Petition: Keep the Animation!~

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Originally Posted by Gramul

The one Yoshi and his team keep talking about.
The one they used to redesign the interface.
The one they used to add features like quick group.
The one they used to focus on the 'themepark' style.

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Interface works perfectly in this standart => keep them
Quick group is a bad idea i agree with you
FF11 was a theme park , 1.0 was also one , don't see what they would change these .

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Don't just throw around wild theories. Maybe if you didn't I would know what you're talking about other than being emotional over animations that add nothing to the game play and last about 0.5 seconds.

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Originally Posted by lololink

Interface works perfectly in this standart => keep them
Quick group is a bad idea i agree with you
FF11 was a theme park , 1.0 was also one , don't see what they would change these .

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I'm already saying I'm cool with the UI standard, I'm just pointing out to Hear No Evil that Yoshi himself said he's trying to bring it to the 'MMO standard'

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The result is a game that Yoshida claims lives up to the "global MMO standard."

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This is also change that is based on MMORPG standard.

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and why standart animation for our character running ( seriously the idea that there is multiple way to walk is kinda stupid ...)

Never thought i'd say this but i kind of agree with Rokien. I don't want those bland, empty looking animations =/

I dont really care that they took those animations away. Of course I would like them to be there still, as they were nice. However, seeing as they seem to have done it in order to make gameplay smoother I am perfectly fine with them being taken away. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the removal itself had at least a little to do with scaling the game to run well on a ps3.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

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Don't just throw around wild theories. Maybe if you didn't I would know what you're talking about other than being emotional over animations that add nothing to the game play and last about 0.5 seconds.

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woooow you are joking right? Content finder, level sync, ui, instances, theme park. Everythign yoshi is doing, is just what every other mmo has done in a different skin. He himself said he wants to standardize this game. He himself likes WoW and other theme park games. He had to explain the staff what the "standard" was.

You are ssoooooo in denial same with everyone else around here.

Oh, lets not forget about JUMP. He justs want's that for asthetics, nothing more, nothing less. It serves no real purpose, also another standard.

So why take out nice aesthetics and add crappy ones is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I wouldn't worry too much.
They recently said that the weapon animations weren't added yet, so I'm guessing that applies to our transition animations too. In any case, I think we need to find out if it's really being removed or not before we jump the gun.

It's really being removed, because Square is stupid and this community is so starved that they'll accept anything from Square as long as they say they're 'doing it for the gameplay'.

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Ayup. I wouldn't mention it though, you'll just get hundreds of threads mocking your slight grievance with the game, without understanding it. (grass)

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I'm already saying I'm cool with the UI standard, I'm just pointing out to Hear No Evil that Yoshi himself said he's trying to bring it to the 'MMO standard'

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Thanks, now point to me where it says that this change is connected to the MMO standard.

Because frankly, I don't see it.

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And so Final Fantasy XIV lives on, but the game is almost unrecognizable. The visuals have been greatly improved, powered as they are by a new graphics engine, which Yoshida says needed to be as impressive as possible, thanks to the long life span of the MMO. The animation engine has been overhauled too, with the niggling lag that made the game feel so sluggish now eliminated.

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adding the jumping is not a crappy aesthetic it's so that it don't become ridiculous that your char can't jump from a 1 m cliff ...

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Thanks, now point to me where it says that this change is connected to the MMO standard.

Because frankly, I don't see it.

From your own link:

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either way, doesn't matter you are in the minority here.

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Originally Posted by lololink

adding the jumping is not a crappy aesthetic it's so that it don't become ridiculous that your char can't jump from a 1 m cliff ...

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that is not why yoshi added it.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

that is not why yoshi added it.

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or the 1/4 a meter fences... How I hate thou..

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Originally Posted by Rokien

either way, doesn't matter you are in the minority here.

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0.0"? Seems to me like the "minority" is what yoshi is listening to then- you know, by improving this game past the pathetic fail it was since he took over-

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Originally Posted by Rokien

that is not why yoshi added it.

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Nah yoshi added it for puzzle jumping just like in GW 2 ... Oh wait that's the opposite !

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Originally Posted by Fensfield

'My priorities are the only proper ones. Nobody should value things differently to me.'

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Okay, that's a cheap way to dismiss someone's opinion. My point is that after spending months paying a $10 subscription people are acting like they'll ditch the game over a small removal of animation. We really should hold SE to high standards, but a slight aesthetic change is not the end of the world. Do you want the game to work or just look cool? I guess if people do leave over it they'll be replaced by low-end PC users who value the ability to play more.

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Originally Posted by Punainen

Whaaaat?? But how does animations stop them from focusing on mechanics?? The animations weren't just 'nice', they were downright spectacular, and made the movements look so realistic that I never thought my characters looked weird moving around (where as chocos don't have the animations, and I notice how weirdly they come to a stop all the time).

; ; I am so disappointed...

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When i first played this game. the first thing i said my char moves like crap and it still does.

What the.... has Rokien gone back to his old self? I normally hate all your posts the past few months but.... /liked

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Originally Posted by Rokien

either way, doesn't matter you are in the minority here.

