To Devs about Adventurer Plates

Would like this for dungeons as well. I really like Adventurer plates and am excited to see what they do with it in the future.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Over reactions to criticisms aside, surely you understand the difference between chancing upon some rando in town in a bikini and being able to just adjust your camera or move VS having a full on downblouse/upskirt blasted across your screen that won't go away until you manually click it away.

The fact that this is even a possibility makes the idea dead on arrival without restraints.

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Considering there is a 5 second period in which plates show up when you enter the new PvP mode, I don’t think it’s totally out of the question. But anyway, I’m over arguing it.

To the OP: it’s a great idea and hopefully we will see this plates expanded, as they give us an entirely new layer of creativity and expression in this multiplayer game.

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

I wonder how the people who are scared of portraits deal with normal content. Do y’all close your eyes when another player is around just in case the armor they’re wearing “trolls” you? Genuinely curious, since the idea of poses, emotes, and glamour seems to be such an “in your face” interference of your experience.

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I don't give a damn about what you're wearing or what your character look like, and i sure as hell wouldn't give a commendation based on any of that. In fact, the only reason I'd give a commendation is if someone did something commendable (I though about doing it to complete that challenge log entry once, but I changed my mind).

In other words, I don't hand out commendations. This system would be a pointless waste of the devs time and mine.

If you're looking for validation or internet points or whatever, you can post your character posing somewhere on the internet. I'm sure there are sites for that.

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Marbles

In other words, I don't hand out commendations. This system would be a pointless waste of the devs time and mine.

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For you. That doesn't mean that it's pointless for everyone else. Judging by my own experiences in random duties, I firmly believe that most players hand out commendations. The current commendation button is kind of clunky and annoying. The OP's rendition of what the dialog could look like is far better than what we have now. I'd love to just have the dialog pop up at the end of the instance so that I can quickly click on a portrait before the player that I want to commend zones out. The current system is a scramble to open the dialog and hope that I can click the name and commend buttons in time for my commendation to go through.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Well about that..

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Saw a lala face close up simulating climax in pvp that was so unexpected it was hilarious :D

Reporting for upskirt pic ? I swear some people reaction are just weird when it come to sexuality.

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Originally Posted by hagare

Oh yes they are. What number are you going for?
I'm going 4, 6, 7, 14

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ohh you've got good taste lol. Man, it's a hard choice for me because I actually like most of the designs! 6, 7, 8, 14 for me personally... so maybe more like "all of them". I actually like 15's - or seemingly looked like 15's - design but I'm not too much of a fan of the game itself, so hmm on that..

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Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa

If it's an optional toggle in the settings? Sure, why not; options never hurt anyone. Those who like it and want to see it can toggle it on, those who don't can continue as normal.

Hard no if it's something forced, though. I don't feel like seeing "uguu kawaii catgirl" #2980774987 who thinks they took a 'unique' picture for their plate every single time a duty ends and I'm just trying to comm whoever contributed best.

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idk but any of you guys, I've seen enough cat girl butt to last me a lifetime already. Like yeah people wear bikinis and such, huge difference when I can turn my camera away from them vs being blasted with a picture of their butt from their plate lmao. so yeah hard no for me on that ngl

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Originally Posted by Padudu

ohh you've got good taste lol. Man, it's a hard choice for me because I actually like most of the designs! 6, 7, 8, 14 for me personally... so maybe more like "all of them". I actually like 15's - or seemingly looked like 15's - design but I'm not too much of a fan of the game itself, so hmm on that..

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sadly, my funds are limited xD
If it wasn't, I'd be getting all of em.
Or at least adding the ones with the sprites.

truth be told. I like XI's design better than XIV's :p
but I like 14 more soo......

It needs to be an opt in thing to replace the normal Commendations. People don't want to have catgirl butt plates blasted across their screen at the end of dungeons. Well some people do, but it should be a choice.

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Originally Posted by Raim

It needs to be an opt in thing to replace the normal Commendations. People don't want to have catgirl butt plates blasted across their screen at the end of dungeons. Well some people do, but it should be a choice.

