This kind of thing has to stop...

It is not the same Elexia, don't be stupid.

If you want to please (and by please, I mean troll) JPs, shout in English using Japanese phonetics and written in Katakana.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

It is not the same Elexia, don't be stupid.

If you want to please (and by please, I mean troll) JPs, shout in English using Japanese phonetics and written in Katakana.

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That won't troll us, just fyi -- Also in my example since Babydoll was pretty much referring to my post earlier it is pretty much the same thing; You'll have a Japanese person shouting in Japanese then add 'JP only', they're seeking for people who can speak Japanese, this is the case the majority of the time, much like you have players who will shout for BLMs only for encounters that people even used to stack Lancers for (Ifrit) -- It's just stating what your preference is. Some videos from Japanese players show them clearing Garuda hard with varied setups, but you take a step to NA/EU videos, you'll primarily see BRDs and BLMs, you'll rarely if at all ever see DRGs or MNKs.

If you can't see the similarity it's not a case of having or not having intelligence, it's missing the point.

Read through this thread, interesting issue. My opinion is that, frustrating as being kicked is, if someone has taken the time to create and build a Party then it's their call who stays and goes.

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

Sorry we are in the world wide web not the Japanese wide web, gtfo its a global community with its own etiquette. And I guess you are a Patriotic American with a raging boner for Japan??

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Im canadian, and I very much disprove of what you said as well.

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It's just stating what your preference is.

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Sure it is, like how they're shouting in Japanese isn't enough to state their preference. They take the time/effort to type out JP Onry in ENGLISH. Also the word "only" kinda takes away from your "I would prefer JP" theory.

I can understand in the case of Garuda and other endgame content. But for SB parties and stuff all you need are bodies. Kicking someone from that casual of content just being obtuse. Besides, being JP is so easily faked that you have to wonder why they even bother. Is it just that they don't wan to see the english letters on their screen? You don't have to be JP or speak JP to communicate in this game in Japanese. Especially for SB parties.

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Some videos from Japanese players show them clearing Garuda hard with varied setups, but you take a step to NA/EU videos, you'll primarily see BRDs and BLMs, you'll rarely if at all ever see DRGs or MNKs.

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I've never been able to clear Garuda with BLM/BRD set up. I don't think it really works.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

lol Maybe you should watch some NA/EU videos then.

I've never been able to clear Garuda with BLM/BRD set up. I don't think it really works.

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And yet a lot (if not most) people capped off on Garuda weapons when you could BLM burn her and the only change they did was make sure her 2hr triggers no matter what.

FFXIV: A Realm of Geopolitical Bickering.

You only have to have a clueless german tank or a jp whm that doesnt get gather together to understand the main motivation for preferring communication.

Sorry to interrupt your political discourses.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Sure it is, like how they're shouting in Japanese isn't enough to state their preference. They take the time/effort to type out JP Onry in ENGLISH. Also the word "only" kinda takes away from your "I would prefer JP" theory.

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When you get asked "Can you speak (Language)" in Japanese it generally translates to "Can you speak Japanese Language?" What you seem to not be understanding is Japanese =/= English, therefore a lot of interpretations are different -- English is much more open-ended where you can interpret things in multiple ways as you're doing here, however 'JP Only' generally means preferring people who can speak Japanese. As with everything there's exceptions, however with the people I run with who says it are referring to speaking it. Also quit with the "Onry" stuff, you honestly don't even see it, you don't even see it in the OP's Image, so if anything you're just furthering a generalization that doesn't exist most of the time, just because of the way the language is, you'll hear it, but rarely will you see it typed out -- Even native Japanese make fun of those who end up writing out certain words with an r.

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I can understand in the case of Garuda and other endgame content. But for SB parties

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So you're basically saying it's ok for one but not ok for anything else? You do know people can have preference for anything and everything, right? What if the leader was german and wanted only people who can speak the same language in their party? Would you raise the same stink over it?

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Is it just that they don't wan to see the english letters on their screen? You don't have to be JP or speak JP to communicate in this game in Japanese. Especially for SB parties.

