this new game director producer does not know what he is doing.

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Originally Posted by Argh

if this game had pvp elements to it i would camp you mancats all day every day. if the game did not allow corps-looting i would camp your respawn graves until you called a gm crying for a teleport away from the "madness".

yeah, i am a pvp'er when it comes to mmo's. i always wished FFXI had open pvp so i can use my neckchopper for that prick of an off-tank that did not pull hate off me because he did not want to die and lose xp, which resulted in me dying during that failed pull in quifim. but i also enjoy my pve. and at the top of MY list is the dangerous world of an mmo with at least some sandbox elements.

i bet you think i sound angry. but you would be wrong. these are just memories. a challanging mmo should not be frowned upon. the challange is what creates the atmosphere. the atmopshere is what gets engraved in your heads. the most memoriable times in your mmo careers will be those tough situations where you lost. you will look back at those and say "man those were good times."

now all we have is players going "WHA! WHA! i don't wanna travel. i don't wanna die, i hate 2 minute res sicknesses! i don't wanna socialize! WHA WHA!"

if this game doesn't change it deserves everything it will get. it deserves the hole it dug itself into. if SE is smart the board of directors would fire the ceo and his replacement should appoint a gamer to lead this project, not someone that is shaking in his boots.

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I can relate you to the fat guy on the South Park WoW episode.

Ooh oooooh! Did i offend you?

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Originally Posted by Argh

if this game had pvp elements to it i would camp you mancats all day every day. if the game did not allow corps-looting i would camp your respawn graves until you called a gm crying for a teleport away from the "madness".

yeah, i am a pvp'er when it comes to mmo's. i always wished FFXI had open pvp so i can use my neckchopper for that prick of an off-tank that did not pull hate off me because he did not want to die and lose xp, which resulted in me dying during that failed pull in quifim. but i also enjoy my pve. and at the top of MY list is the dangerous world of an mmo with at least some sandbox elements.

i bet you think i sound angry. but you would be wrong. these are just memories. a challanging mmo should not be frowned upon. the challange is what creates the atmosphere. the atmopshere is what gets engraved in your heads. the most memoriable times in your mmo careers will be those tough situations where you lost. you will look back at those and say "man those were good times."

now all we have is players going "WHA! WHA! i don't wanna travel. i don't wanna die, i hate 2 minute res sicknesses! i don't wanna socialize! WHA WHA!"
if this game doesn't change it deserves everything it will get. it deserves the hole it dug itself into. if SE is smart the board of directors would fire the ceo and his replacement should appoint a gamer to lead this project, not someone that is shaking in his boots.

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It doesn't sound like you have had very meaningful socializing from this statement.

The last dying gasps of the hardcores who just want everything so hard that it makes them feel like SPECIAL and WINNER compared to alllll the losers.

This was a great patch.

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Originally Posted by Argh

NM's pop as fast as regular mobs and appear to have a 100% drop rate.

parties are awarded an automatic buff when formed.

just did an 8 man behest and it ended about 10 meters where it started from. mobs .

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This world is definitely full of low IQ and low EQ human.

Let me teach you what to do : Stop complaing or stop playing the game or go to make your own game or get lost and go to play other games. Problems fixed.

K Bye Thanks.

P/S Btw, I am damn satisfied with what Yoshi been doing and contributing. He is the reason why i am still playing and got hope about this game.

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Originally Posted by Chezen

And what exactly are you imagining? *scared*

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I'm imagining a world where everyone doesn't use FFXI and Rift as a reference point for all of their ideas, clearly because they lack their own.

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Originally Posted by Argh

if SE is smart the board of directors would fire the ceo and his replacement should appoint a gamer to lead this project, not someone that is shaking in his boots.

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A gamer to lead this game?! Are you implying SE should hire you to lead this project? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA~

Anyway, Yoshi is a gamer himself + an experienced game developer. Get the fact right before you start flaming, stop making yourself look like an animal -> PIG. :D

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

You know what the biggest mistake of Square Enix was? These forums ....

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Trite and wrong in one. Its a two'fer!

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

I don't see why is it hard to add something for hardcore players and make casual meet us in the middle. For me casual players are being spoiled brats they know that the market is for casual players so they don't want to meet in the middle. Toss us a bone here bro -.- not everyone have only 3hours to play some players have many hours to play and want something fun to do that last more then 20mins

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and you acting the same demanding content for you only w/o thinking on how small the hc community really is. i could play ffxi for 20 hrs 7 day a week no issue, jusy not enough players to do the content. so i only saw 20% of the game even with long play time.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

so i only saw 20% of the game even with long play time.

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Hyperbole as usual. Arbitrary numbers are arbitrary.

When I was playing 11. I worked 50-70 hours a week. A house, kid, workout, do BJJ and managed to see more than "20%" of the game. I must me bizarrely efficient or maybe you're bizarrely inefficient.