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Yes I agree. But I’m sure the devs are working on making sure the plates themselves will not allow pictures like that. This commendation screen will also hopefully allow players to commend those who have already left the duty.

While I agree commendations should be handed out to the better performing team members this more about modernizing the UI and taking what the devs are already doing and giving feedback so they can make the most of their work.

Remember that some rewards, although just in PvP at the moment, are now additional customization options for your plates, so if they add these types of rewards it would make sense to put these plates in highly visible areas so people feel like these rewards merit acquiring them.

In my opinion though, this method should be the default new option with a toggle in the settings to opt out. Since I do believe the majority of the player base would enjoy the change.

*** provided as you say, that users don’t make trashy pictures ubiquitous***

This idea is so good I can't help but see it as a must have. People being so prude about some butt/crotch need to calm down, its not the end of the world or even the day for something so minor at the end of a dungeon. This adventure plate is a huge boost to glamouring fun and it needs to spread somewhere for sure.

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Originally Posted by hagare

sadly, my funds are limited xD
If it wasn't, I'd be getting all of em.
Or at least adding the ones with the sprites.

truth be told. I like XI's design better than XIV's :p
but I like 14 more soo......

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lmao my exact thought - I'm getting the 14 shirt because well.. I play/love it, plus the design isn't horrible & I'd definitely wear it. some other ones though do slam.
but I'm not exactly rich either so :P.. I'll have to control my impulses, hard as it is. I think I saw a cactuar sprite? shirt and that's 100% what I would go for lol

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Originally Posted by Puc

People being so prude about some butt/crotch need to calm down

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yeah everyone says this until lalafells also start shoving their butt/crotch in front of the camera smh

anyways, I guess call me prude if you want, I prefer to pick my own time to see low poly booty/crotch lmao and would prefer not seeing it every other DF I run. I would go okay with an opt-in/out though

the linking to gear set feature not working is infuriating

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Originally Posted by Rowde

the linking to gear set feature not working is infuriating

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Its Beta though, they will get it fixed. There is a lot of jank right now for sure.

Even tho I got quoted here as a naysayer, Im not against the idea. I think the plates are a nice addition. My post on that other thread was meant more like an observation, rather than a complaint. If people wanna do wierd crotch pics, thats on them, idc

I'd be fine with this, if it was either optional, or it only appeared when you opened the comms menu. I don't want screens shoved into my face every duty, that I have to actively remove. a lot of people just want to get the dungeon done and leave.

Do it. I would dig this.

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

This is a great idea. I'm sure there will be a bunch of naysayers in the thread who would be against it even though it has absolutely no negative effect on their experience. Lot of people here seem to hate fun things.

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It will negatively affect their experience if they feel it will harm their experience, nor say how people's profile pictures might affect who gets the commendation or how it would make Square Enix limit and constrain the profile system due to it going more mainstream. A lot can go wrong with this, so don't say it doesn't affect anyone's experience just because it doesn't affect yours.

The commendation system is meant to commend those in the party for their efforts. Instead, you would be making it about those with a nicer profile, defeating the point of the system that barely functions because it's mainly just a tank or healer who would get commended.

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Originally Posted by Xirean

How is not wanting to be forced to see a crotch an irrelevant complaint?

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They are likely showing a crotch in their plate.

The solution to lewd adventure plates is obvious: Remove 2B leggings.

This will have the additional benefit of forcing every Limsa catgirl to actually wear something new for once instead of being a carbon copy of each other's glams.

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Originally Posted by rewd

They are likely showing a crotch in their plate.

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I've posted my plate on the forum (which reveals the statement above to be utterly false), but sure buddy. The more logical assumption here is that I don't mind people taking pictures of their video game character.

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Originally Posted by Mat13295

The solution to lewd adventure plates is obvious: Remove 2B leggings.

This will have the additional benefit of forcing every Limsa catgirl to actually wear something new for once instead of being a carbon copy of each other's glams.

