The pressure to skip cut-scenes!

I don't mind people watching the cutscenes, it's a story dungeon after all, but it gets frustrating when one of them seems to me writing an essay of the cutscene and takes thrice the time as the rest of the members that watched it or go afk.

Seeing all this talk about who is selfish, those who insist on watching the CS or those who insist others should skip it. It made me think how selfish I was yesterday.

Leveling ARC up through dungeon runs. Queued for Sastasha and then went back to gathering. DF pops and I go in. The run starts off slow because you could tell the GRD tank was brand new. body pulling not using Flash etc. I'm thinking "damn it this run is going to take forever, I've got to speed things up".

So I asked the tank if he had Shield Lob. He said yes. I then explained that it is a great ability to pull with and it builds enmity. I then asked if he would like some tips. He said sure. So I told him to pull with lob and then use a couple of flashes to get enmity for the group. Also that Fast blade builds enmity.
I also decided to mark the kill order for the mobs. The run went a lot faster and I was able to earn my xp and get a couple of armor upgrades in the run.

Man my selfishness really paid off.

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Originally Posted by RaidenTaichou

Just go to the inn and watch them....nothing is more annoying then 7 people twiddling their thumbs for 2-3 mins so some RPer can watch every second of every scene when he can easily do that after in the inn on his own time.

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sure there is. dealing with 7 arrogant litt;le twits who cant be bothered to wait for your cutscenes to finish because omg it might slightly impact their loot per hour.

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

Only it isn't.

One person is trying to experience and enjoy the content/story as SE designed and intended it to be.
Another person is trying to tell them they can't and to skip it.

There's absolutely no parity there.

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Its not 'another person' its 7 people waiting for 1.

Lol just watch them anyway. What are they gonna do? Leave? Of course not.

I very much look forward to hitting the level 50 dungeons and sitting through every one of my cut scenes in their entirety. I'm playing a SCH right now so go ahead... make my day. Complain at me. See how far that gets you when the damage starts flying.

I'm playing for story. I replay dungeons over and over, for gear and because I know I can heal pretty darn well so far and it helps people get dungeons done... there are a LOT of DD and not a ton of Tanks and Healers in comparison. I don't consider myself even REMOTELY selfish, rather I go out of my way to help other players whenever possible. That said, I will not let it slide if people complain about skipping cut scenes, esp right at the launch of a game. Grow up, people. Let people enjoy the game.

I always ask people to skip. I don't yell at them or forced them, I ask. If they want to sit there and watch them all, there's nothing I can do about it and I just suck it up. However, that does not mean it is not rude to hold up 7 other people for what you want to do. It does go both ways, but if either side is rude about it, they are in the wrong.

You can view them in the inn. Its just not under story, its under Duty.

I think they could:

1. Add an option in the duty finder to be grouped up with people who are doing it the first time. That way, if you want to watch the CS, then you can check that option and be grouped with like-minded people. Other people who aren't doing it the first time can pick to be paired with people who have also done the dungeon before or with first-timers if they don't mind waiting.

2. Pause the dungeon timer until everyone has finished watching the CS and restrict movement like they do at the beginning of the dungeon. That way, no one's penalized for wanting to experience the story, and no one can run off ahead of the team and end up getting the team wiped.

"7 people waiting for 1" happens once for that character, any other time they run the dungeon they'll get the brief intro and boss appearance and that is it. You can shuffle off out of the instance if it bothers you that much. As time goes on less and less people will be in the dungeon for the story. I inconvenience 3 or 7 people... once per dungeon. That's assuming every one of them isn't doing it for the first time.

I had a run of Toto-Rak where the tank didn't pay attention and started the boss fight whilst the DD were both watching the cut scene (I had the short scene and thus got sucked into the room). We duo'd it, but I felt bad for the entirety of it, they had no part in the fight. If we had been locked like at the entrance we'd have had no problem. I'd like to see that more.

The cut scene haters should avoid Brayflox after maintenance, because that's where I'm headed next :)

I had a guildie watch his cutscene for first time after being warned by tank to not watch or he will leave, the tank left and the healer because they were friends. Bad form. I know it's a game but must you act like little kids? Free company is the empire on coerul, avoid at all costs if those are the type of members they allow in. I would never do that and I'm the healer so good luck finding another group if you leave.

Yeah, sorry but I'm not going to be pressured to skip FFXIV's story. That's one of the best parts about this game, and I want to experience it when it's relevant.
After I've seen it I'll be skipping it too, but I'm not going to give anyone flak if they want to watch it.

Get a premade if your expectations for speed runs is that high or get use to it only a week into a game with new ppl barely reaching end game content.

I got yelled at today for watching the cut scene.

I'm playing on my PS3 while I wait for Square to correct my Account service 2 to 1.

PS3 takes awhile to load, apparently.

