'm running I can jump and rotate my char model as far to the side as possible and then back to original position to see if it will break my stride or not. I think I'm close to perfection!! Also, there is just too many things in my FC front yard that are awesome to jump on lol. Like catching the edge of my chocobo stable while jumping from my cobblestone fencing and doing the electric slide across the roof of the stable #tooflyforanelfguy

Seriously though, I guess I can understand OP's general curiousity, but I don't care if you are a guy a girl or a sniper-cat; if you are cool to talk to and generally a nice person I will be your friend!

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Originally Posted by Red_Wolf

Fair enough. Do google searches for the Daedalus Project or any of his studies. Here's a blog post that gives an overview of most of the studies referenced in this thread: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_te...e_avatars.html

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One 'study' does not help much in this area. Not to mention that this 'study' covered a tiny population of gamers invited to participate in an artificially created WoW event for the purposes of the 'study' I also not that there is no indication of any peer review - which is not terribly surprising considering that the authors affiliations include;

• Department of Journalism and Technical Communication, Colorado State University
• School of Information Studies, Syracuse University
• Institute of Communication, Culture and Information Technology, University of Toronto
• Journalism, Media Studies, and Public Relations, Hofstra University
• Communication Studies, Concordia University (Canada)

Without a control group, with no stated methodology, no involvement from the relevant field (psychology) and no peer review in evidence, that 'study' lacks the credibility to be called anything more than an exercise in public relations and pseudo science.

thread title: How would identify a female player guy/girl?

How do I? I don't cause I could care less. And if you want to get married/eternal bonded in game with someone I'd hope your connection goes somewhat deeper than just someone you found in PF or the forums for this game...

And just to be clear, you could marry/eternal bond with a duck for all I care as long as it's consensual (big word I know, look it up).

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Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen

I like people for who they are, not what they are.

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Right? Worrying about what gender or sexuality people are is no different than worrying about what race they are. I mean, there's curiosity for the sake of curiosity (it's always fun to find out what people are like IRL to see if you have some common ground to talk about, right?). When it comes down to it though, it doesn't matter! None of it matters one tiny little bit! We're all people playing this wonderful game called FFXIV, so we all have at least one thing in common. Why not just accept that for what it is?

tbh I always have wondered how often this is reversed. (females playing as male char)

This thread...

http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...alm.jpg?eaa32f

WHY IS THIS AN ISSUE!?

Girl=guy in real life :)