Island Sanctuary

So.... SE has been struggling for years with housing but they can give everyone an island...? OK...

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

So.... SE has been struggling for years with housing but they can give everyone an island...? OK...

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It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World :rolleyes:

Only SE knows, why they didn't implement instanced private housing for all, in order to solve the housing problem :confused:

But yes, if an instanced big Island for everyone is possible, a house with garden should be possible too ;)

Noob! They announced timers! I've done my island to timers then done the others!

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Originally Posted by Mihari

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World :rolleyes:

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The World is Mad. While Island Sanctuary may seem large to players, in reality it's gonna be much smaller in tems of data compared to housing. Just few 1/0 choices to customize which allows every player to get their island home.

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Originally Posted by sagacious

every building can be moved after it's built.

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Really?! Completely missed any mention of that!

I kinda neutral in this. It’s a very good way to kill time and relax from combats.
But I also understand why some people don’t like this kind of stuffs and still need to do this content if they need glams, mounts and hairstyles.
The content has so much potentials, that’s for sure.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Well I'm trying to, but whatever I'm doing must be incorrect, because when I click on the seeds nothing seems to happen. I assumed it's the pumpkin seeds, since they're the only ones I've found and the NPC gave me 5 more when I got to this step.

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Not sure if I missed someone replying to this - but this caught me out too.

You don't click on the seeds themselves, you click on the empty box where the seeds need to be moved to. This will then give you a little pop up panel with items you can place in the box under your mouse (bit like when you have to turn in a quest item).

Anybody else thinks the progression is kind of fast for this kind of content? It hasn't been even 24h and already so many buildings and upgrades. At this rate there will be nothing to develop in a week or so.

It kills me how people are wanting everything Island Sanctuary has to offer on Day 1 of patch day. Then your right back in the forums complaining there is no content. Just doesn't make sense.

I don't think Square meant for it to be a grind, why they used the word "relaxing' when describing it. Construction takes time, the more complex the more time it will take to build and that means too, you have to wait on currency in higher amounts to drop from your progression on the island and from your visions. It's not going to be very profitable just gathering yourself what little nodes are out there now, with only 10 exp points each node. Now if we can eventually send the mammets out to gather, that will be great. So have some patience, those things will come in due course. I can't wait to see my friends island.

Oh..and I do wish when playing the orchestrion player that if you leave your island the music doesn't reset to the default once you come back.

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

It kills me how people are wanting everything Island Sanctuary has to offer on Day 1 of patch day. Then your right back in the forums complaining there is no content. Just doesn't make sense.

I don't think Square meant for it to be a grind, why they used the word "relaxing' when describing it. Construction takes time, the more complex the more time it will take to build and that means too, you have to wait on currency in higher amounts to drop from your progression on the island and from your visions. It's not going to be very profitable just gathering yourself what little nodes are out there now, with only 10 exp points each node. Now if we can eventually send the mammets out to gather, that will be great. So have some patience, those things will come in due course. I can't wait to see my friends island.

Oh..and I do wish when playing the orchestrion player that if you leave your island the music doesn't reset to the default once you come back.

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Indeed

Its a case of " i love this im enjoying the hell out of it " > hours later> oh no i didn't take a break now im bored > log onto forums> complain.exe

Enjoyable so far. Still think it'd be nice if you could turn one of the building plots into a normal cottage though.

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Originally Posted by Archaell

Anybody else thinks the progression is kind of fast for this kind of content? It hasn't been even 24h and already so many buildings and upgrades. At this rate there will be nothing to develop in a week or so.

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It's not really too fast, you can progress through the island pretty quickly in terms of rank, but having everything unlocked and fully upgraded is still quite an endeavour in itself, and then on top of that you have the rewards, and given they intend to expand on it in future... In all likelihood, it is something you and many players will be doing weeks, and weeks after fully upgrading.

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

So.... SE has been struggling for years with housing but they can give everyone an island...? OK...

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You can't lose your Island.
You don't have to stay subbed for the Island.....
There you have it.

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Originally Posted by Glenfiddich

You can't lose your Island.
You don't have to stay subbed for the Island.....
There you have it.

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The island actually functions a lot more similarly to something like the Doman restoration. It's an entirely different system and nothing like housing in It's complexity.

I’m really enjoying it. I stayed up way too late last night just gathering stuff and pushing towards Rank 5. I can’t wait until I get off work and can do more on it. Gonna work towards Rank 6 today.

Also can’t wait to mess around on my alts and their islands.

Already at rank 6 and I see a problem. Mammets ventures cost seafare tokens. Seafare tokens are slowly gained by set timers. Island tokens are next to useless, make the grainery take island tokens instead of seafare tokens.

