NA relic weapon

bu...but the lag.

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Originally Posted by Crimzon

Blizzard LS on Gungnir just defeatd Ifrit (Extreme) a few hours ago. (7 NA 1 EU) We completed 8 relics (2 PLD, 2 WHM, BLM, DRG, WAR, BRD). Also have 4 more people on that stage (2 DRG, WHM, WAR) that we are rotating in now.

The fight is about knowing what & when Ifrit is going to do. Latency does not prevent you from winning this fight. If you are A) in the right position before he does a WS and B) do not get caught in animation lock when he does do that WS, then any reasonably skilled group should be able to avoid everything.

From that point it is taking down his horns ASAP or else get caught by some less avoidable WS's and having the DPS to burn through the nail phases. Practice makes perfect.

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Lies, you must be NAs that are stationed in japan.. Neri is definitely a japs!!!

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Originally Posted by Crimzon

Blizzard LS on Gungnir just defeatd Ifrit (Extreme) a few hours ago. (7 NA 1 EU) We completed 8 relics (2 PLD, 2 WHM, BLM, DRG, WAR, BRD). Also have 4 more people on that stage (2 DRG, WHM, WAR) that we are rotating in now.

The fight is about knowing what & when Ifrit is going to do. Latency does not prevent you from winning this fight. If you are A) in the right position before he does a WS and B) do not get caught in animation lock when he does do that WS, then any reasonably skilled group should be able to avoid everything.

From that point it is taking down his horns ASAP or else get caught by some less avoidable WS's and having the DPS to burn through the nail phases. Practice makes perfect.

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NO !!! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. NOBODY can dodge that silly lag. LAG!!!!! FTW EXCUSE

actully some ppl in masamune NA are getting into JP groups just to get first na

But Meatdawg Vit blames latency. How did you guys ever win?

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Originally Posted by Crimzon

The fight is about knowing what & when Ifrit is going to do. Latency does not prevent you from winning this fight. If you are A) in the right position before he does a WS and B) do not get caught in animation lock when he does do that WS, then any reasonably skilled group should be able to avoid everything.

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The problem with latency was never that it makes it impossible, the problem was always that we have to foresee the events while others can react to it, just living in JP does not mean you have best latency, also in NA we have many different connections to the servers. Be realistic, latency is in fact an issue but to say content becomes impossible is not true, same as to say content is not influenced by latency!

Videos by the way are no source of facts, why do you think exists test labs if you simply can explain everything with a single random video? :rolleyes:
There are so many factors, it is impossible to say why on videos some JP players seems to have lag, latency or animation lock. We only can guess but thats no prove, so be cautious with your judgement.

Great Success! Love my LS!

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

The problem with latency was never that it makes it impossible, the problem was always that we have to foresee the events while others can react to it, just living in JP does not mean you have best latency, also in NA we have many different connections to the servers. Be realistic, latency is in fact an issue but to say content becomes impossible is not true, same as to say content is not influenced by latency!

Videos by the way are no source of facts, why do you think exists test labs if you simply can explain everything with a single random video? :rolleyes:
There are so many factors, it is impossible to say why on videos some JP players seems to have lag, latency or animation lock. We only can guess but thats no prove, so be cautious with your judgement.

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Just say it you cant dodge with latency while others can, we all happy.

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Originally Posted by Crimzon

Blizzard LS on Gungnir just defeatd Ifrit (Extreme) a few hours ago. (7 NA 1 EU) We completed 8 relics (2 PLD, 2 WHM, BLM, DRG, WAR, BRD).

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Congratulations! :)

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Oh come on if you couldn't dodge gaze attacks in XI there is something wrong on your end. My situation in Canada may not be as bad as EU but it was childsplay to avoid unless you were caught in animation lock.

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I could avoid them if they weren't cockatrice petrify gazes. Those were impossible. And yes, those extra 100 ms lag that I might be having could very well be the reason.

Huge congrats to blizzard LS its a major accomplishment, I'm glad this took so much effort to finish I know my ls was at the 16 nail phase last night and probably will have it by weekend. Glad to see others taking it down.