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Once again "JP Only" generally refers to wanting people who can speak Japanese. It's not stating "Japanese person only". During XI's prime you even had someone interview a lot of Japanese players and the majority were referring to just that, so few were actually saying "no thank (NA/EU) person." The problem is very few people actually take the time to try to communicate in Japanese, they expect everyone to communicate in English -- I wouldn't have even bothered with English if it wasn't required for the international business world.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

When you get asked "Can you speak (Language)" in Japanese it generally translates to "Can you speak Japanese Language?" What you seem to not be understanding is Japanese =/= English, therefore a lot of interpretations are different -- English is much more open-ended where you can interpret things in multiple ways as you're doing here, however 'JP Only' generally means preferring people who can speak Japanese. As with everything there's exceptions, however with the people I run with who says it are referring to speaking it. Also quit with the "Onry" stuff, you honestly don't even see it, you don't even see it in the OP's Image, so if anything you're just furthering a generalization that doesn't exist most of the time, just because of the way the language is, you'll hear it, but rarely will you see it typed out -- Even native Japanese make fun of those who end up writing out certain words with an r.




So you're basically saying it's ok for one but not ok for anything else? You do know people can have preference for anything and everything, right? What if the leader was german and wanted only people who can speak the same language in their party? Would you raise the same stink over it?



Once again "JP Only" generally refers to wanting people who can speak Japanese. It's not stating "Japanese person only". During XI's prime you even had someone interview a lot of Japanese players and the majority were referring to just that, so few were actually saying "no thank (NA/EU) person." The problem is very few people actually take the time to try to communicate in Japanese, they expect everyone to communicate in English -- I wouldn't have even bothered with English if it wasn't required for the international business world.

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Dont you mean very few people take the time to try to communicate in a language other than their main..?

Believe what you want, Jennestia. But I won't expect you to speak English, if you don't expect me to speak Japanese. I have no preference.

When I join, say an SB party like here, I want SB'ed weapons. If you can do that, I don't care if you prefer Esperanto. I'll gladly translate my English into it for you.

JP On(l)y? Haaaaai....

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Originally Posted by Reika

Dont you mean very few people take the time to try to communicate in a language other than their main..?

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No, considering the problem here seems to be with Japanese players, despite popular belief taking the time to actually try and communicate goes a long way. You'll run into very few Japanese people who won't even give a chance if you try communicating, just not google translate communication lol. The AT is still far too limited and terms aren't all the same otherwise more JP would actually use it.

This thread is ridiculous.

I don't know what is worse, the justification that asking for a specific job is the exact same as asking for a certain race of people, or the fact that you honestly think that they are even remotely the same.

You get assholes in every culture, and Japanese people who call for a group and kick for being english/german/french (etc) are assholes.

If you want only Japanese players, then state it. Don't just kick people without a word of justification. Stop defending assholes for being assholes.

Oh and the whole "Europe is basically the same as NA!" had me rolling.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

No, considering the problem here seems to be with Japanese players, despite popular belief taking the time to actually try and communicate goes a long way. You'll run into very few Japanese people who won't even give a chance if you try communicating, just not google translate communication lol. The AT is still far too limited and terms aren't all the same otherwise more JP would actually use it.

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What I am saying is, JP too often dont try to communicate in a language other than their own. We who care to communicate find ourselves using Google or other translation software if we lack better Japanese speaking ability because the majority of Japanese people dont care to communicate wont. It goes in all directions.

And I know it is not all people who are like this. I know of one JP person on my server who only speaks and understands Japanese, but will use google translate along with me.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

Honestly, it's causing quite a lot of problems on my server for the late night EN players. Being declined or kicked from parties, not based on our gear, skill or ability to just play the game, but because some people are too lazy to use the auto translate....http://i46.tinypic.com/25z02lk.png

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@OP: Once you realize that the issue isn't the game and it's actually just dealing with RL people/players, you'll understand the world is like that in general. People either use tools to overcome these obstacles or stick to easier methods of communication.

You'll have to deal with it as you would have to IRL(unless you learn their language), just find a solution or stick to find friendlier players. NOT all players are the same, remove yourself from the online mentality and be more rational. Maturity plays a big part of being in a MMO, player will be people and not NPCs(with is entirely confused some-what).

(if only i can invite npcs to my party, wouldn't that make this mmorpg better?)

The humane approach is understanding how much the world can be self-ish/cruel and much the world can be self-less/ sweet.

Ultimately respect for for other players (especially the pty leader)needs to be given at all times because he/she is thinking of their party and what's best for them. Say "Understood" and move on, who knows.. they'll probably consider you next time in the future!






"This may not be well received by some or understood by many. I was just trying to be poetic in a rookie fashion, though I lack poetic creativity :P"

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Originally Posted by Reika

What I am saying is, JP too often dont try to communicate in a language other than their own. We who care to communicate find ourselves using Google or other translation software if we lack better Japanese speaking ability because the majority of Japanese people dont care to communicate wont. It goes in all directions.

