Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

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Originally Posted by Zuro

http://i.imgur.com/vJdxM16.jpg

Got it.

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Can we get a pic during the day. Cause you know, a black chocobo during the night >_> can't see how good the feathers look.

Fed mine 7 mamook pear, which had the 'growing feathers' msg on the 7th, I am aiming for Apple Green. Another friend of mine is going for Lotus Pink, I will have him feed his Apple and Berries.

Stable condition: Good

Color aim: Apple Green
Feed 1: 7 pear


Color Aim: Lotus Pink
Feed 1: 3 apples

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Originally Posted by LyricalMelody

Data Gathering
I want to gather data on single-step color changes with a single snack type.

Please submit this Data Gathering Form

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I submitted the info I've previously posted in this thread to you, since I've been changing my chocobos colors that way. Good luck figuring out how things work!

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Originally Posted by Miste

Fed my Chocobo 15 Darken Blue fruits. 13/15 of them gave the growing new feathers message.

Ended up with Lavender Purple.

I was trying to get blue, I am assuming I have to feed him some lighten red fruits? Since I think Red + Blue = Purple

http://i.imgur.com/JCN1Zik.png

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Originally Posted by Miste

From Lavender Blue, I fed 10 more darken blue, 7/10 of them gave the growing new feathers message and I got Othard Blue.

Any ideas how to go from Othard Blue to Peacock Blue? I am unsure whether to lighten blue or deepen green to get there...cause I don't know if lightening blue will just do the opposite of deepen blue and bring me back to Lavender Purple..

http://i.imgur.com/2chjKSt.png

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Okay, as per some advice I fed my chocobo mamook pears until I got the message that new feathers are growing. I waited and I got Peacock Blue now ^^

So it seems one darken green from Othard Blue that gives the new feathers message will give you Peacock Blue. I want to try to get Seafog Blue now...I'm wondering if it would take 1 more darken green or if you should lighten blue for it?

http://i.imgur.com/Uhn3opI.png

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Originally Posted by Lumia

You need to deepen green. I would do it one feather message at a time until you get there.

Edit: try pears =)

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Thanks xD it worked!

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Originally Posted by Zaes

Still looking for any sign of Grape Purple out there.

So far my bird has gone:

Desert Yellow --> 16 Apples, 15 Berries (6hr Later)
Dalamud Red --> 5 Berry *feather change on the 5th* (6h later)
Rolanberry Red --> 4 Berry *feather change on the 4th* (6h later)
Regal Purple --> 5 Berry *feather change on the 5th* (6h later)

Left me at Royal Blue. I just fed it one Valfruit which gave me a feather message and then 30s later an apple which also gave me a feather message.

The RBG values on the spreadsheet for royal blue are pretty close to grape just a bit more red and less blue so I'm thinking I should be somewhat in the ballpark.

But if anyone's seen info on it thus far let me know!

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Is there a more direct route to Dalamud Red other than going Desert Yellow first?

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Originally Posted by Woona

Can we get a pic during the day. Cause you know, a black chocobo during the night >_> can't see how good the feathers look.

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http://i.imgur.com/EL8S0d1.png
Night atm, this feeding pic is the best I can do for now

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Originally Posted by Zuro

http://i.imgur.com/EL8S0d1.png
Night atm, this feeding pic is the best I can do for now

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And now comes bragging rights. Anyway, I hope you don't mind I quoted your posts in my thread over here.

For the people who've gotten Turquoise, or have a decent grasp of the system, any suggestions of how I should proceed from Celeste Green to Turquoise?

On the dye scale it seems like a mint green/light turquoise, so hopefully it wouldn't take much. I'm tempted to keep adding dark green and dark blue, hmmm.

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Originally Posted by Solstyce

So pretty! How'd you get to that color? :D

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Go back about 10+ pages. I posted as detailed as I could with what I fed ^^

Where do you buy the seeds initially?

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Originally Posted by eternistarr

Where do you buy the seeds initially?

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Buy them in your GC from the Hunts Billman (If I got the name right) with allied seals. Each seed costing 15 allied seals. Bear in mind, the seeds are untradeable but the fruit is tradeable.

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Originally Posted by eternistarr

Where do you buy the seeds initially?

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Hunt Billmaster. They cost 15 allied seals.

