Pld buff or War nerf in 1.22?

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Originally Posted by Aceofspades

If somone is doing all that they know to do to build hate and is still having issues with keeping hate (assuming they know how to keep hate with PLD) then another viable source of hate build while everything else is on cool down is an AOE cure on pt members who have less the full hp.. or was that too hard to understand? sure you could use like twice the mp and cure one person and yourself or use less , build same if not more enmity on an aoe cure helping multiples in your party.....

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Hmm. I'd prefer if my cure spells where set for their intended use and have enmity charging skills have more of an impact, but I suppose it's a valid strategy. After all, Cure on PLD must reap hate for some reason.

Thanks.

I am serious by the way. I've been feeling relatively useless in battles as of late.

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Originally Posted by Aion

you said PLD survivability is unmatched, and I disagree with that, WAR just tank fine, they got high HP, second wind and bloodbath... seriously, what PLD def gonna do on Ifrit fight? you already know almost all Ifrit attacks is elemental based right?

ok let me ask you, how many WHM did you bring when you tank as PLD in ifrit?

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.... Realy? do you even parse your fights? top DPS on any boss fight , to include Ifrit is ALWAYS normal or physical damage.... as far as how many whm. depends on the healer. if I have a good healer who know how not to die , one, otherwise 2, max

So when they introduce a new tanking class are you people just going to cry about what one is best and overpowered? You guys that bitch about classes needing nerfed will ruin this game for everyone so just stfu and let them make this game the way they want to. I understand half of you got pampered in Candyland aka WoW but I dont think crying to SE is going to help.

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Originally Posted by Aceofspades

.... Realy? do you even parse your fights? top DPS on any boss fight , to include Ifrit is ALWAYS normal or physical damage.... as far as how many whm. depends on the healer. if I have a good healer who know how not to die , one, otherwise 2, max

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Im confused, who is the top DPS? you as PLD?

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Originally Posted by Aion

and also... how come thm/blm get hit by vulcan burst???

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.... realy?

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Originally Posted by Aceofspades

.... Realy? do you even parse your fights? top DPS on any boss fight , to include Ifrit is ALWAYS normal or physical damage.... as far as how many whm. depends on the healer. if I have a good healer who know how not to die , one, otherwise 2, max

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One WHM is the better IMO. I find 2 WHM's spamming cures, waste their heals due to bad timing.

With one, I heal myself alot more and I find it generates huge hate in short time.

Run low on MP? Cover your WHM every 1 minute. Always stack Outmaneuver with Divine Veil as often as possible.

Two WHM? better be a melee setup. One WHM Focus PLD, PLD focus heals/Rampart to melee. Second WHM AoE Regen melee and stoneskin on dash. Divine Veil is huge with the ablity to stack.

Even in that setup, 2 WHM's feel like too much.

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Originally Posted by Aceofspades

.... realy?

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Vulcan Burst
Large AoE Fire Damage around Ifrit
800~ damage

what your thm/blm doing near ifrit?

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Originally Posted by schism

So when they introduce a new tanking class are you people just going to cry about what one is best and overpowered? You guys that bitch about classes needing nerfed will ruin this game for everyone so just stfu and let them make this game the way they want to. I understand half of you got pampered in Candyland aka WoW but I dont think crying to SE is going to help.

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War's Steel Cyclone needed nerfing and this is coming form someone who felt PLD is not broken after 1.21a.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Fury

That's a pretty cool idea and definately would be a great asset to party play and ensuring PLD as main tank.
My only issues would be:
A) This would ensure that WAR would not be tanking, defeating it's hybrid purpose. Cause I'd choose this skill over a WAR anyday. (Generally because off block buffs and HP increase due to PLD.)
B) Somehow feels like a warrior skill effect, rather than a Paladin. However, this is just from how I could picture it.

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The developers would need to ballance out it's mechanics as so not to undermine Warrior. I veiw it as compensation for pld's lack of damage. Basicly, it allows a party with a paladin to match the dps level of a party that would contain a war tank, nothing more. This move would also provide a paralleled ability for Collusion.

You have to remember, the warrior is all about self, not the party. I see it with respects to improving the morale of the party. Something I beleive a PLD could easily accomplish with all it's divinity and shinyness.

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Originally Posted by Aion

Im confused, who is the top DPS? you as PLD?

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omg, ok leme break it down barny style.

top dps done by Ifrit is normal attaks,
second is sear
third is incinerate (and yes , Im sure i spelled that wrong , who cares)
fourth is usually plumes (if they hit me at all, shit happens)
and normally last on the list is Hell fire, sentinal, rampart and stone skin makes hell fire hit less then 800 everytime.

that explain it?