Strange...

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Originally Posted by Chrees

Further proof that you have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about, due to the fact that you haven't even played the game. And you're at 1,655 posts? That's ridiculous.

The way character collision used to work is, another player/mob would stop you for about a second before you could simply pass through them. No griefing possible. End of story.

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i was basing it off another game. can we stop with the "you don't play" and the "your post count is high" bs... why attack me for putting in my 2 cents just fox my error and stfu.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Hyperbole as usual. Arbitrary numbers are arbitrary.

When I was playing 11. I worked 50-70 hours a week. A house, kid, workout, do BJJ and managed to see more than "20%" of the game. I must me bizarrely efficient or maybe you're bizarrely inefficient.

Strange...

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no the onlky free LS's broke up after petty loot fights. I tried looking for other Ls's that did content and all were full. try asking me wjat content I seen before personally attacking someone.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

try asking me wjat content I seen before personally attacking someone.

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No thanks. 20% is 20% right? Did you skip the 80% of the begging and saw the 20% of the end game stuff? It's like youre addicted to bankrupting your own points.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

why attack me for putting in my 2 cents just fox my error and stfu.

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Because you almost never know why you're talking about?

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Because you almost never know why you're talking about?

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says the guy who just harassed someone over game content >.> talk about a real weiner sorry winner

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

says the guy who just harassed someone over game content >.> talk about a real weiner sorry winner

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It would be more like: Says the guy who's actually played the game extensively Vs... you, lol.

1700+ post of you BSing your way through a game you have no idea about.

First, it most certainly not 100%. You know how many pairs of pants we got from that damn ant? TONS

Also, I would imagine they plan to cut anima down quite a large amount once we finally get Chocobo's (which I'm hoping is sooner than later since I saw that Gysahl Greens were added in the patch) and airships, so that it becomes simply a mode of fast travel not meant to be used extensively as we currently do.

Imagine if we had 10 anima with the current rates, but chocobos and airships were open, and I needed to be in Limsa in 40 minutes, yet I had a leve in Halatali which I needed to do beforehand. I would ride the chocobo to Halatali, and then use 6 of my 10 anima to teleport to Limsa to make it in time, then since there was no longer anything urgent going on, I could just take the airship back to Ul'dah. Sounds reasonable imo =V

Otherwise though, stop complaining, this isn't and never will be Final Fantasy XI-2

FFXIV has always always been touted as a casual MMO. If you bought into it and totally ignored this thinking it would really be hardcore heaven then isn't that your own fault?

People seem to be playing FFXIV and expecting it to be like FFXI during it's hardcore years, this is not going to be what they do with a new MMO. Hardcore players are far less valuable than casuals, this has been proven time and time again. For people pining for FFXI, maybe you need to go and see what Square have done to FFXI lately.

FFXI now is 100% a purely casual MMO, XP is incredibly easy and fast to get, you don't have to group ever, endgame is among the easiest and most casual of any MMO, the top tier endgame NMs repop in a matter of minutes, can all be duo'd and have upwards to 90% drop rate if you perform the correct WS, players get massive buffs making all the fights easy for any player. If you want to see how casual endgame is going to go in XIV you should probably go check out XI. Casual & hardcore all wear exactly the same easy to get gear.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

YOU don't know what you're doing.

As much as I dislike Yoshi for many of his additions, I hate you oh so much more for your rampant FFXI spouting filth. Go away.

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filth. lol. that's why i <3 you gifthorse.

I have always said from the get go April and May would be the deciding of this games future. If the May update is horrid and hardcore content is not properly added then I will probably no longer support this game. As of right now there are 3-4 Major things I expect to see in the May update...

Completion of the new Battle System
Proper Introduction of Companies
Hardcore Endgame Dungeons
Additional Travel Options

If 3 of these 4 things are not in 1.18 then I seriously doubt I will continue playing the game through the summer. The time for Half Measures and talk is past. I consider myself Hardcore, I do not like to get things easily, I was ecstatic seeing 20+ NM added to the game, I was disheartened at the 5 minute respawn times, I was even more disheartened when I found things to be worthless that the Monsters dropped because they are only good for 3-4 levels. I understand this is Midgame content and that is fine, but as of right now 60% of this game is capable of doing content at 50 and we still have no level 50 content.

Now I understand Yoshi has said from the get go 50 content cannot be implemented until the new battle Mechanics and system are in place. That is fine but that is also 30 days away... So as of now the clock is ticking and the Dev team is running out of time.

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Originally Posted by rainfish

FFXIV has always always been touted as a casual MMO. If you bought into it and totally ignored this thinking it would really be hardcore heaven then isn't that your own fault?