Instead of blaming lag can we just say.....
NA/EU is 0.3 sec > JP?

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Originally Posted by Eliseus

But Meatdawg Vit blames latency. How did you guys ever win?

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Was probably just luck

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Originally Posted by Meatdawg

Was probably just luck

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Well gratz anyways

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Originally Posted by Eliseus

Well gratz anyways

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I can feel the love Gungnir.

Congrats Blizzard LS! Way to go.

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Originally Posted by Crimzon

Blizzard LS on Gungnir just defeatd Ifrit (Extreme) a few hours ago. (7 NA 1 EU) We completed 8 relics (2 PLD, 2 WHM, BLM, DRG, WAR, BRD). Also have 4 more people on that stage (2 DRG, WHM, WAR) that we are rotating in now.

The fight is about knowing what & when Ifrit is going to do. Latency does not prevent you from winning this fight. If you are A) in the right position before he does a WS and B) do not get caught in animation lock when he does do that WS, then any reasonably skilled group should be able to avoid everything.

From that point it is taking down his horns ASAP or else get caught by some less avoidable WS's and having the DPS to burn through the nail phases. Practice makes perfect.

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Grats you guys!

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Originally Posted by Leo_Hart

Just say it you cant dodge with latency while others can, we all happy.

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Please get over your elitist "I'm a better player than you LOLZ" attitude and realise that Yukiko never once stated that latency prevents her from dodging. She was simply stating (like many people have said over and over again in this thread) that the battle IS made slightly more difficult than it is for those living closer to the server due to latency issues. Get your head out of the sand.

LATENCY ISSUES:
Do they exist? Yes, they do.
Do they make the battle harder? Slightly, of course.
Does it prevent anyone with enough skill from winning the battle? Absolutely not.

Then stop bringing it up as if its render ifrit impossible, everyone knows there is latency, stop beating around the dead horse. Not pointing exactly at you btw, just in general for ppl that keeps bringing the issue up.

tested jump (unbuffed) on lv50 Drubbers. limited sample size and can't be arsed to do more, but...

33 jumps with garuda's beak: 30 normal for ~400-450 damage, 3 crits for 560-600
33 jumps with gae bolg: 30 normal for ~600-650 damage, 3 crits for 1040-1100

not bad. difficult to really tell how much of that is from the 'enhanced jump', though, considering the much higher base damage of gae bolg- as i'm pretty sure base damage has always been better for jump than actual dps.

maybe eventually i can find time to do better, more detailed tests.

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Originally Posted by fusional

tested jump (unbuffed) on lv50 Drubbers. limited sample size and can't be arsed to do more, but...

33 jumps with garuda's beak: 30 normal for ~400-450 damage, 3 crits for 560-600
33 jumps with gae bolg: 30 normal for ~600-650 damage, 3 crits for 1040-1100

not bad.

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Fixed that for you

are we being catty for some reason? so sorry, i made a typo.

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Originally Posted by fusional

tested jump (unbuffed) on lv50 Drubbers. limited sample size and can't be arsed to do more, but...

33 jumps with garuda's spine: 30 normal for ~400-450 damage, 3 crits for 560-600
33 jumps with gae bolg: 30 normal for ~600-650 damage, 3 crits for 1040-1100

not bad. difficult to really tell how much of that is from the 'enhanced jump', though, considering the much higher base damage of gae bolg- as i'm pretty sure base damage has always been better for jump than actual dps.

maybe eventually i can find time to do better, more detailed tests.

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Having a Gae Old Time? >_>

Seriously, Conga-rat-ulations on relic ^^

BG got theirs today.

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Originally Posted by fusional

tested jump (unbuffed) on lv50 Drubbers. limited sample size and can't be arsed to do more, but...