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Originally Posted by Miste

Thanks xD it worked!

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One more feather message using pears will give you Turquoise Green.

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Originally Posted by Aaramis

Is there a more direct route to Dalamud Red other than going Desert Yellow first?

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Desert yellow is the default color of every chocobo, you will always start from it.

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Originally Posted by Zuro

http://i.imgur.com/EL8S0d1.png
Night atm, this feeding pic is the best I can do for now

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the soot black chocobo looks so amazing. thanks for providing a picture and proof and saying some of the steps you took to get it.

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Originally Posted by Zuro

I don't quite remember how I got from blood red to loam bown, but after getting Loam Brown feed it 2 berries, 1 Pear to Deepwood green.

From deepwood green, 1 Valfruit to soot black.

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Interesting, so at the deepest green, a green lightener made it black. Trying out a pineapple on my ink blue bird now.

I'm at Mesa Red (118, 51, 4) at the moment. What should I feed it next to aim for Soot Black? I need to lower the number on the red (118).

From Rolanberry Red to Regal Purple with 1 plum
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psd76216c7.png

>:( Really not happy at the moment.

For some god only knows reason my Chocobo's colors reset to the default yellow when I logged back on this morning
Last night the color was Millioncorn Yellow and I feed it 5 Valfruit and 5 plums then logged out for the night, now I am over 100,000 Gil poorer
and I have nothing to show for it!!

Regal Purple > Blood Red.
http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/...psce3c953d.png

http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/...ps90a764d2.png

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Originally Posted by Alexeia21

Regal Purple > Blood Red.

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hmm.. I'm trying to get to sunset from regal purple.. so close but I like the blood red.

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Originally Posted by blueruckus

Interesting, so at the deepest green, a green lightener made it black. Trying out a pineapple on my ink blue bird now.

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Click me!

Following these words lead me right where I wanted to go, as well as that spreadsheet with the colors. I automatically assumed things were increased by +6/-6

So finalizing my process, I settled with Corpse Blue. These steps were taken in small batches versus large ones like some here have chosen.

2x Plum and 2x Berries got the new feathers message, which resulted in Lime Green. 1x berry got the feather message and resulted in Ul Brown, 3x Berries resulted in the feather message and Gobbiebag Brown, 1x Pear and 4x Berries resulted in Goobue Grey with two feather messages, 2x plum resulted in Corpse Blue.

Grand total is 10 Berries, 4 Plums and 1 Pear.

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Originally Posted by Zuro

Click me!

Following these words lead me right where I wanted to go, as well as that spreadsheet with the colors. I automatically assumed things were increased by +6/-6

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Can you point me out in the right way towards soot black from coeurl yellow? :/
I'm so confused with all of this. The more i try to deepen colors, the further from black i get... ;_;

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Originally Posted by MrsVolfield

Can you point me out in the right way towards soot black from coeurl yellow? :/
I'm so confused with all of this. The more i try to deepen colors, the further from black i get... ;_;

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Keep in mind, this is not a complete 100% exact science yet, and will take a few Plumage changes to better guide you toward the color you want.

Here is the color chart for COEURL YELLOW:

182R 129G 3B

I would recommend the following for starters:

x10 O'ghomoro Berry
x3 Mamook Pear

What this should do is greatly reduce your Chocobo's RED color (which Coeurl Yellow is high in) while raising your BLUE color a bit (which it is very low in).
The green will also decrease by a small amount (theoretically).

If you report back the plumage color change after this feed, we can help you again to direct it more toward your desired color or Soot Black.

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Originally Posted by MrsVolfield

Can you point me out in the right way towards soot black from coeurl yellow? :/
I'm so confused with all of this. The more i try to deepen colors, the further from black i get... ;_;

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Start feeding it some berries to raise the blue value, but lower the green and red.

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Originally Posted by Ravenguard

Keep in mind, this is not a complete 100% exact science yet, and will take a few Plumage changes to better guide you toward the color you want.

Here is the color chart for COEURL YELLOW:

182R 129G 3B

I would recommend the following for starters:

x10 O'ghomoro Berry
x3 Mamook Pear

What this should do is greatly reduce your Chocobo's RED color (which Coeurl Yellow is high in) while raising your BLUE color a bit (which it is very low in).
The green will also decrease by a small amount (theoretically).