Im still on rank 4 but i never spent so much of my time on my island xD exploring and going weeeee all the time lmao so yes, thank you Yoshi and the dev team for this! :)

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Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen

Indeed

Its a case of " i love this im enjoying the hell out of it " > hours later> oh no i didn't take a break now im bored > log onto forums> complain.exe

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Well the thing is one giant time gate so it would be pretty bad if this game only had IS going for it. The way I see it, the carnival just opened up the island wing for the ones who paid for the ticket to enter. It is pretty cozy but if all you are banking on is spending hours on the island exclusively for 6.2 onwards then of course you will run out of things to do. That's the MO for facebook games. Personally, i'm holding my breath to see if SE can keep it in their pants and keep the inventible "skip the timer" consumable for the island OFF of the mogshop. I would be okay if it was some super crazy rare item (I loved the Rose of Renewal system in everquest!) but if they will introduce it then the realistic side of my mind just keeps repeating "it's going to be 5-10 freedom bux, it's it? :^)". lol

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

Already at rank 6 and I see a problem. Mammets ventures cost seafare tokens. Seafare tokens are slowly gained by set timers. Island tokens are next to useless, make the grainery take island tokens instead of seafare tokens.

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Even if they raised the cost of the items, definitely. This is going to end up being a slog that people will forget about quickly once the excitement wears off and they realize it's gonna take weeks or months to even get a single hair style.

I also dont understand why we have to upgrade via seafarer tokens. So far, it's not very common to gain them? and all good rewards are tied to them.

Meanwhile Islander rewards seem kinda lackluster? Would of been a better reason to gather materials > sell them for Islander Cowrie > build/upgrade facilities + use them for ventures.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

Already at rank 6 and I see a problem. Mammets ventures cost seafare tokens. Seafare tokens are slowly gained by set timers. Island tokens are next to useless, make the grainery take island tokens instead of seafare tokens.

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The problem is you went too fast. The tagline on this is "living the slow life" and you couldn't help but grind it out. It was designed like those other idle mobile games that have timed tasks going for hours and days at a time. Going too fast is going to leave you short on currency and materials.

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Originally Posted by sorawild34

Devs themselves have directly stated they DO NOT want Islands to be a replacement for housing.

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They did? Where? The only statement I've read was that it IS NOT a replacement. Or more specifically to curb our expectations.

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Originally Posted by GeminiReed

They did? Where? The only statement I've read was that it IS NOT a replacement. Or more specifically to curb our expectations.

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On at least one live letter, Yoshida said it's not a replacement for housing and to temper expectations for it.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

The problem is you went too fast. The tagline on this is "living the slow life" and you couldn't help but grind it out. It was designed like those other idle mobile games that have timed tasks going for hours and days at a time. Going too fast is going to leave you short on currency and materials.

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Uh, no. The problem is spending half the seafare you earn on basic operations and island tokens being throwaway currency that's almost worthless.

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Originally Posted by Teena

Not sure if I missed someone replying to this - but this caught me out too.

You don't click on the seeds themselves, you click on the empty box where the seeds need to be moved to. This will then give you a little pop up panel with items you can place in the box under your mouse (bit like when you have to turn in a quest item).

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Well, crap. I was trying to click them in the inventory. I didn't even notice an extra box appearing only in sow mode because it wasn't there up until that point.

Really feel like that part could have been explained better.

So I got to level 5, upgraded the main building, 2 workshops and 2 granaries, 1 landmark complete and another nearly complete.

At that point I'm at around 5000 exp from the next level and can see two options:
1: Grind it out, meaning I click around 500 times on material collection.
2: Afk and just collect exp from workshop items, animals and perhaps the fields(no idea how long they take).

So my options are basicly hardcore grind or do nothing/afk.

Does not feel like a good design imo and can only wonder what it will be like on higher levels when I can't get much exp boost from making new buildings.

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Originally Posted by Archaell

The World is Mad. While Island Sanctuary may seem large to players, in reality it's gonna be much smaller in tems of data compared to housing. Just few 1/0 choices to customize which allows every player to get their island home.

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... Are you ignoring the fact that the island also needs to keep track of your island inventory, your workshop progress, your animals, and your crops?

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Originally Posted by Aorix

Way too overpraised in this thread.

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Satisfaction with content is subjective. The people "overpraising" IS clearly love it and appreciate it for what it is. Some people like raiding and really praise the New Hotness when it comes out. I hate raiding, should I call their expressed opinions Overpraising because I don't like raiding?

No. That would be stupid and demeaning to their opinion.

We get to pet the sheeps! We get to have our own [REDACTED!]

Now, how the heck do you get up the ladders to see out of the top of the windmills?