After I was done with my cutscence, I see in chat,

"That Stupid @W#$#@$@#$#@ is still watching the cut scense???!! FSR#E@#KCIN LOSER. WASTING OUR TIME. I'M GOING TO BLACKLIST THIS STUPID BASTARD AND EMBARASS HIM ON THE FORUM. SMH"

In one of my groups a couple nights ago, one of the tanks announced that everyone needs to skip cutscenes. Someone in the group said they wanted to watch them because it was their first time, and the tank left the group. Then half the group left after him, and we had to wait 10 + minutes more for the duty finder to re-queue the group back to full.

In another group, the tanks kept starting bosses before everyone was finished viewing cut scenes, and people got cut off from the fights.

In another group, they cursed out the healer for watching a cut scene, because the tank started early and the group wiped because 1 of the healers wasn't healing.

All and all, it's a terrible situation, and it needs to be addressed. I don't know what the solution is though. Not much you can do about human nature. Perhaps in future expansions the cut scenes for Duty Finder content should be a little shorter though. Leave the long cut scenes for the end of the instance, or for solo play.

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Originally Posted by Veis

Please don't enable them to ruin the fun of others game.

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Please do not enable people to ruin the fun of the game by supporting people who cannot watch the scenes in the Inn room. People work on tight schedules, some cannot watch the cutscenes while progressing to get the fights done in a timely manner. If you watch the full cutscene your being rude while in a fight. You can watch your character in a cutscene in your in room while not detracting from others players play time. If you want to watch cutscenes during a fight I reccommend joing a FC/LS that has times to fight such events while watching the cs. The best for both worlds is for everyone to watch the cutscenes in the inn room. It does not hinder you or the other players play time.

I watch the cutscene, why?

1. Because I'm a *** apparently.
2. Because I'm normally a healer so if you don't like it, tough.
3. Complain? Good luck surviving Brayflox with a healer who won't heal you when you are poisoned.
4. Huh, maybe I am a ***.
5. And finally, it's Final Fantasy. It's about the story idiots :V

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Originally Posted by BlackShroudMercs

Oh so that list called the never ending story or whatever doesn't let you view dungeon movies ? Thought it did, well dude who really cares? If you want to watch the movie watch it, not like people have an option to kick you..

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No, but your tank can leave the group and cause you to have to re-queue. Also, the people in your group can say horrible mean things to you if you don't skip them. People can be really cruel over this.

It's a good thing most of the time I do story related dungeons with friends. The duty finder in general is a choice I try to avoid if I can. The fairness on both sides of the equation balance out to zero, I think. People are right to think either way, and so I say do what you want. Complain if you think it gets you anywhere and watch your cutscenes if you love them!

lol, I noticed that the other day. I mean im not high level or anything so no whiny ADD babies have shown up yet but I skipped the intro to Tam-Tara, and noticed it said who was still watching the scene. I remember thinking, "ooo thats not going to go well later on." Coming from SWTOR, I know first hand how annoying those grunting monkeys are. I skipped the cut-scenes myself after the 5th time but never gave anyone a hard time about it. Luckily I was the tank back then (before the group finder even) and could shut em up. Those scenes are there to be seen by players and even if you do get grouped with some dude that has some crazy OCD and just HAS to see it every ... single ... time ... he has every right to do so.

These scenes arent even long at all compared to SWTOR and the longest (by far) on that game was about 15 minutes total (Black Talon, Empire side). Yes, I timed it myself.

I always thought it was a bad idea to combine story and group content in any game, specially here in the west. Personally I think if a group has someone making a first run, that the cutscenes should be unskipable.

Nice to know this is what I have to look forward to at 50. Getting yelled at for watching cutscenes. And just a week after release no less. Sigh.
Sorry, but watching them at the inn just isn't the same.

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Originally Posted by RaidenTaichou

Just go to the inn and watch them....nothing is more annoying then 7 people twiddling their thumbs for 2-3 mins so some RPer can watch every second of every scene when he can easily do that after in the inn on his own time.

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Way to ruin game immersion, next time ill be sure to not even click threw cutscenes when im asked to and leave my char sitting there in the duty.

I expierienced this crap the first time today beating the main quest line also. Funny it was also the douchebags that kept laying there dead while the new commers were on point. What are they gonna do about it other then whine like this loser^

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

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When I want to watch cutscenes I turn off party chat. I'm the tank so I get to be the boss.

No pressure. No one tells me how to enjoy the game. If you want to watch them when they come up, do it. They will one day get over it.

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Originally Posted by RaidenTaichou

Its not 'another person' its 7 people waiting for 1.

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"YOU GOT THE NUMBERS WRONG IN MY MADE UP SCENARIO"

And sometimes it's 7 new players and 1 wants to skip. Your numbers mean nothing.