If you report back the plumage color change after this feed, we can help you again to direct it more toward your desired color or Soot Black.

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Going to try this value. Will report back in 6-9 hours. I'm GMT and it's 3AM.


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Screenshot.

Alright so before I start wasting more fruit, would anyone be able to help me get my chocobo from coral pink to grape purple? If anyone is interested in how i attained coral pink, it was 2 sessions. 1st session= 5 Valfruit. 2nd session= 5 O'ghomoro berries and 5 Xelphotol apples.

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Originally Posted by RavinousKurohi

Alright. So going for midnight blue from desert yellow:

Xelphatol apple to start the timer
2 apples no message
4 apples with message
4 pears with message
25 berries with message
1 apple with message
1 pear with message
1 apple with message
1 pear with message

My thought is that with that many berries I might hit the max blue and having apples and pears before and after will help darken it without losing too much blue.

5 hours left 'till result.

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And the result is:
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...014_191539.png

Regal Purple!

I have now fed it:
1 pear to start timer
1 pear with message
2 berries with message

Here's hoping for midnight blue in another 6 hours.

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Originally Posted by MrsVolfield

Going to try this value. Will report back in 6-9 hours. I'm GMT and it's 3AM.


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GMT+1*

UK and Ireland on Daylight savings is GMT+1. Only reason I say this is for future reference as Server Time will follow your local time. However, live letters will continue to use GMT time zone reference. So right now if they say LL at 4pm GMT, it will be 5pm for you because of daylight savings putting you on GMT+1.

Anyway, back to this:

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Originally Posted by Zuro

Click me!

Following these words lead me right where I wanted to go, as well as that spreadsheet with the colors. I automatically assumed things were increased by +6/-6

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I want to try and put together a spreadsheet to do all the calculations, it would require simply putting in the values of your choco's current colours and the values of your desired colours. There are discrepancies I can't take into account such as:

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

Meaning that a lighten red fruit can decrease the red value from -3 to -6 while simultaneously increasing the green/blue values from +3 to +6; your mileage may vary.

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But I am only working on the skeleton of it right now.

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Originally Posted by venom0713

Alright so before I start wasting more fruit, would anyone be able to help me get my chocobo from coral pink to grape purple? If anyone is interested in how i attained coral pink, it was 2 sessions. 1st session= 5 Valfruit. 2nd session= 5 O'ghomoro berries and 5 Xelphotol apples.

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Let's see.

Coral Pink
200R 101G 87B

Grape Purple
52R 36G 54B

You're going to want the GREENs and BLUEs to stay roughly similar right off the bat (for the eventual drop in all colors), so you're going to want to decrease your REDs first and foremost.

Try this initially:

x10 O'ghomoro Berry
x10 Mamook Pear

What this should so is cause a HUGE drop of the RED's if your Chocobo's plumage, while stopping his GREENs and BLUEs from increasing or decreasing.

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Originally Posted by Keroa

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*Goobue grey became Lavender purple.
*Lavender purple became plum purple. Feeding pear to test color reversal theory. Results pending.
*Blood red to Dalamund red on one berry confirmation. This makes two incidents I have witnessed one berry message resulting in dalamund red. possibly a confirmed method to obtain Dalamund red. she is now trying for Rolanberry red with one more Berry confirmation. Results pending. (We're running low on berries. Surprise, lol)
*FC leader turned out gobbiebag brown. Adding pear and valfruit in an attempt to pull out the greens and darken the other hues. Results pending.
*Millicorn Yellow birds have not been fed.

This time I started with Corpse Blue and gave berries til I got one feather message which was 4 more berries and the result was Lavender Purple. After seeing how that looked with my Amon set I decided to stay here for now. I may eventually push for a darker blue again but pretty happy with this.

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Originally Posted by Ravenguard

Let's see.

Coral Pink
200R 101G 87B

Grape Purple
52R 36G 54B

You're going to want the GREENs and BLUEs to stay roughly similar right off the bat (for the eventual drop in all colors), so you're going to want to decrease your REDs first and foremost.

Try this initially:

x10 O'ghomoro Berry
x10 Mamook Pear

What this should so is cause a HUGE drop of the RED's if your Chocobo's plumage, while stopping his GREENs and BLUEs from increasing or decreasing.

