Airship Guide

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Originally Posted by Rhazen

Ok, I have read that to unlock sector 19 u must visit sector 15... I have made 9 trips now and still no luck! Is there a certain flight path to take or am I just entirely unlucky (using 2 rank 50 airships to try and discover it)

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From our data, it appears to be pure RNG. The only thing you can really do to improve your chances is sacrifice more Lalas to RNGesus.

For unlocking things faster, I recommend making a ship with a Viltgance rigging and Bronco Aftcastle (which would have absolute maximum speed) and using it to hit the sector as fast as possible. The more hits, the more chances to unlock.

Are there any recommended Ship part configurations that use the new ship parts? I have two rank 50s using Invincible/Odyssey parts and I want to have something better, but I'm unsure of how it works.

I'm curious if anyone has any opinions on inv/bronco/vit/ody versus ent/bronco/ody/tat? I'm wondering if it's worth upgrading to the new build if we have airships on the older build.

A question about Sector 17 and the materia from there. I have gotten so many IV Craftman's Comp (Craft +6) materia but virtually no IV Craftman's Command (Control +4). And well I would prefer the latter at this moment in time.

Is it just RNG being a troll to me and deciding to not give me any Command - or is there a higher chance to get that materia type from another Sector..? @_@

I have 4 Airships with the inv/bronco/vit/ody build and I'm very happy with them.I think it is the best build for crafting materia as even in the worst weather conditions you still get 2 try's on each sector which is huge.

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Originally Posted by Narukuchan

A question about Sector 17 and the materia from there. I have gotten so many IV Craftman's Comp (Craft +6) materia but virtually no IV Craftman's Command (Control +4). And well I would prefer the latter at this moment in time.

Is it just RNG being a troll to me and deciding to not give me any Command - or is there a higher chance to get that materia type from another Sector..? @_@

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99% sure it's RNG. But, there's a 1% chance the drop rate for Crafts is just higher - I know I always seemed to get more Crafts IVs than Command IVs from the start from that sector. I haven't analyzed that data though, and dunno if I have enough datapoints for it anyway...

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

99% sure it's RNG. But, there's a 1% chance the drop rate for Crafts is just higher - I know I always seemed to get more Crafts IVs than Command IVs from the start from that sector. I haven't analyzed that data though, and dunno if I have enough datapoints for it anyway...

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Ah no worries then sweetie - thanks for the reply though. Much appreciated =3

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

99% sure it's RNG. But, there's a 1% chance the drop rate for Crafts is just higher - I know I always seemed to get more Crafts IVs than Command IVs from the start from that sector. I haven't analyzed that data though, and dunno if I have enough datapoints for it anyway...

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I'll go with the latter, a quick check on people's data shows that craftsmanship has a higher drop rate than control, also 3.2 data seems to point out there's more than just rng going on for crafting materia, airships with low surv/retrieval barely get them anymore compared to pre 3.2.

I went for high retrieval instead of speed. Did I do something wrong? Still nothing but logs and branches from 24. :(

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Originally Posted by AerisVII

I have 4 Airships with the inv/bronco/vit/ody build and I'm very happy with them.I think it is the best build for crafting materia as even in the worst weather conditions you still get 2 try's on each sector which is huge.

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Couldn't aggry more, i don't have SS all the time but it's way more often than before and with next patch we should be able to make an even better combinaison.

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Originally Posted by Morvelaira

I went for high retrieval instead of speed. Did I do something wrong? Still nothing but logs and branches from 24. :(

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Did you max out the forecastle? We've been getting a lot of sticks too and maybe that's just bad rng luck, but those that have juiced up their forecastle appear to be having a much better time of it. Our best ship was inv/bronc/tat/tat, but it's been renamed the SS Stick Getter since the patch for a reason. We're slowly working on adjusting the ship parts, but it's rather depressing that the current parts that were working decently before the patch are now nearly worthless.

edit: And after I post this the stick getter brings back some V materia, an iron voyage spoil, some crafting materia and of course to top it off, half a stack of hq birch branches.

Such Branches, much sadness.

Just chiming in, we also upgraded to a Viltgance (the spelling of this word really bothers me) forecastle and seem to have had good results with iron voyage spoils and grade V materia. We're running the Odyssey Aftcastle with it and just settling for really slow voyages. Lately it seems like all of our fast ships have really taken a hit with the ratings they're coming back with. I feel like we haven't seen an A or S ranking with our faster ships in weeks.

