SP nerfed. We were lied to.

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Originally Posted by Lenneth_Valkyrie

I've been away for a month or so.. and I'm very much discouraged from logging back in now..
What are we.. shrimps..? because I see we're walking backwards..

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yet another one to state they dislike the changes without actually trying out the patch themselves... it is not a set backwards its a medium size step forward.

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Originally Posted by Xmbei

yet another one to state they dislike the changes without actually trying out the patch themselves... it is not a set backwards its a medium size step forward.

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It's not a step forward though. There aren't really any viable alternatives. We're left with a handful of mediocre garbage. Nobody would mind what happened to leves if there was still clear ways to rank up. The problem is that a majority of people, including myself, simply don't know how anymore. You can say we need to group and grind, but nobody actually does that at the moment, so it's currently not an option.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

Isn't that what some people asked for with all the "I miss FFXI" stuff going on for the last couple of months? Seems like you (or they) got what you (or they) wanted, with progression slowed to a crawl on top of it! =/

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What would make you think I would like that? Who in their right minds enjoys mindless grinding for 8 hours to not even rank up once? I was being sarcastic in that post in case you didn't notice.

Just try a some Beastman camp with friends in at east of Halatali get like 450sp each mob and their respawn time is really quick. our pt range is 35-40. Mob is rank 47-49 and there is lot beastman 30rank at a bit outside the ring too.

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Originally Posted by Victor

It's not a step forward though. There aren't really any viable alternatives. We're left with a handful of mediocre garbage. Nobody would mind what happened to leves if there was still clear ways to rank up. The problem is that a majority of people, including myself, simply don't know how anymore. You can say we need to group and grind, but nobody actually does that at the moment, so it's currently not an option.

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it's because the old system conditioned all of us to think that leve's were the only thing to do and taught us to just do leve's and behest's. This is a new system give it sometime for the conditioned mindset to unravel and rewrap itself around how the new system works. Once everyone grows accustom to it, (instead of insta-flailing like some of us are now) it will be smoother and better, but that being said we will still have those that will complain because it everyone wants something different out of the game.

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Originally Posted by Lenneth_Valkyrie

I've been away for a month or so.. and I'm very much discouraged from logging back in now..
What are we.. shrimps..? because I see we're walking backwards..

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Maybe you should actually try the patch instead of listening to forum whining that has been countered time and time again, form someone that thought that behests were the best source of SP previously (just LOL).

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Originally Posted by Xmbei

it's because the old system conditioned all of us to think that leve's were the only thing to do and taught us to just do leve's and behest's. This is a new system give it sometime for the conditioned mindset to unravel and rewrap itself around how the new system works. Once everyone grows accustom to it, (instead of insta-flailing like some of us are now) it will be smoother and better, but that being said we will still have those that will complain because it everyone wants something different out of the game.

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That still leaves a broken game until it "smoothes" out, and that's of course assuming that it does. Not really fair to players.

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Originally Posted by Nero

Finally you understand how its going to be. Just took you 200+ Posts in this Thread.

But to make it more clear:

Its not about the work, its about dedication.

People who play together in a LS, or in a circle of Friends like it this way to see process. Afterwards people can say, "wow, look what we did, look how many sp we did with old fashioned FFXI grind style, look how we beat the Boss of the Dungeon".. and so on. That is challenge and that is how a video game have to be. Its a game.. so e-peen is allowed.

Did you play an OfflineFF? IF you did.. did you finished the Game by staying around, or doing the same Stuff over and over again? I guess not. Multiple aspects of the Game, will bring you to the Goal, not a Single one and avoiding everything else. And i can say you did nothing but fail-leve's... or you wouldnt complain now, if you would have explored the virtual world pre-patch and would have figured there is more than just 3 leves at BrokenWater.

Learn to optimize your Role, learn to manage other ways to be effective, try out different things, play with other people, get a community and make a Static-pt, put effort into it to see your own process and be proud of it what you did with your mates, enjoy different aspects of the game and also you can hate some ( you dont have to like ALL of it ), be frustrated, be happy, be down, be up.. enjoy, have fun.. and so on.

Yes that is a videogame.. if you want gain things, without doing anything for it, without beeing dedicated, without leaving one Area, without trying other things to optimize or be effective, without trying to meet new people and SP with them, without also putting so effort into it.. then this is not the Game you should play... then you should play Stuff like this:

http://www.mabuhaynet.com/games/easiest-game.php

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Wow so many people with this point of view is alarming. Seems like some people really do have all the time in the world. "It took 6 hours to rank up pre-patch that's easy mode, you are not earning it if you don't grind for at least 12 hours per rank" GTFO. Like I said those of you who get a sense of accomplishment of doing the same things than pre-patch except that now it takes 3 times as much time to rank up you got your wish so by all means go grind and feel accomplished and fulfilled.

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Originally Posted by Sawamura

Just try a some Beastman camp with friends in at east of Halatali get like 450sp each mob and their respawn time is really quick. our pt range is 35-40. Mob is rank 47-49 and there is lot beastman 30rank at a bit outside the ring too.

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so they added grinding spots
but no one seems to be using them, most people are just complaining that they have to change what they did before

thanks for the heads up was looking for the ranks of what beastmen camps were what(didnt see anythinb tut rhe 35s at hala but i also didnt look too hard as i was running through mining)

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Originally Posted by odette

check your brain too
only find pts 40s+ but middle ranks and low ranks never find pt
so shut up

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Learn to play the Game.. Open your Eyes.

The only thing i will shut, is the door when you leave this Game.