The way dungeons and main story was merged was a bad move. Main story should have brought you to the dungeon and given you a solo instance for the story. Doing the story mode solo would unlock the Group Dungeon version which would be the same story just more mobs and tougher. This way you wouldn't have to sit in duty finder for hours if your not a healer/tank when all you want to do is continue with your story. Also if it was done this way you could have a toggle in the game settings to Auto Skip Cutscenes You Have Already Viewed.

I'm sure that, to some people, having to follow the main story is something irritating that you have to rush through in the race to bag achievements and the best gear. They've probably been skipping cutscenes and conversations with questgivers throughout (I've certainly read comments that the main quest line is too long and questgivers talk too much) - they're here to "win" a a game, insomuch as you can "win" at an MMORPG, by getting to be the best they can be as fast as possible. Of course, there's nothing wrong with that style of play, and plenty of people enjoy MMORPGs for that.

But for me and plenty of others, the storyline is something that we've invested a fair number of hours in following, and have read and listened to everything throughout. I really like that FFXIV puts an effort into making your character the centre of an epic story in a well-realised world, something which I haven't personally experienced before in an MMO. Running through these story dungeons for the first time isn't so much about playing a game as it is experiencing a story in the world that SE have created. So I fully intend to watch the cutscenes when I get to level 50. I don't want to fast-forward to the end and then fill in what I missed later... that would be such a disappointing climax to the story (one which I've heard has a pretty good ending, too). Yes, I might then afterwards want to repeat them for rewards I didn't get the first time, and then I'll be happy to let others watch the cutscenes themselves if it's their first time. And I do try to read fast to keep the wait time down for anyone who isn't watching.

I agree it would be nice if the DF supported both styles of play, though, by allowing you to choose whether you want to run with first-timers or not.

I wouldn't mind if people watched the cut scenes if the timers stopped. Some people are slow readers

One would think that these people wanting to speed through these as fast as possible would get all the people they need up front, thus eliminating the variable of getting someone from DF who would watch the cutscene.

It's not your fault they're too fail to get the people they need from their FC. Watch the cutscene.

Im, watching cut scenes, real hard core FF fan here, I play to watch the story...Titan today was epic, probably watch that every time I play it. It wont kill them to wait, especially if its my first time to see the scene...I do skip text it if I seen it before. No one should feel bad for watching, and enjoying to do so...The story, cut scene movies are always so epic in FF...wish they were longer.

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Originally Posted by RaidenTaichou

Its not 'another person' its 7 people waiting for 1.

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Mob rules? ..... great

If they give me that much grief when I get there I'll tell them to stuff it. I'm watching them all once, and chances are I'll never see the impatient fools again. If you're in a hurry to farm your brains out and don't want to bother getting a static or FC friends that's fine, but that doesn't entitle you to ruin my fun :P

I like COOKIES with my CS!!!

I will watch the cutscenes as they happen, and any a-hole who tries to rush me or insult me, just gets ignored/blacklisted and will sit and wait while they have an aneurysm. I'm playing the game as it was designed, and if you don't like it, disband, If I can't go on without you, I will get in the queue again and do FATE's or my Hunters Log in the mean time, screw you, I'm enjoying what I paid for. Not my fault you're trying to max out during your free 30 day period.
It's called common courtesy, and if its the first time it's pointed out to you in any form of interaction with people, then you're a sad and pathetic individual

I have seen the "Skip" crowd in a number of games (star wars, guild wars, vindictus) and my answer is always the same. I will skip them after i have seen em all the first time. Having the inn is nice but i agree that it's not the same. However i also agree that the timer should pause while some one is watching it and have the door locked so the party couldn't abuse the paused timer.

What people don't realize is that you can't watch cut scenes from Praetorium in your Inn. So you're going to call someone rude for wanting to enjoy content in a game that they paid for? If you're looking for a speed run, or a dungeon under specific conditions create your own group, don't PUG up with random people and then call them rude for not obliging your needs.

I do Praetorium all the time myself for the Tombstones, but it really doesn't bother me that they like watching the cut scenes. I'm happy that they're enjoying the game, and sometimes half my group is talking about the story or other stuff from the dungeon. I hate when someone comes in and tries to push everyone else around because they just want to get their stones and leave.

Seriously, how long are the cut scenes on average? 40-60 seconds? Not being 50 yet, I haven't experienced this myself but I am already out of patience for people like this. Anyone watching the cut scene is obviously new to the dungeon and doing it for the story. Give them a break. Anyone who calls it "rude" can go suck an egg.

I watched all the cut-scenes during my first run of the story, all people can do is moan, its not going to effect you, plus it just crushes their souls when all their provocations fall of deaf ears.

Look you're the one enjoying the game. If you want to watch the cutscenes please do. Enjoy them! And if someone tries to piss on that then tell them to bug off.