Please lift glamour restrictions!

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Originally Posted by Wanzer

If for you they shouldn't have any "restrictions", then you really don't know how fantasy worlds are made. :|
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The actually jobs themselves give out the identity not the gear, you know like , different weapons, and abilities job quest all of those things. If you are wearing a bunny suit during all of this it doesn't make you lose that identity, lets just be real here like I've said if you remove these restrictions you guys are just automatically assuming that then all of a sudden people are gona start wearing from head to toe full on af gear sets.

Is the op asking to put the whole summoner set on his scholar no, when Ive mention stuff am I requesting to put a whole entire set AF gear on another job nope. What removing this restriction would do is open the door to paste over hats, gloves, boots, stuff like that. And even if people used chest pieces or pants that still doesnt mean that they would then wear the whole entire set on a different Job. Like I said I'm on three servers and I hardly ever see people wearing job specific gear the whole entire set very rarely.

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Originally Posted by Enur

I think you are confusing lore with the series tradition. DRK being a dps isnt lore, thats tradition. Lore, is what keeps the jobs seperated. Lore is what keeps everything consistent and fitting .

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I totally know what your saying like when you get sent on job quest etc, and they are like this is the holy set of this or that something of the sort.

I get that part ,but the world isnt gona end if my blm wants to wear the white mage gloves. Everyone seems to be thinking full on gear sets when even this very post is just a pair of boots, if they lifted this restrictions would their be some people wearing full gear sets just because sure. But I'm ok with lifting said restrictions so people that just want smaller pieces can just mix and match them with other glamour outfits they choose. The very first two examples were a single pair of boots, and a pair of pants neither of them where full on gear sets. IF people get this out of their head, that more than likely the majority of players askin for this change arent asking to wear an entire gear set on a different job then maybe they would see that its not really that big of a deal.

As I mention earlier on this tread the lore does not explain the job system in ff 14, so if I as a player wants to play as if Im one single job then why cant I the game didnt explain it to me and I didn't play other ff games with the same job system so it just leaves the notion essentially in my own hands.

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Originally Posted by ReplicaX

I see what you did there. :rolleyes:

It's already restricted by gender, so your male Mi'qote can't wear it.

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This is not about gender restrictions though. Funny how absolutely no one can give me any answer besides sarcasm. I guess I should have added a *drops mic* after.

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Originally Posted by Anyan

This is not about gender restrictions though. Funny how absolutely no one can give me any answer besides sarcasm. I guess I should have added a *drops mic* after.

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You want an answer? Okay.

FFX doesn't use the iconic job system. Which has been said before; not all FF titles have the job system, but the ones that do have the job lore specific gear in them is the majority of the titles released. FFX has a different system called the sphere grid; anyone can be anything and learn all abilities/spells. I had my Yuna blasting stuff with Black Magic half way through the game.

FFXIV uses the job system you don't have Summoner's using Blizzard IV. If your character could be all jobs at once and learn all abilities of all jobs and use them all at once then you could compare FFXIV to FFX. As it stands you can only make use of one soul stone at a time so even if you level all jobs, learn all abilties, you are still limited to the abilities and spells the soul stone is associated with.

Also a Kimono is not the traditional Summoner gear so as soon as you saw how the characters dressed in FFX you would know they choose not to follow it for that title. Summoner lorewise has a horn, green, beige, and sometimes red colours and sometimes wings. So this thing about only summoner's wearing just a plain kimono that has no link to the traditional summoner gear doesn't work for this argument really.

Here some examples if you notice they aren't really anything like what Yuna was wearing:

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110115132325

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...T_Summoner.jpg

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

Is the op asking to put the whole summoner set on his scholar no, when Ive mention stuff am I requesting to put a whole entire set AF gear on another job nope. What removing this restriction would do is open the door to paste over hats, gloves, boots, stuff like that. And even if people used chest pieces or pants that still doesnt mean that they would then wear the whole entire set on a different Job. Like I said I'm on three servers and I hardly ever see people wearing job specific gear the whole entire set very rarely.

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Yeah, i already understood that : You just want to remove the restrictions just for being able to wear some parts of the AFs. We got it. Like, at the first message. But again, you choose to ignore a part of my previous message, referring to another message that you also ignored just to make your point (the one about the dev team).

You even said :

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

I really hope that the next job is gona be something that its totally not suppose to be like a blue mage as a tank so that people can see that the lore changes based on how the devs want it to change. Just like I mention before in one game drk was a dps in this game they are tanks so if I see SE changing their lore as they see fit then Im not gona hold it to some gold standard if the very company that makes the lore isnt even doing it themselves.

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Then again... Why don't you just accept what the dev team wants ? Especially since they already stated how the AFs are important to them. DRK was a DPS in FFXI and became a tank in FFXIV, and we all accepted it. And there is nothing wrong with a mage tank. But, again, once things are added and we are all aware of its purpose/lore/identity, there is no point to argue about it. It is what it is. So, your example about the BLU is kinda... Bleh.