33 jumps with garuda's beak: 30 normal for ~400-450 damage, 3 crits for 560-600
33 jumps with gae bolg: 30 normal for ~600-650 damage, 3 crits for 1040-1100

not bad. difficult to really tell how much of that is from the 'enhanced jump', though, considering the much higher base damage of gae bolg- as i'm pretty sure base damage has always been better for jump than actual dps.

maybe eventually i can find time to do better, more detailed tests.

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That is some good info, thank you for this and gratz on relic

Some people from Blue Gartr on Durandal have it, and apparently there's a few dudes on another server that have them too.

Sig pic from a few nights ago (but after Blizzard LS):

Legacy of Aegis.

Fight puts a serious emphasis on team play and team awareness. Lazy positioning can be a killer and the wrong deaths or the untimely deaths can really set off a domino effect. Really better to not die in this instance. 13 nails wasn't as intimidating as I initially thought it would be. Like all other fights, it's all about learning the little things.

Review of fight: Wouldn't want to do it with a PUG.

Used 1 WHM, 2 WARs, 3 MNKs, 1 BRD, 1 PLD.
Received 1 BLM relic, 2 WHM relics, 1 WAR relic, 1 PLD relic, 1 BRD relic, and 1 DRG relic.

You have unhealthy amount of lalafells in your LS.

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic13371337

id be shocked if any NA could get past all of those cracks/nails.

what with the server lag and all :l

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Yeah it's pretty terribad. "Hey I ran out of that eruption/plume 8 seconds ago, but I still took damage from it."
Though, BG (NA linkshell for those unaware) got some on Durandal. Saw a dude with Curtana yesterday

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

You have unhealthy amount of lalafells in your LS.

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And by that you mean two too few in that party (*'-')b

Grats to you guys, BG and Dynasty ^^

Any records of other NA Linkshells beating it at all tho?

thanks, guys :) and grats all around to the LSs with relic so far.

for the record, yes- the best part of drg relic is the "having a gae old time" achievement ;)

Congrats to both Legacy & BG on relics.

I see Legacy's setup on kill with MNKx3, BRD, WARx2, PLD, WHM.
Our setup was DRGx2, WARx3, WHMx2, PLD and I think the 2nd kill was a 3rd DRG and 1 less WAR.

Curious about BG's setup. Glad to see a fight where community using a variety of setups to win.

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Originally Posted by Crimzon

Congrats to both Legacy & BG on relics.

I see Legacy's setup on kill with MNKx3, BRD, WARx2, PLD, WHM.
Our setup was DRGx2, WARx3, WHMx2, PLD and I think the 2nd kill was a 3rd DRG and 1 less WAR.

Curious about BG's setup. Glad to see a fight where community using a variety of setups to win.

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WHM x2, PLD, WAR, DRG x4

But that feels like a safe setup for us, I think a better setup would be WAR, PLD, WHM, BRD, DRG x4; or no BRD and 5 DRGs.

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

WHM x2, PLD, WAR, DRG x4

But that feels like a safe setup for us, I think a better setup would be WAR, PLD, WHM, BRD, DRG x4; or no BRD and 5 DRGs.

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You put a lot of pressure on that lone WAR :) I know the pally can help a bit but if you can swing 1 WAR you can really improve your DPS.

Myself and 2 other NA members got our relics this morning.

PT Comp: 1st kill
1PLD
2DRG
1MNK
1BRD
1WHM
2WAR

PT Comp: 2nd kill
1PLD
1DRG
2MNK
1BRD
1WHM
2WAR

WELLCONGRATSTOMETHEN:mad:

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Originally Posted by Meatdawg

You put a lot of pressure on that lone WAR :) I know the pally can help a bit but if you can swing 1 WAR you can really improve your DPS.

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1 WAR can easily bring down their horn every time, so if we have a good one then they should be fine. I would really like to try even having 1 BLM and 4 DRGs, since obviously BLMs rape Ifrit X.

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Originally Posted by SniperRifle

Myself and 2 other NA members got our relics this morning.

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Congrats Snipy-Lala. ^_^/ Now post nice pictures so we can see. >:3

I'm seeing PLD as a regular thing for these. That makes me happy. :D