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Removing features isn't the answer lol

Give us a toggle for these plates. Tired of getting an ass shoved into my face when I wanna smash people with my axe.

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

Removing features isn't the answer lol

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(+1 to delete all bikini/underwear glam to put the mi'qote glam community in shambles)

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Well about that..

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Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn

Perfect example. "I want to report people for taking a picture of their character!"

Never change.

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Not all of us are into the NSFW pics of people's panties and underskirt shots suddenly popping up out of nowhere when we're not even playing an 18+ rated game.
Do you want to have fun? Sure. Nobody is stopping you from doing whatever you want on your screen, but when it comes to my screen when I don't want it then that's the issue we're talking about.
If you like it then it doesn't necessarily mean it's fun or others should like it too.

I want clarification on whether Adventurer Plates could be considered an "Obscene/Indecent Expression", as listed in the Prohibited Activities doc.

If butt shots are a problem, then isn't the glamour the problem? I don't see how it makes sense to strike an account for a butt shot, when if it wasn't for either the glamour or the emote, there wouldn't be any strike. This isn't modded content, this is all available in-game.

What about cases where people have "normal" glamours, but are covering their characters with the Plate Accents, possibly to simulate nudity? How will that be handled?

I believe the best solution is to disable Adventurer Plates by default and to let players do what they want with them.

However, I'm going to bet that SE will just lock the camera movement instead. But players will still use half-nude glamours, so the problem remains.

Whatever happens, I'm sure it will involve severely limiting a great feature to a point where it might as well not even exist. Start removing the customization and all adventurer plates will look the same, defeating the purpose.

But if we go down that path, then we need to be consistent. Any revealing clothing should also be removed from the game. Maybe just get rid of glamour altogether. You know, just to be safe.

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Originally Posted by Luin

If butt shots are a problem, then isn't the glamour the problem? I don't see how it makes sense to strike an account for a butt shot, when if it wasn't for either the glamour or the emote, there wouldn't be any strike. This isn't modded content, this is all available in-game.

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We should just remove smallclothes then, it's our only solution so that people won't make lewd poses.

this is kind of a weird argument lol, glamours and emotes don't enable someone to make booty shots, they do that all on their own. Huge difference between striking a normal pose/emote in a bikini vs. full on crotch pic/sticker simulating nudity that you'd see on tinder or onlyfans or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Padudu

We should just remove smallclothes then, it's our only solution so that people won't make lewd poses.

this is kind of a weird argument lol, glamours and emotes don't enable someone to make booty shots, they do that all on their own. Huge difference between striking a normal pose/emote in a bikini vs. full on crotch pic/sticker simulating nudity that you'd see on tinder or onlyfans or something like that.

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Plus the game never frames players wearing such glamour as such in cutscenes. It's basically fetishism of body part on display that crosses the line to obscenity.

I don't know if splashing this in everyone's face at the end of every dungeon, raid or trial is going to make people more likely to give comms or resent the process even more.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

I don't know if splashing this in everyone's face at the end of every dungeon, raid or trial is going to make people more likely to give comms or resent the process even more.

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I could easily see a scenario where I was planning on commending someone but decide not to if they had a plate that presented their ass in a suggestive way.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

The reason is the world doesn't revolve around just you, and that other people do find reasons for it to be shown at the end of duties so they can express themselves in a nice calling card. I'm not interested in novelties. I'm interested in the Devs finding wide spread use and success in the features they invest in developing.

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Also I know I am going back to an old thread, but does no one see the irony is saying the world doesn't revolve around you while insisting on a feature being forced upon all other players because they personally want to see it more?

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

Also I know I am going back to an old thread, but does no one see the irony is saying the world doesn't revolve around you while insisting on a feature being forced upon all other players because they personally want to see it more?

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The user stated they saw no reason for it, despite evidence to the contrary that other people did find it appealing in the self same thread. So it was a response to make them aware that others may not feel that way. It struck me as self centered. The reason is that other people want it. And the potential to inconvenience others is low.