And you totally missed the point when i talked about the identity of the game. But... Well, as you just take what you want for your next message to proclaim that there is no relevant arguments around, I shouldn't bother to explain.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

Like I said I'm on three servers and I hardly ever see people wearing job specific gear the whole entire set very rarely.

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And now your eyes are able to bring us some real statistics. It's so beautiful.
But... From my point of view, it's not that rare to find people wearing AFs. Sooo... Maybe we shouldn't go on that way. That makes no sense. ^^

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Originally Posted by Enur

I think you are confusing lore with the series tradition. DRK being a dps isnt lore, thats tradition. Lore, is what keeps the jobs seperated. Lore is what keeps everything consistent and fitting within the world. And if a gear set has a story tied to a job, it should stay locked to that job.
All of the artifact sets have lore tieing them to their respective job.

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Lore that we experienced when doing the job quests, and then that item is in our possession. Considering the lore behind what a glamour is, there's no reason a person who has gone through and been gifted these clothes shouldn't be able to use them as they see fit. I've never seen any indication in-game that NPCs would be upset or feel like a job was "desecrated" if the player character would wear a glamour using pieces of an outfit they earned while not that particular job.

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Originally Posted by Miste

You want an answer? Okay.

FFX doesn't use the iconic job system. Which has been said before; not all FF titles have the job system, but the ones that do have the job lore specific gear in them is the majority of the titles released. FFX has a different system called the sphere grid; anyone can be anything and learn all abilities/spells. I had my Yuna blasting stuff with Black Magic half way through the game.

FFXIV uses the job system you don't have Summoner's using Blizzard IV. If your character could be all jobs at once and learn all abilities of all jobs and use them all at once then you could compare FFXIV to FFX. As it stands you can only make use of one soul stone at a time so even if you level all jobs, learn all abilties, you are still limited to the abilities and spells the soul stone is associated with.

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So it only matters if the system is exactly the same as in this game?

Yes, besides cross class abilities (which the sphere grid loosely resembles) we are limited to certain skills/spells depending on our soulstone but what has that to do with glamour?
I get it if we can't actually wear the gear because majyks but we're not actually wearing it, it's just an illusion.
I really, really don't understand why y'all care so much about how other people dress, design and style their characters.

edit: I just thought of something funny. Well it's funny to me at least. Doesn't this discussion remind you of those sjw complaining about cultural appropriation? NO, you can only wear this or that depending on where you are from (what class you play). XD

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Originally Posted by Anyan

So it only matters if the system is exactly the same as in this game?

Yes, besides cross class abilities (which the sphere grid loosely resembles) we are limited to certain skills/spells depending on our soulstone but what has that to do with glamour?
I get it if we can't actually wear the gear because majyks but we're not actually wearing it, it's just an illusion.
I really, really don't understand why y'all care so much about how other people dress, design and style their characters.

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The people with the borderline obsessive fixation on what people can and can't wear are the people saying there's no possible argument against lifting restrictions on glamour just because they want it and choose to ignore what others say about it (and choose to ignore Square Enix's own say in this, because obviously they know better than the game's creators!).

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Originally Posted by Wanzer

Yeah, i already understood that : You just want to remove the restrictions just for being able to wear some parts of the AFs. We got it. Like, at the first message. But again, you choose to .

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That's not my intentions to ignore what people are sayin and I apologize if it came across in that manner. But I just simply cant accept every piece of lore in the game like you guys do, I've mention cutting corners, if lore was so important then we wouldn't be getting a jump potion the devs would stick by their own lore. Lore is only a portion of the game, keeping subs, and having people enjoy the game will always trump lore, to lores standards then they better not give people that use jump potions any of the level 50 af gear because the only way that you would receive such gear is by doing the things in that job quest lore story line.

The very jump potion post is blaming said lore , for the whole reason in creating it in the first place. So you cant expect me to acknowledge that lore is set in stone when this year people will have access to skipping every bit of lore that we have play through in the entire game(which im 100 percent ok with btw). If players can skip through the very core of lore which is the story of the game , then there is absolutely no reason that lore should hold players back from wearing boots from another job.

You can not have it both ways and say that lore is not important enough to where players can skip the story if they pay money thus skipping everything and having it completed, and then on the other hand say that lore is to important to where it holds players back from creating a glamour choice.


On a side note how do you guys re edit , your post and put quests in and stuff , I been tryin to figure out how to do this for the longest and its not working Ive never used a forum until this game so im clueless.

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Originally Posted by GMERC

The people with the borderline obsessive fixation on what people can and can't wear are the people saying there's no possible argument against lifting restrictions on glamour just because they want it and choose to ignore what others say about it (and choose to ignore Square Enix's own say in this, because obviously they know better than the game's creators!).

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Lol what? XD You guys are the ones telling people what they can or can't wear. The OP is asking for the restriction to be lifted. You know, like all the other things SE has changed due to popular demand.
You might think glamouring class specific gear is where the line is drawn but that's your opinion. There is no reason to get nasty, condescending and an overall a-hole like you have been, not only in this thread but in several others too, just because you disagree with something.
I've never seen anyone asking for a change to claim they know better that the devs.

Seriously y'all, this is a GAME! Why the ever loving fudge do you care so much about what other people wear?