And I know it is not all people who are like this. I know of one JP person on my server who only speaks and understands Japanese, but will use google translate along with me.

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It's mostly a comfort issue since JP > English isn't as easy as other languages, especially in XIV due to it's localization -- The team also is pretty skilled so you know it's not really anyone's fault other than the material they have to work with. Most JP as it was said knows basic English, this is why basic stuff is understandable but having a full on convo isn't likely unless they bothered to take more english classes (or practiced) than needed since realistically, you won't need English living in Japan lol.

Since you're generally playing a Japanese MMO, that's what I was referring to since like I said it just seems like the issue is toward/about JP, rather than a general language barrier issue.

Whoaaa this isn't locked yet :O Haha I am surprised...

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It's not about that. While some JP players limit their party to Japanese speaking people only, they mostly accept any class or job as long as you are good at it. EN parties just go "lol melee dps? who needs that in this encounter? gtfo". It's usually the Japanese who prove over and over again that those encounters can be cleared with any job and having fun doing it instead of the rest just sticking to the "safe" setups.

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Okay..yes I understand completely what you are saying I think. They are similar in the aspect that both single people out, yes? I realize this..but that is why I also said that everyone can level up all their jobs if they choose. It is a bit different to single people out because of a language that folks can't really learn in a couple weeks, vs leveling a job which is much easier to do.

It really is not that hard...heck, even my boyfriend who hates mage jobs with a passion leveled up BLM for speed runs. He does school/work full time also. BUT not everyone has the time to learn every foreign language in the world...so that was my only point....

Leveling up a job in a game is more understanding then having to learn and entire new language because people won't use the auto translate function or attempt to communicate. Personally I do not really care..people can do what they want and the reason they do it means nothing to me also.

Sorry not trying to fight here or anything...

I don't condone "specific language/race only" or "job only" crap, or whatever it is..its all nonsense to me...I will play with anyone, anytime, anywhere..that is why I am playing FFXIV..I love diversity :) Invite me to anything and I'm down.

If it's such a big concern to people, they should just separate English-speaking servers from Japanese. It'll solve all of these problems.

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If it's such a big concern to people, they should just separate English-speaking servers from Japanese. It'll solve all of these problems.

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Then create new ones, like servers being dead at x hour lol.

Its important to realize that not all JP players do this. In fact I was searching for a party for "Wanted: Vengeance" and 5/8 members were Japanese. These people had no problem using auto translate phrases and were very kind and patient.

As stated before its just an easier way for someone to complete content without having to take a few extra steps. Those people are just ignorant/lazy or in a hurry, but you will find that its not just the Japanese that do this. It happens with any language barrier.

Why would it be locked? (Other than some people going off into a godzilla rage for no reason) I see this is as a major problem in a game that tries to promote diversity and SOME PEOPLE just don't want to.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

When you realize that the auto-translate is actually quite bad which is the real reason a lot of Japanese players doesn't use it, the sooner you'll realize it's not laziness.

When the majority of shouts you see, from NA players, consists of <hyur> <fun> <hole> <can I have it?>, do you honestly not wonder why the JP stopped bothering with it beyond localization reasons? It's well known the localization between languages for certain things is why it's not heavily used.

Also, JP only generally deals with "Japanese Language Only", I haven't seen anyone who attempts to communicate with them get kicked, it's the ones who try to join JP shouts and tell them to speak english are the ones who get kicked, btw, NA players are far worse with their "kicking/declining".

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This'll probably be the one and only time I'll get to disagree with you Elexia. With the exception of events which require extensive planning, preparation and thought to execution, there is no good reason why players of any national origin/native language cannot or should not play together.

Let me give you a brief personal experience to illustrate: During my short time on Cerberus in FFXI, I experienced an oppressive amount of JP Only in seacom messages and JP players dropping party the instant they realized I was NA. No amount of courtesy, politeness, setup, camp, or {Veteran} could hold them; And this was to do something as common as an EXP party. On the occasion, I would get one to stay and actually talked them into taking the leader position from me and helped him/her on recruiting the rest.

The point is, I've never turned down a single request from any player of any race to do a run-of-the-mill event such as this based on anything personal to them. I wouldn't because I find it interesting to play with people from other lands. I have a pre-conception, (forgive me here), that German and French players aren't so good, but that has never stopped me from letting one join my group. Ever. Bad players from all corners are out there, and not one race deserves to be wholly segregated from the rest because of this fact. It's irritating and I simply cannot understand it. I play MMO's to experience the game with people all over the world and not to be ostracized/excluded because of where I was born.