People seem to be playing FFXIV and expecting it to be like FFXI during it's hardcore years, this is not going to be what they do with a new MMO. Hardcore players are far less valuable than casuals, this has been proven time and time again. For people pining for FFXI, maybe you need to go and see what Square have done to FFXI lately.

FFXI now is 100% a purely casual MMO, XP is incredibly easy and fast to get, you don't have to group ever, endgame is among the easiest and most casual of any MMO, the top tier endgame NMs repop in a matter of minutes, can all be duo'd and have upwards to 90% drop rate if you perform the correct WS, players get massive buffs making all the fights easy for any player. If you want to see how casual endgame is going to go in XIV you should probably go check out XI. Casual & hardcore all wear exactly the same easy to get gear.

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You just stated the problems though. I am not trying to bash on anyone or trying to insult the developers, because they are definitely heading in the right directions but just need more time. Yet, I think we can all agree on a few things. A casual MMORPG is great and all, it attracts a larger player base, AT FIRST, but you can't make it too casual. If everyone gets to end game in a few weeks or days or whatever and they have literally been everywhere and done everything and there is no challenge then guess what, that huge player base you accumulated from making the game casual is going to disappear because it will eventually get boring. You need to have challenges and incredibly difficult quests and mobs to be in any MMORPG no matter how casual you want it to be. And yea, a lot of people will compare this game to FFXI, but the truth is, there is a lot of stuff this game can gain from past experiences with FFXI, a lot of things that will make the game better. All in all, the game isn't the best but is definitely getting better, with a lot of room for improvement of course.

Haven't we already been told that 1.18 will be the high-level dungeon?

Next update will be for high levels, this update was for mid-levels. There is more to life in Eorzea than endgame, you know. It's one friggin' patch. Deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Haven't we already been told that 1.18 will be the high-level dungeon?

Next update will be for high levels, this update was for mid-levels. There is more to life in Eorzea than endgame, you know. It's one friggin' patch. Deal with it.

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Yes and we were also told Companies would be in 1.17 which apparently they are not because I have yet to see 1 person say anything about companies. As I said in my earlier post that the midlevel content is fine, and I do not expect the high level content until the battle system is complete which we were told would be in 1.18 which is May.

company-related content. COMPANY-RELATED CONTENT. There are side-quests related to companies in 1.17.

Yoshida's done more to turn this game around than Tanaka did in his 5 years developing the game. Tanaka had his chance, we all saw how awful launch was. Now it's Yoshida's turn and I think he's doing great.

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Yes and we were also told Companies would be in 1.17 which apparently they are not because I have yet to see 1 person say anything about companies.

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Companies are in 1.17. But right now all you have access too is the storyline quest that results in the city-States establishing the Companies again.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

I'm imagining a world where everyone doesn't use FFXI and Rift as a reference point for all of their ideas, clearly because they lack their own.

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Oh. Ok then. :)

Its not like you can actually sell the gear, its just a way for people to get some gear without spending any gil on it. I personally enjoy the NM's gives me something to do.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

company-related content. COMPANY-RELATED CONTENT. There are side-quests related to companies in 1.17.

Yoshida's done more to turn this game around than Tanaka did in his 5 years developing the game. Tanaka had his chance, we all saw how awful launch was. Now it's Yoshida's turn and I think he's doing great.

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And I'm not denying that I think Yosdhida has been great with the fans, right now it is just not my cup of tea, I am entitled to my opinion as you are entitled to yours. I have given my personal deadline which is May for my decision on whether to stick with it or not. But once again my opinion.

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And I'm not denying that I think Yosdhida has been great with the fans, right now it is just not my cup of tea, I am entitled to my opinion as you are entitled to yours. I have given my personal deadline which is May for my decision on whether to stick with it or not. But once again my opinion.

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And that's perfectly fine, that would be the smart thing to do. If you're not enjoying a game, cut your losses and find something you do like. Some people are just going to stick around and complain about every last thing though.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

YOU don't know what you're doing.

As much as I dislike Yoshi for many of his additions, I hate you oh so much more for your rampant FFXI spouting filth. Go away.

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Why are you so butthurt over FFXI? Were you part of the Salvage bans? lol

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Why are you so butthurt over FFXI? Were you part of the Salvage bans? lol

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You should know by now not to pay attention to him.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

i was basing it off another game. can we stop with the "you don't play" and the "your post count is high" bs... why attack me for putting in my 2 cents just fox my error and stfu.

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Then stop making so many assumptions! It's as simple as that! If you don't know how something works in FFXIV, don't try and pretend you do just because "it worked that way in FFXI." More than half of your posts I've seen on these forums have been based on this logic, and all it does is make you look like a moron.

The reason so many people keep bringing up your post count is because you have probably the highest post count of all English-speaking players on these forums, even though you've never played the game. Something's obviously wrong there.