When did paying attention to the voyage rating become a thing?

I use 7 airships and I've got 17 spoils since the patch, only one airship has tatanora forecastle, everything else is a mix between inv II, enter and ody, basically most of them have balanced stats, not excelling at anything really, so I'm with Nyalia in that you don't really need a high retrieval/surveillance airship to get regular spoils, and it would be better to focus on speed.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

When did paying attention to the voyage rating become a thing?

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Ratings are totally a thing! I'm not disagreeing that you can definitely get a lot of spoils from just RNGing it with fast ships. I was just saying that I've noticed that it feels like the ratings for our faster ships are lower while this slow ship (in general) seems to come back with higher rankings from its missions. This was a lucky pull with 6 grade 5 materia from the ship mentioned above.

http://i.imgur.com/CIq5Wkg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LWAAGzv.jpg

Last I checked, the rating was not based upon the entire voyage, but instead, based upon the last leg or something, making it a rather useless piece of information ... Which is why I asked when caring about that rating became a thing. You can get excellent results with a poor rating, excellent results with a great rating, poor results with a poor rating, and poor results with an excellent rating. So why care about the rating?

Well that was a misfire

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slince last few updates i notice that my airships are not bring anymore lvl 4 control materia from sector 17 :3
i spam it already sector 17 for around 3 weeks now with 4 airships which have all high stats and still nothing not even one lvl 4 control materia. :mad:

does anyone notice something like that too?

regards small hobbit

PS: my airship stats are 100/100/100/86/104, 110/122/68/94/118, 128/108/72/94/132, 106/140/50/98/118 if matter slince i dont use the new gear which come up last time :3

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Originally Posted by SmallHobbit

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slince last few updates i notice that my airships are not bring anymore lvl 4 control materia from sector 17 :3
i spam it already sector 17 for around 3 weeks now with 4 airships which have all high stats and still nothing not even one lvl 4 control materia. :mad:

does anyone notice something like that too?

regards small hobbit

PS: my airship stats are 100/100/100/86/104, 110/122/68/94/118, 128/108/72/94/132, 106/140/50/98/118 if matter slince i dont use the new gear which come up last time :3

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Pretty sure A, B, and D don't have enough surveillance to get 4s anymore. I only started getting them when I painstakenly replaced all the airships with inv/bro/vilt/ody

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Last I checked, the rating was not based upon the entire voyage, but instead, based upon the last leg or something, making it a rather useless piece of information ... Which is why I asked when caring about that rating became a thing. You can get excellent results with a poor rating, excellent results with a great rating, poor results with a poor rating, and poor results with an excellent rating. So why care about the rating?

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They've made other changes to the airships to this point, why wouldn't they have potentially changed the way rating are calculated? I'm just trying to argue, it's just that other things have shifted so I don't believe that we can fully trust the old information that we had.

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Originally Posted by Arcticharm

They've made other changes to the airships to this point, why wouldn't they have potentially changed the way rating are calculated? I'm just trying to argue, it's just that other things have shifted so I don't believe that we can fully trust the old information that we had.

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It's true that we can't trust the old data, but ratings are still final sector only. I've been checking - there has been no screenshot posted anywhere and no log from my own guild that contradicts that. Final ratings (the letter grades) are still based only on the last sector, and are always either the letter equivalent of the last sector's exp bonus, or one letter "higher." Abysmal in final sector always equals C or B. Outstanding in the final sector always means SS. And so on.

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Originally Posted by Arcticharm

They've made other changes to the airships to this point, why wouldn't they have potentially changed the way rating are calculated? I'm just trying to argue, it's just that other things have shifted so I don't believe that we can fully trust the old information that we had.

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So I just re-read what I said, I totally meant I was not trying to argue and it came out wrong, sorry about that!

I didn't take that in an argumentative manner. I was wondering, though, why assume that something not stated as changing has changed, without data supporting any change?

I get that there are times that they don't put things into patch notes (I've seen it a lot with SoE/DBG with Everquest), though SE seems to be rather comprehensive with their notes. But lacking the data that supports an unannounced (or, for that matter, accepting the possibility that I might have missed or misread an announcement) change I was wondering why people started suddenly paying attention to the airship venture rating.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

I didn't take that in an argumentative manner. I was wondering, though, why assume that something not stated as changing has changed, without data supporting any change?