I wouldn't do it to you, and I don't expect you to do it to me.

I've been reluctant to post in this thread, but I decided to throw in my two cents real briefly.

It's true that racism exists in Japan, just like anywhere else in the world, but the reason why the majority of people looking for JP only don't want to party with you is simply because they don't speak English, and as such cannot communicate with you. I can see mixing JP and EN players for routine stuff like spirit bond parties or what have you, but for anything that might require the need to communicate forget it. Personally I have no desire to play with JP players either for the obvious reason that I don't speak Japanese, and I'm quite happy with their decision to open regional servers with the release of A Realm Reborn.

In regards to the auto translator, It really doesn't help much. You may be able to get a few points across, but the truth is, Japanese and English are so different that you can hardly even use a real translation app to read it.

This thread has made me lose all faith in humanity.

Both sides are being ridiculous. Yeah, JP ONRY can be annoying, but they certaintly aren't saying it because they're racist. It's a problem of communication. I really hate it when people just throw that word around everywhere. This is a game, people. It's supposed to be entertainment. Stop getting your knickers in a twist and play the game.

Judging a whole group of people on the actions of a few bad apples is a stupid thing to do.

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Originally Posted by Bowen

This thread has made me lose all faith in humanity.

Both sides are being ridiculous. Yeah, JP ONRY can be annoying, but they certaintly aren't saying it because they're racist. It's a problem of communication. I really hate it when people just throw that word around everywhere. This is a game, people. It's supposed to be entertainment. Stop getting your knickers in a twist and play the game.

Judging a whole group of people on the actions of a few bad apples is a stupid thing to do.

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There topic in the JP forums asking for JP Servers and big % of them said no they like playing with people from other part of the world or they don't care. But there a lot that are just racist and just don't want to play with NA there racist everywhere and people need to understand.

It's really a communication issue where JP just don't want to waste time to explain. I know i was in a party with full JP and the leader knew how to type ENG he would explain we going to X,Y and killing A,B,C but sadly not a lot of JP or NA don't want to waste time to explain to someone who does not understand them which i understand.

Just something we have to deal with when 2.0 come out there be dungeon finder so you could just play with other people from other worlds i think that would fix most of the issue we having.

The vocal minority is what gets the attention most of the time anyway. there was a thread where some JP players made some racist remark apparently (didn't read that one myself) and immediately people on an English thread went into "yeah, typical JP behavior" mode.

Now another "jponly" pops up and people show their "typical EN behavior" and start making racist remarks towards the Japanese. Everyone's happy?

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Originally Posted by Bowen

This thread has made me lose all faith in humanity.

Both sides are being ridiculous. Yeah, JP ONRY can be annoying, but they certaintly aren't saying it because they're racist. It's a problem of communication. I really hate it when people just throw that word around everywhere. This is a game, people. It's supposed to be entertainment. Stop getting your knickers in a twist and play the game.

Judging a whole group of people on the actions of a few bad apples is a stupid thing to do.

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That's the thing. I usually end up playing during JP hours. With "JP only" parties going around, it's impossible for me to play the game. I can craft, I can gather and I can solo level. If I wanted to solo, I wouldn't play a MMO.

For the record, I have never made a "EN only" party and if I did, a few JP friends of mine might burn me alive.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

For the record, I have never made a "EN only" party and if I did, a few JP friends of mine might burn me alive.

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Yeah funny how that works. =/ I hope you can at least google trans your way into a few pts.

i support JP onry, they should be exiled.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

There topic in the JP forums asking for JP Servers and big % of them said no they like playing with people from other part of the world or they don't care. But there a lot that are just racist and just don't want to play with NA there racist everywhere and people need to understand.

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Has there been a similar thread on the EN forums asking for language-specific servers? I bet a lot of us would choose all-inclusive servers, especially because they're bringing some to NA. I'm sure there are going to be prejudiced players from all regions. There's simply no getting around that short of forcing parties not to deny invites, but that would completely wreck the game and probably make the problem worse.