Later during the thread I explained there could be an opt out method no problem, showing consideration for others. So I think forcing this feature is a little bit fabricated on your part.

However I do not hide my appreciation for the work the Devs have put in and my desire to see it expanded in locations it would make sense.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

You need to make this go mainstream to maximize its value. Therefore please remove the little commendation tab at the bottom right of the screen at the end of the dungeon and then:

1. When you exit a dungeon the screen changes to the new commendation screen displaying adventurer plates
2. You click on the one you want to commend or a No Thanks/Skip
3. You load into the overworld

Then, people will actively be very interested in making their plates as cool as possible.

Late Edit, this is more or less what I mean, taken directly from the PVP page and modified with Paint a bit.

https://i.imgur.com/tuWJVIe.png

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Originally Posted by Ath192

The user stated they saw no reason for it, despite evidence to the contrary that other people did find it appealing in the self same thread. So it was a response to make them aware that others may not feel that way. It struck me as self centered.

Later during the thread I explained there could be an opt out method no problem, showing consideration for others. So I think forcing this feature is a little bit fabricated on your part.

However I do not hide my appreciation for the work the Devs have put in and my desire to see it expanded in locations it would make sense.

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Excuse you? The bold and underlined shows the lie on your part.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Excuse you? The bold and underlined shows the lie on your part.

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Yes I said that. Did you read all the pages? You have to remember there’s other pages where people pose these questions and I give answers.

In fact, the sentence right before the one you highlighted tells you all you need to know about whether this is forced or not.

If there is an opt out method then how can it be forced? Unless you have a different definition of forcing something than I do.

Only if SE bans permanently degenerates because in less than 5 minutes after the 6.1 a lot of ""people"" in Crystal started to abuse the tool to create obscene plates with their generic character (always fem miqotes) some of them directly +18.

If I'm not mistaken I recall seeing someone showing his fem cat naked ( porn mods)

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Only if SE bans permanently degenerates because in less than 5 minutes after the 6.1 a lot of ""people"" in Crystal started to abuse the tool to create obscene plates with their generic character (always fem miqotes) some of them directly +18.

If I'm not mistaken I recall seeing someone showing his fem cat naked ( porn mods)

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Yeah I generally disagree with NSFW pictures. I don’t have too much of an issue with them personally since I don’t care as much but I can see it being too aggravating to a lot of users.

As long as we can toggle them off from showing up. I don’t need another pop up in my face like the achievements tab popping up in each location I enter.

No thanks. it was cool but it should belong in CC PvP tbh. I don't need 8 plates showing up after a raid. I just want to get my stuff and go on. If I feel the need to commend someone I will do it but I usually don't unless they did something to warrant it

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Yeah I generally disagree with NSFW pictures. I don’t have too much of an issue with them personally since I don’t care as much but I can see it being too aggravating to a lot of users.

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Those who stream can end up getting there account suspended because of stuff like that showing up on the portraits so its a problem that has to be fixed as soon as possible.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Yes I said that. Did you read all the pages? You have to remember there’s other pages where people pose these questions and I give answers.

In fact, the sentence right before the one you highlighted tells you all you need to know about whether this is forced or not.

If there is an opt out method then how can it be forced? Unless you have a different definition of forcing something than I do.

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Honest question. Why not just have it opt in? It's changing the system to something new, and seems odd to force the change and make you hop through hoops to change it back, short settings they may be.

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Originally Posted by myahele

Depending on how wide-spread the crotch/butt profiles become, I wonder if the devs will make it so that the camera can't go below the waist? Which will be unfortunate since there are some nice full-body profiles that I saw in PvP. People say that this is a family-friendly mmo and that we have to keep in mind that children also play this game too.

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It's a T rated game

No they dont. Theres players every single day that stream with plugins and addons visible. They have never been banned for it. I doubt anyone will ever get banned for lewd adventurer plates, even modded ones on their stream.