SQ Ruined Christmas!

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Someone doesn't get what the issue was



The irony. Yes SE put this practice in place to spite people, you figured it out. Congrats

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Yep. Next up, they'll be shutting down service for the whole month of December. Merry Christmas all. :p
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I don't really care only costs SE money they could have made. Gives me an excuse not to buying anything from them on the Mogstation. How the economy is they want to make as much money as they can. Guess it's there loss.

They should have Gift Cards for specific amounts as an option on the cash shop and let u gift those to people.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

Yep. Next up, they'll be shutting down service for the whole month of December. Merry Christmas all. :p
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if there will be any shutting down for a month, it'll obviously during fasting month

No one says you can't do a secret santa. It just means you can't gift things from the mog station directly. Buy a 10M+ gil mount and mail it. Problem solved.

all the money they made from mogstation alone they could give us all a Christmas gift of 1k more wards for housing XD

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

News report: Forum confirmed Square Enix is apparently the grinch.

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Speaking of that can't wait to see that dark version of Grinch that's coming out soon.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Someone doesn't get what the issue was



The irony. Yes SE put this practice in place to spite people, you figured it out. Congrats

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I just knew my tinfoil hat was right. Next they are going after healers and removing their one DPS button.
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it's kinda sad to see the level of some have gotten used to.., to the point that this one change up ends their whole end of year plans that is still more than a month away.

Just cause MMOs have always had Snakes and roaches doing illicit activities at others loss, (and players who should have their accounts deleted for buying from them) doesn't mean it'll always be that way, and stay that way.

They wouldn't be doing these changes if it didn't benefit them, and the game, or the player base in the long run.<and tbh with the threads this past month and about the frequent Bots/potential RMT antics going around.>
It isn't so surprising, that sometime after EW launch that they are finally able to Expand their "Teams" as they stated in the update to the store.
[SE feels the loss of sales more than these individuals who are left out of ideas for Xmas gifts.]
If anything, those who got left without their easy low effort gift giving should be making threads asking SE for a better shop after the period of Locked Gifting is over.
<Since making any more threads about the topic won't make them turn back. Specially since it won't end their goals quicker, and show a lack of direction on their part/following a plan to the letter.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

Daybreak (formerly SOE) has alt currency and they have worse restrictions (You can't send anything at all), so it's actually reasonable to speculate this is how things will be. Sometimes, in order to look out for the customer, some things have to be taken away because too many can't take the time to think "is this smart, safe or wise to do?"

I have friend that insists on handing out gifts and it didn't take her very long to figure out an alternative. Other folks can do the same.

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EverQuest 2 is great in some ways (housing) and trash in others(their marketplace). And I managed to get them to completely change a policy they had on transfers so community complaints do sometimes change things.

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Originally Posted by keichirou

geeez...might wanna run a colonoscopy while you're down there

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;););););)
agreed!

Not paying attention , are we?.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Not paying attention , are we?.

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I think it's more fun if we all blindfold ourselves and just start swinging wildly. It can be a fun game!

I think Lalafells have a natural advantage though...so...no Oddjob.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I think it's more fun if we all blindfold ourselves and just start swinging wildly. It can be a fun game!

I think Lalafells have a natural advantage though...so...no Oddjob.

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have some spears bladed from the tip to almost at the handle.., and have people next to each other spin in the same or opposite directions at different heights..,

Then Collect what is left, and either rebuild an undead army, or plant.

Is the revolution finally happening?

You've done it for last 2 years. What about all the Christmas before then? Who ruined those for you?

The change is a disaster however workarounds are still possible. I mean, you can for example still use steam gifts cards, google gift cards. Just work with what you can.

Starting to feel like some "SE defense" posts are supposed to be parodies.

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Originally Posted by Nafreyu

You've done it for last 2 years. What about all the Christmas before then? Who ruined those for you?

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A really quick search would tell you that the FC they're in is just a little over 2 years old.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

A really quick search would tell you that the FC they're in is just a little over 2 years old.

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The point is we've all had Christmases without being able to gift items from the XIV shop. :p

I'm pretty sure a friend that's hard-pressed to spend $30 on a mount would appreciate a $30 game time code.

Or just throw the entire holiday in the trash. Christmas won't happen this year, little Timmy, because Christmas was canceled.

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Originally Posted by vanaii

I'm pretty sure a friend that's hard-pressed to spend $30 on a mount would appreciate a $30 game time code.

Or just throw the entire holiday in the trash. Christmas won't happen this year, little Timmy, because Christmas was canceled.

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People would be fine with it if it actually did anything to fight RMT, but it really isnt doing anything.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

People would be fine with it if it actually did anything to fight RMT, but it really isnt doing anything.

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how do you know it didn't? Resulted impact, no matter how small, should count because that's the definition of ANY.