Please just use common sense when posting here. If you don't have anything meaningful to add to the conversation, then don't add anything at all, especially when it involves things that require you to have played the game. That's all I ask of you!

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Originally Posted by Ashgarth

NM's pop as fast as regular mobs and appear to have a 100% drop rate.
100% drop rate? Stop complaining in the forums and try to kill one.

Parties are awarded an automatic buff when formed.
And this is a bad thing because...

just did an 8 man behest and it ended about 10 meters where it started from. mobs were zerged to death once again.
So you did a behest with a full party and you won. Again, this is bad because...¿?

Took away collision detection from player to player for no reason.
I'm sure they woke up someday and said "Hey! let's take out collision detection!"

Wasted time enlarging mobs.
I'm sure that took them years of develpment time.

Announced instance dungeons over open battles.
Because when the dungeon was anounced it also said that we would not have open battles right? I wonder were did Yoshi-P said that...

No mention of camp and pull zones.
Why the hell would we want that? If you want to spend months in a single spot killing the exact same monster then go ahead and play FFXI, there's a bunch of tucans waiting for you.

Market wards still in game.
Since the search function was implemented I like the wards, It could be a bit more stable tho.

Pointless economic model still in place.
Explain this?

no risk vs. reward system in the world.
Because every time we lvled down in XI we had so much fun.

world still copy / pasted.
Completely redesigning and creating the current zones can be done in a couple months right?

No mention of getting rid of the teleportation & anima garbage.
You want to walk? walk all you want.

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+1 for this.
Nonconstructive whining is like trolling, please take a walk outside and go play something else.
Final Fantasy XIV should not be what keeps you alive, it is entertainment. Deal with the negative aspects of the game, submit constructive criticism or play another game (just like you would with any offline game).

You forget he is following a guideline set by Tanaka, he said he would continue to follow that guideline while adding stuff him and his team likes. Quit complaining at least we got some NMs at all this patch, I wasn't expecting any content. If you want something like FFXI go play FFXI scrubs. Sure the NM spawn times are a bit crazy but whatever I can live with it until further content comes out, just gives me something to do and the ability to help my lower level LS members get some good gear.

I do want something like FFXI, because FFXIV should have been an evolution, not regress to the primordial pool.

Search system was basic yet better
LFG system was basic yet better
Linkshell system was basic yet better (and more color choices even if people defaulted to white, blue, red or pink)

And so on, instead, a lot of these systems were a step back. NM pop timers of 5-92 hours (Magian Trial NMs..) however? That's one thing that even Square agreed should have been abolished.

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And that's perfectly fine, that would be the smart thing to do. If you're not enjoying a game, cut your losses and find something you do like. Some people are just going to stick around and complain about every last thing though.

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Yes it is true a lot of people do complain and offer 0 solutions, I have ideas and sadly I have no idea truly how to even get them to the dev team for serious consideration aside from getting 100 posts or 1000 views, thing is tho the dev team needs to have there own ideas as well so that we can get some ideas out of them.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

You know what the biggest mistake of Square Enix was? These forums ....

They never should have made these forums. They never should have asked us what we wanted. Since obviously it is impossible to please some of you ... just go play FFXI or any other game that pleases you, but please, just please shut up already with the endless not constructive crying.

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Best comment ever.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Best comment ever.

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this is a great comment, but I have a better one

"Square enix should have never launched this game"

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Originally Posted by Elexia

I do want something like FFXI, because FFXIV should have been an evolution, not regress to the primordial pool.

Search system was basic yet better
LFG system was basic yet better
Linkshell system was basic yet better (and more color choices even if people defaulted to white, blue, red or pink)

And so on, instead, a lot of these systems were a step back. NM pop timers of 5-92 hours (Magian Trial NMs..) however? That's one thing that even Square agreed should have been abolished.

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Dude... FFXI was a load of crap. Just because it was better in a few UI-related ways doesn't mean it was better.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

Dude... FFXI was a load of crap. Just because it was better in a few UI-related ways doesn't mean it was better.

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Nice sarcasm so I truly agree.

If you weren't being sarcastic, I highly doubt an MMO that's "a load of crap" would be in service for a decade+, what was crappy about it that doesn't include poor drop rates? As that's bad design in every MMO with less than 60%+ drop rate.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Nice sarcasm so I truly agree.

If you weren't being sarcastic, I highly doubt an MMO that's "a load of crap" would be in service for a decade+, what was crappy about it that doesn't include poor drop rates? As that's bad design in every MMO with less than 60%+ drop rate.

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Oh my god Jennestia. Are SE paying you or something?

FFXI was terrible, just terrible, with the exception of having nice atmospherics. And just because a game is enduring doesn't mean it's the best thing ever. Duh.

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Originally Posted by Neptune

filth. lol. that's why i <3 you gifthorse.

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Aw shucks.