I get that there are times that they don't put things into patch notes (I've seen it a lot with SoE/DBG with Everquest), though SE seems to be rather comprehensive with their notes. But lacking the data that supports an unannounced (or, for that matter, accepting the possibility that I might have missed or misread an announcement) change I was wondering why people started suddenly paying attention to the airship venture rating.

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You make a fair point; I shouldn't have assumed. Apologies. I was just trying say that it seems like our slower ship with high survey and retrieval was having better results than our fast ship with lower survey and retrieval which is outside of voyage ratings to your point. I'll just go back to lurking now :)

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Originally Posted by Morvelaira

I went for high retrieval instead of speed. Did I do something wrong? Still nothing but logs and branches from 24. :(

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As soon as i unlocked 24 i sent 2 ships there.. and both came back with 1 spoil each. INV / BRO / ODY / VIL slow runs but also got some good 7-8m drops from sector 17 with that set.
Will try different set on other ship as soon as i will unlock those sectors.. till then i must say i'm happy with that one.. slow but nice drops.. ((well sometime they troll me.. ^^ ))

Hi,

Did the general state of Airship have incidence about airship logs ?

Was sending my Airships to Sector 17 (for Materias) but no one give them (I've the requirement...) but sometimes airship give me only 10 cristals !!

I repair my airship only when broken... should i repair before ? or there is no fact about it ?

Thanks

From what people have found, airships perform just as well with all parts at 1% as they do with all parts at 100%. So, it's most cost efficient to only repair parts when they break. But, since parts of different tiers take damage at different rates, it might be more convenient for you to repair parts before 0% if like, they're at 0%/0%/1%/5% or something.

Ok thanks for answer :)

Will try more and more to get materias...

Finally got SS rank for once ....

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps42tn2qio.jpg

So...you can get 3 iron voyage spoils at once.

http://i.imgur.com/3ah25PW.jpg


Inv-Bro-Vilt-Ody for reference

Yes and no. So far screenshots have shown TWO Iron Voyage Spoils in any one gathering attempt. You can get lucky enough to have more than one attempt, either by hitting another Sector, or by getting a second shot at that same Sector. Your screenshot shows that both of your attempts in that one sector returned an Iron Voyage Spoil. The first attempt in the sector got you one, the number you got in the other is not shown.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Yes and no. So far screenshots have shown TWO Iron Voyage Spoils in any one gathering attempt. You can get lucky enough to have more than one attempt, either by hitting another Sector, or by getting a second shot at that same Sector. Your screenshot shows that both of your attempts in that one sector returned an Iron Voyage Spoil. The first attempt in the sector got you one, the number you got in the other is not shown.

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One and Two, as you said.

i am a bit confused my company airship is lvl 50 with a tatanora hull, i went to upgrade to a tatanora type forcastle and it says insufficent airframe capacity, can someone explain please?

Each level 50 airship has a maximum air-frame capacity of 61
Tatanora parts are 26 each x 4 = 104

What this means is, you can't use all Tatanora parts on a single ship. You need to mix up parts from the earlier ships you made which have a lower value. You'll find the value on the information panel for each part, just mouse over and it should pop up.
For good suggestions on which airship builds will be most effective, go to Nyalia's section on page one of this thread (post #3).

thank you Solarra, i am basically noob learning the airship stuff cause fc lead kinda got left to me lol. ty again for response

WTB new mammet :< 2 weeks of no luck trying to unlock sector 7. At this rate, I'll unlock Airship 3 before the 2nd lol

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Originally Posted by Hanmerreborn

So...you can get 3 iron voyage spoils at once.

http://i.imgur.com/3ah25PW.jpg


Inv-Bro-Vilt-Ody for reference

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Just to be sure, are you talking about...
Invincible Hull
Bronco Rigging
Vitigance Forecastle
Odyssey Aftcastle?

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Originally Posted by LionFranco

Just to be sure, are you talking about...
Invincible Hull
Bronco Rigging
Vitigance Forecastle
Odyssey Aftcastle?

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Yes, but as Roth said above, it rolled two collections of spoils, one of them being a 2 collect.

No thats fine, i'm seeing quite a few people with that build, and my FC has been having very bad luck with getting materia and stuff too, so that seems to be a good build for getting materia too...although it would help if we can freaking get Sector 24 even unlocked.

Been trying since 3.2 came out. It is unlocked from Sector 21, right?

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Originally Posted by Hanmerreborn

Yes, but as Roth said above, it rolled two collections of spoils, one of them being a 2 collect.

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What sectors are you going to to get crafting materia and spoils?