Or are you currently doing some shady transactions right now and thus unhindered by their new policies?

You know why this happened? Because people bought codes with stolen or otherwise compromised credit cards, listed those codes for resale from legitimate purchasers looking for a deal, and then eventually the original purchase was noticed by the stolen/compromised cardholder and the charge reversed.

Payment processors do not like this. If you make your payment processor angry with you, they drop you. I imagine SE uses a first tier processor, and if you get dropped by one of them none of the others will take you. Chargebacks happened, processors told SE to <do this thing now>, SE complied.

Square Enix didn't ruin Christmas, people stealing things ruined your give away and I really suspect Square Enix didn't have much of a choice but to comply with a request from a big payment processor.

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Originally Posted by Xaphire

You know why this happened? Because people bought codes with stolen or otherwise compromised credit cards, listed those codes for resale from legitimate purchasers looking for a deal, and then eventually the original purchase was noticed by the stolen/compromised cardholder and the charge reversed.

Payment processors do not like this. If you make your payment processor angry with you, they drop you. I imagine SE uses a first tier processor, and if you get dropped by one of them none of the others will take you. Chargebacks happened, processors told SE to <do this thing now>, SE complied.

Square Enix didn't ruin Christmas, people stealing things ruined your give away and I really suspect Square Enix didn't have much of a choice but to comply with a request from a big payment processor.

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I'd tend to agree and would suggest it's the people stealing things who require a visit from three ghosts to teach them the true meaning of Christmas rather than SE.
https://i.redd.it/bmaio0wqli661.jpg

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

how do you know it didn't? Resulted impact, no matter how small, should count because that's the definition of ANY.

Or are you currently doing some shady transactions right now and thus unhindered by their new policies?

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The hell kind of accusations is this lmao, also I would advice you to check under Limsa on Phantom, and please report back to me and tell me anything has changed.

There's about 40 lalas under the ground sitting there teleporting all over the place, which is the same if not more than it was before this "fix", I wouldnt call that any better.

Glitch your camera a little and you will see what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The hell kind of accusations is this lmao, also I would advice you to check under Limsa on Phantom, and please report back to me and tell me anything has changed.

There's about 40 lalas under the ground sitting there teleporting all over the place, which is the same if not more than it was before this "fix", I wouldnt call that any better.

Glitch your camera a little and you will see what I'm talking about.

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I believe RMT is more likely to be involved in activities outside the game, like Mogstations. The purported lala you described is more likey to be botting, cheating, and gil farming, which has very little to do with this topic

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Originally Posted by Xaphire

You know why this happened? Because people bought codes with stolen or otherwise compromised credit cards, listed those codes for resale from legitimate purchasers looking for a deal, and then eventually the original purchase was noticed by the stolen/compromised cardholder and the charge reversed.

Payment processors do not like this. If you make your payment processor angry with you, they drop you. I imagine SE uses a first tier processor, and if you get dropped by one of them none of the others will take you. Chargebacks happened, processors told SE to <do this thing now>, SE complied.

Square Enix didn't ruin Christmas, people stealing things ruined your give away and I really suspect Square Enix didn't have much of a choice but to comply with a request from a big payment processor.

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It's funny how suspicion is directed at the wrong people, especially here. SE is supposedly an evil corporation looking to steal your money and do other horrible things. Meanwhile, some kind soul is offering a discount on their wares. :rolleyes:

Not that I use the cash shop often or give out codes often, but can SE not make some type of currency card via physical retail stores where they do not have to deal with scammers directly. I figured that would be a decent solution unless it's just too much money to produce or that those physical cards are also easily vulnerable to scams.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The hell kind of accusations is this lmao

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I'm not trying to accuse you of anything. If you felt that way, I apologize

It's just your statement "it if it actually did anything to fight RMT, but it really isnt doing anything." is such a strong claim. I assume you know some inner working of RMT.

Also if you ever bothered to read those official announcement on Lodestone, SE has been warning us about the growth of account hijacking for months.

Players didn't care, and changes to Mogstation happened.


double post because my internet died. can't edit with cellphone

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Originally Posted by Ashiee

Not that I use the cash shop often or give out codes often, but can SE not make some type of currency card via physical retail stores where they do not have to deal with scammers directly. I figured that would be a decent solution unless it's just too much money to produce or that those physical cards are also easily vulnerable to scams.

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That would still have problems and likely still cost money to implement. They could implement an alternate currency like Daybreak's cash and it would still be subject to restrictions where you wouldn't be able to gift.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

For now, Shibi. This is temporary until they can get a handle on the matter. I dont doubt for a moment they want that system back up and running ASAP.

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Doesn't feel temporary to me... Holiday season is over already. Did you mean next year? Or the one after that?...

Ah no this is back?!