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Majority of the overall market > majority of a XIV forum thread infested with people completely full of themselves.

The minorities are usually the loudest, and that would completely describe what is happening in this thread.

@Hiir- I would just ignore it. After reading the majority of the responses that the loudest few in this thread post, you know that it's more about what they think it has to be like, and then block off everything else.

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Originally Posted by Dawiichan

Majority of the overall market > majority of a XIV forum thread infested with people completely full of themselves.

The minorities are usually the loudest, and that would completely describe what is happening in this thread.

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These movement threads remind me of the PS1 RE fanboys who got angry cause they took out the clunky RE controls for better ones in RE4.

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Originally Posted by Firon

These movement threads remind me of the PS1 RE fanboys who got angry cause they took out the clunky RE controls for better ones in RE4.

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well they weren't wrong , the clunky RE controls have a good part in the scary part .I really can be at ease in RE 1-3 but in the 4th one it lost a lot of the scary parts .

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Originally Posted by lololink

well they weren't wrong , the clunky RE controls have a good part in the scary part .I really can be at ease in RE 1-3 but in the 4th one it lost a lot of the scary parts .

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None of them was scary you was just young or never played a game like it.

Maybe you don't find them scary but i do , i really cannot play to these game and being at ease .

Is Roiken even trying anymore?

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Originally Posted by Firon

When i first played this game. the first thing i said my char moves like crap and it still does.

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I was in the same boat when I started playing. The running/turning seemed sluggish. Eh, I don't care. Then again, I've never been much of a fanatic for over the top animations. Rpgs stopped being as fun for me when graphics became a higher priority than quality writers.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Wow.
You know what. Never mind.

You're right Rokien.

Reading that thread was such a disappointment. Someone notices the animations are gone in 2.0, and then people flood to defend square saying it's not even done. Then it turns out that they removed it on purpose, and everyone still praises them and this lack of foresight. Then someone makes a thread asking for the animations to stay, and you all jump at him like a pack of angry pigs.

It doesn't have to be an all or nothing situation. A simple cancel animation command any time a new movement is activated would fix this just fine.

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Might have something to do with his reputation on these forums.

I am a little disappointed but I'm willing to try the full game first.

There are many opinions and there are many things, many can be pleasant many more can be skipped, what SE is doing is cheeking how much can they skip to preserve costs, something sad in my point of view but and i say BUT, the animations are there they can add it on something else maybe inside town you will move like we do now maybe not, the whole thing about animations, its cause the frggin animation lock most if not all whined in and out so now we are just harvesting what we seed but asking for better crop.

So I think they shouldn't have removed all animations I mean why not leave them when the weapon is sheathed and just remove them when the weapon is drawn, would not that been enough?

Fluid Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aesthetic movement

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Originally Posted by Dawiichan

Majority of the overall market >

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Welcome to the massive assumptions thread. How do you know that people wouldn't enjoy fluid animations? When a large portion of the market has never been able to even experience it?

We still have no explination as to how the animations somehow effected gameplay, and until then we can only assume what we will.

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Originally Posted by lololink

Maybe you don't find them scary but i do , i really cannot play to these game and being at ease .

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Don't play Dead Space then you'll probably Crap yourself.

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Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon

I was in the same boat when I started playing. The running/turning seemed sluggish. Eh, I don't care. Then again, I've never been much of a fanatic for over the top animations. Rpgs stopped being as fun for me when graphics became a higher priority than quality writers.

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I agree with everything you just said this is why i don't play most games all they are is who can be flashiest now.

Edit: @ Jynx enough people experienced this clunky game at lunch and hated it. It's in several reviews how this game was and still is a clunky mess.

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Originally Posted by lololink

that trolling post already exist ...
you are not even trying to find your own trolling subject ...
Mizukage is better than you admit it !

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Implying my post is a troll post

You're the troll in here lololink.

My concern has cone true... :( the only MMORPG that ive play feeling freaking statisfied with the character animations is going to be a freaking butchibg f***ing toonish b@*tard...

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Originally Posted by Firon

Edit: @ Jynx enough people experienced this clunky game at lunch and hated it. It's in several reviews how this game was and still is a clunky mess.

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Yeah they all said that the smooth animations were the worst part right?

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Originally Posted by Nemy

Implying my post is a troll post

You're the troll in here lololink.

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ya he has like tons of lols in his name as well

nah i was just making fun of rokien .

Once again, stopped reading when I saw "Hello Rokien here"

Yay SE for ruining what made this MMO different from others! Woohooo >.>

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Originally Posted by shanvhere

Once again, stopped reading when I saw "Hello Rokien here"

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congratulations for being pointless. you don't have to post, nobody cares that you ddin't read it.

I think there's a difference of having these decorative additions on when just exploring and when in battle.
But when I want the character to stop running there is a way to make it look nice without giving away control.
Once again I think there's a bit of all or nothing black and white picture painted on these forums. Neither of the sides is 100% right but all are afraid of the extreme ends. (lack of control or crappy animations)