I think my biggest concern now is that I've been hearing about the localized servers in each region. People will flock to their nearest server and it will lead to de facto segregation. I'm sure there will be more than a few NA that end up on a mostly-JP server and have trouble getting anything done because of it. I can speak a little Japanese, but not enough to be able to read their kanji-filled shouts. Normally I can make out the katakana for Hamlet or Aurum Vale, but it's hard to know which classes they're looking for. If I got stuck on a server that was 75% JP, I don't know that I'd be able to get nearly as much done as I do (which already isn't much) simply because I'm too lazy/non-fluent/self-conscious to try and communicate.

If I'm wrong on this localized server thing, then cool. I like the JP, but I have my limits.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

If you want only Japanese players, then state it.

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Well... they do... by saying it's "JP only". Except it's backfiring every time. I guess some people just don't realize it, or don't learn.

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Stop defending assholes for being assholes.

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I'm not. What I'm defending are my Japanese friends who have absolutely no problems with communicating with non-Japanese people that get labeled with the same "xenophobic JP"-tag by some people.

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

Whoaaa this isn't locked yet :O Haha I am surprised...

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It's still Sunday in the US :P

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Okay..yes I understand completely what you are saying I think. They are similar in the aspect that both single people out, yes? I realize this..but that is why I also said that everyone can level up all their jobs if they choose. It is a bit different to single people out because of a language that folks can't really learn in a couple weeks, vs leveling a job which is much easier to do.

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Yes, learning a language is harder than getting lvl50 on all jobs.

This is going to be long-ish, so i'll put the rest into spoiler tags

What you have to consider is the reasons why learning a language is so hard. Just like Japanese appears hard to you, so does English appear hard to many Japanese. Not only do they use a different alphabet, they are also very different phonetically. That's one of the reasons why for example an American trying to speak Japanese for the first time will mess up completely, same for Japanese speaking English.

Now comes the cultural difference: while in most Western countries it's believed to better be able to somehow do something even if it's bad, the Eastern culture seems to have a mindset of "doing it correctly, or do not bother entirely". Which leads to people who have a gift for learning a language learning English, while the rest just knows a few words.

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not everyone has the time to learn every foreign language in the world...so that was my only point....

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That's right.. and no one expects you to. They merely tell you they want people who can speak Japanese only... if you don't, don't join, why get up in flames over it?

For some reason people interpret that as a personal insult of some sort. It just happened that English has become a de facto "world language", but that doesn't mean you can expect everyone to speak it... just like you can't expect everyone to speak any language.

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Sorry not trying to fight here or anything...

I don't condone "specific language/race only" or "job only" crap, or whatever it is..its all nonsense to me...I will play with anyone, anytime, anywhere..that is why I am playing FFXIV..I love diversity Invite me to anything and I'm down.

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You don't have to be so defensive about it, though I can't blame you for reacting this way seeing the general mood of this thread.

I'm not claiming whatever I wrote to be the absolute truth, it's merely my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Signing up for an Endgame Shell: "You MUST have all classes to 50 even DoH/DoL."
Signing up for an Endgame Shell: "You MUST use Teamspeak/Vent/Mumble."
Shouting for Primals: "<Primal> <Do you need it?> 1/8, BLM, BRD, WHM and Tank Please."
Shouting for CC SB: "BLMs and BRDs only please."
Shouting for Regular SB parties: "BLMs, BRD, WHM and WARs please."
Shouting for Dungeons: "BLMs, BRDs, WHM and Tank (WAR) please."

So what's the difference with Japanese players shouting for others who can speak Japanese and what pretty much everyone else does? Showing a preference? It's about communication even in regular parties, so those who say "You don't need to talk in x" just because you choose to be anti-social doesn't mean everyone else view that belief.

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There is no difference. I don't know why people are crying about this. Especially anyone who's been playing since FFXI.

when english players call for <veteran trade> you realize all those late night jp players have NO idea what your talking about either :)

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Amen. Sort of sicking to see people with a "Japanese can't do no wrong" mentality.

Everyone's human. There are various factors to weigh in why people with language barriers don't want to play together or want to but otherwise have difficulty playing coordinated content.

I don't even bother with Japanese shouts on Ragnarok since the majority that I see are in Japanese. I totally understand that. Take for instance Nael Darnus fight. No one has the time to try to try to fiddle around with the auto-translator to get someone to move up the stairs or down them, huddle up together, etc.