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Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen

Indeed

Its a case of " i love this im enjoying the hell out of it " > hours later> oh no i didn't take a break now im bored > log onto forums> complain.exe

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I do not believe waiting an arbitrary amount of time between picking up resources makes the game play loop any more interesting.

If your answer to "make island sancutary fun" is to not play the content, then I have some bad news for you.

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Originally Posted by Kisshu

So I got to level 5, upgraded the main building, 2 workshops and 2 granaries, 1 landmark complete and another nearly complete.

At that point I'm at around 5000 exp from the next level and can see two options:
1: Grind it out, meaning I click around 500 times on material collection.
2: Afk and just collect exp from workshop items, animals and perhaps the fields(no idea how long they take).

So my options are basicly hardcore grind or do nothing/afk.

Does not feel like a good design imo and can only wonder what it will be like on higher levels when I can't get much exp boost from making new buildings.

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I browsed the achievements for it, and it's appears level 10 is the highest. I can understand it's content for the long run, but the way tokens are, once you max out there is basically no reason to do any gathering yourself. The island tokens are super under valued compared to other content and in island sanctuary, nothing uses it. Just log in, water plants and feed pets/collect daily and weekly send mammets out and set workshop build orders.

Spent a couple hours trying out the new plantation owner gamemode. Built the workshop.

The gameplay is a clicker. 90% of the gameplay is running around clicking anything that glows. The other 10% is navigating menus to order your robot slaves to build stuff.

I can't help but compare the Island Sanctuary to the Sunsong Ranch from WoW, which had much more engaging gameplay. You didn't plant seeds by navigating a menu or just clicking. You grabbed a shovel and tilled the dirt. Then you planted the seeds. Then you grabbed the watering can and watered the soil. Then as your crops grew, you had to do various things to maintain them, such as grabbing a tool to spray the bugs, or grabbing weeds and slowly walking away from the dirt patch to yank the weeds out of the ground. Or a bullriding minigame where you ride a living vine that is strangling your crops and beating the crap out of it. etc. You also expanded the farm through a lot of interesting quests with the NPC neighbors you cared about, rather than just clicking and navigating a menu.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

I browsed the achievements for it, and it's appears level 10 is the highest. I can understand it's content for the long run, but the way tokens are, once you max out there is basically no reason to do any gathering yourself. The island tokens are super under valued compared to other content and in island sanctuary, nothing uses it. Just log in, water plants and feed pets/collect daily and weekly send mammets out and set workshop build orders.

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where are Island achievements located?

I am enjoying it though I also dont understand why one currency is bascially needed for everything but hard to get and the other is bascially useless if you dont want materia. For something that is meant to be relaxing its surely focusing a lot on the grind. But I guess I will slowly work towards the things that I want.

After all I do need to build and sell items which means that I need to gather the materials. That alone will keep me busy with it and is a nice change between other content.

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Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal

Spent a couple hours trying out the new plantation owner gamemode. Built the workshop.

The gameplay is a clicker. 90% of the gameplay is running around clicking anything that glows. The other 10% is navigating menus to order your robot slaves to build stuff.

I can't help but compare the Island Sanctuary to the Sunsong Ranch from WoW, which had much more engaging gameplay. You didn't plant seeds by navigating a menu or just clicking. You grabbed a shovel and tilled the dirt. Then you planted the seeds. Then you grabbed the watering can and watered the soil. Then as your crops grew, you had to do various things to maintain them, such as grabbing a tool to spray the bugs, or grabbing weeds and slowly walking away from the dirt patch to yank the weeds out of the ground. Or a bullriding minigame where you ride a living vine that is strangling your crops and beating the crap out of it. etc. You also expanded the farm through a lot of interesting quests with the NPC neighbors you cared about, rather than just clicking and navigating a menu.

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If you were looking for engaging gameplay, you bamboozled yoself :p

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

If you were looking for engaging gameplay, you bamboozled yoself :p

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So....we shouldn't expect SE to be able to deliver engaging gameplay?

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Originally Posted by Bukachu

where are Island achievements located?

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Achievements > Character > General

Scroll alllll the way down. (I hope/assume they'll add it's own section in the future.)

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

So....we shouldn't expect SE to be able to deliver engaging gameplay?

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We were specifically told this would not be. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

We were specifically told this would not be. :rolleyes:

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I'm not finding the quote, can you pull that up for us? :3

was having fun at the start, but then I build the workshop and got hit with a market graph and the expectation to run a sweatshop as the main drive of farming tokens, and my enjoyment dropped to rock bottom.
I dunno about you Yoshida, but I don't consider "managing project workflow with EXCEL spreadsheets" as something relaxing