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thanks! ill try that.

So, from charcoal gray I am trying to get soot black. Last night I fed my chocobo 1 Mamook Pear (got the message), 1 Xelphatol Apple (got the message), and 2 O'Ghomoro Berries (no message for either). I ran out of O'Ghomoro Berries. This morning, there was no change. So I fed him 2 O'Ghomoro Berries (got the message), 1 Mamook Pear (got the message), and 2 Xelphatol Apples (got the message). He turned Nophica Green... I then fed him 1 apple (got message) and one berry (got message). Now he turned Shadow Blue!

http://i1374.photobucket.com/albums/...ps94910257.png

I think I might just keep this color.

This confuses the crap out of me...lol

From Rolanberry to Abyssal was 10 berries and 4 pear, only the last 3 of each gave the feather message. So, I'll assume it's 3 berry and 3 pear that actually took
Finally out of the red loop, and think I'm closer to the Currant purple I want.


http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...014_224502.png
This color is kind of cool though :p

just fed 3 apple and 1 pear only the last apple gave message and the pear gave message. See what happens in 6 hours.

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Originally Posted by Resolute

So, from charcoal gray I am trying to get soot black. Last night I fed my chocobo 1 Mamook Pear (got the message), 1 Xelphatol Apple (got the message), and 2 O'Ghomoro Berries (no message for either). I ran out of O'Ghomoro Berries. This morning, there was no change. So I fed him 2 O'Ghomoro Berries (got the message), 1 Mamook Pear (got the message), and 2 Xelphatol Apples (got the message). He turned Nophica Green... I then fed him 1 apple (got message) and one berry (got message). Now he turned Shadow Blue!

I think I might just keep this color.

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Ok, bear with me on this one, but I might have an idea. Lets lay the groundwork out on this one:

Shadow Blue
49R 49G 64B

Soot Black
37R 35G 30B

Now this is where a bit of speculation comes in: I believe that each fruit will increase or decrease a value by a range of +/-3 to +/-6. To try to round out the RNG, I am going to use an average of +/-5 for each fruit. Going on that assumption, here is what I recommend (and please don't hate me if this isn't 100%):

x2 Cieldalaes Pineapple
x4 Xelphatol Apple
x4 O'ghomoro Berry
x4 Mamook Pear

What the pineapple will do is attempt to lower your BLUE values below that of your GREEN and RED. After that, by feeding him an equal amount of Apples, Berries, and Pears, you will lower all three color values evenly, and hopefully drop them into the range of Soot Black.

As I stated above, I believe there is a slight RNG in how many points will be added or subtracted to each value when feeding any fruit, although theoretically this should place you around your desired plumage color.

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Originally Posted by Ravenguard

Ok, bear with me on this one, but I might have an idea. Lets lay the groundwork out on this one:

Shadow Blue
49R 49G 64B

Soot Black
37R 35G 30B

Now this is where a bit of speculation comes in: I believe that each fruit will increase or decrease a value by a range of +/-3 to +/-6. To try to round out the RNG, I am going to use an average of +/-5 for each fruit. Going on that assumption, here is what I recommend (and please don't hate me if this isn't 100%):

x2 Cieldalaes Pineapple
x4 Xelphatol Apple
x4 O'ghomoro Berry
x4 Mamook Pear...

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Issue here is, you don't know the current values of the chocobo. The shadows could only be rounded off to give Shadow Blue right now so it would all have to be a rough guesstimate right now. Still trying to figure mine out :/

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Originally Posted by Barboron

Issue here is, you don't know the current values of the chocobo. The shadows could only be rounded off to give Shadow Blue right now so it would all have to be a rough guesstimate right now. Still trying to figure mine out :/

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You're right, I don't know the current values, which is why it gets harder to do minor changes in color variance when people are so close to their desired color.
I mainly go off the assumption that to reach certain colors you need to fall in a "color range" (I.e. 30-40R, 30-40G, 25-35B for Soot Black), and then (as you read above) I reduce what I believe are some RNG by offering a flat integer as an "average".

I try to preface every post saying that I am not 100% and this is only my assumptions based on correlating everyone's past data, as well as trials of my own.