I've no issue with players that don't speak English; I enjoy playing with them, however I would rather play with someone who can speak my language and understand specific instructions when given during true group content such as speed runs, primal, etc, without an archaic translation tool(or god forbid Google translate :P)

The new localization of the servers will split German, French, English and Japanese speaking people (or at least it sounds like it will) which is a shame since I like the diversity we had since FFXI times, back then I had a 3rd party tool that allowed me to type in Japanese inside FFXI and was able to communicate with them, I'm Mexican myself and I like Japanese people ( ^^)v and that being said makes me feel bad each time I get rejected for not being Japanese, it didn't happen that often in FFXI because of the language tool but in XIV I haven't found any tool or setting like that ( T.T)

as if only JP do that, at least they are honest in the recruitment process

ex: joins party with 7 english speakers and 1 spanish (non-english)-speaking guy. Do you think people in the group would bother use auto-translate constantly so he can understand? No, they blame him for not speaking english.

But then Japanese people should welcome you and talk in your language just so you can join them and do some cool stuff. I see why they won't bother, much easier speaking in their language. and I know people assume that because English is the "de facto" world language, everybody should speak it but in practice you won't find much great english-speaking gamers there (know this from fact)

I'm kinda confused over OP. He wants this to change...but how? We're dealing with human nature here - SE can't do anything about the language barrier except for more auto-translate, and as people have said, there's only so much you can do with it before it doesn't help.

Personally, my experience with JPs have been very nice. I HAVE been in a few Japanese parties where I was not wanted, but they did in a process which was not at all mean. It normally consisted of:

Leader: (Japanese)?
Me: (No.) (English) (I don't speak any Japanese.)
Leader: (That's too bad.) (I don't speak any English.) (I'm sorry.) (Party) (Exit) ?
Me: (Thank you.) (Let's play together again sometime!)
Leader: (Thank you.) (I'm sorry.) (/bow)

...with a few other variants, including emotes and more auto-translate. Of course, that's not to say I was never in any Japanese run parties, and when I was, I made an effort to use Google Translate to communicate, with the understanding that I was using a third-party program to do so. Those parties were typically fine with it, and I've done DH, Moogles, Ifrit and some other content with them. We all have a good laugh when we mess up, and they never blame me for anything, usually discussing how to overcome the problem. In fact, during my nights (I have similar prime time with JPs), I get /tells from them asking me to join a party for some content.

It doesn't hurt to be helpful as well. I vividly remember Castrum Novum - a Japanese party was having trouble past the second gate, and I helped them cure and raise and buff the party. When we got to a safe zone, they asked me if I needed the fight (in Japanese). I responded with google-translate that I was just there to help them, and that I couldn't speak any Japanese, but I would do my best to aid them. They were very happy, /grovelling and saying (Thank you.)!!! a lot. They were also totally cool with me using google translate. In the end, they let me join their party for the instanced fight because a person left after a wipe [I raised them], and even let me explain how the fight worked. I used a mix of Auto-translate and google-translate, but they understood, and we won. I thought they would all return, but they asked me if I wanted to fight the mechs for the drops - they invited me to join them. Needless to say, we lost (some of them returned, and we didn't have a full party) but we all enjoyed it, and by the end, they were trying to use English to speak to me, haha. I still see the LS every once in awhile, and when I wave, they wave back and give a little dance as well, more often then not asking if I needed any help.

I do respect the wishes of parties that want to run with Japanese-speaking people only, which is in a way not unexpected. The search function has an option for JP people - I don't see why a party cannot request for JP in their shouts. But overall, my experience with Japanese parties have been very positive. It's a matter of give and take, in my opinion; you be honest with them, help them out when they need it, and typically they'll do the same to you.

The 22 people that liked the OPs post were incapable of thinking straight...

You cant expect people to go through shit to explain you their strat in a language they don't know..
They cant explain it to ya in JP right?

I can't be laying down my strat to a person that has no idea what im talking about..
dunno how u people do it anyways.
I sometimes explain it in english to english speaking people and they still can't follow/understand instructions lol..

Don't join JP parties OP.

I, personally, do not fault JP players who don't want to play with people who do not speak Japanese. If they don't want to play with me, that is ok. I will play with someone else.

I'm not interested in forcing them to play with me, nor am I interested in playing with people who do not wish to play with me, no matter what the reason.

I would hope if it's a JP party and I'm the only english speaking person, that I would be in a party where I know what to do. Like Ifrit, they shouldn't have to tell me what to do. I know where to stand and when to move.

Now a dungeon, yeah that I wouldn't be surprised if I was booted for that.

I don't get bothered by it, unless I see all that Japanese text, and see my name among it then ww at the end of it. Then I feel like a joke was amade at my expense.

Just type　おはよ　when you join.