SE.. You have tailed races, you know?

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Originally Posted by Atreides

I solved that issue by turning into a race without tail, I feel free now.

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Corrupt a wish: Now you can't use hats.

XD

(well unless you don't really care about them... )

What they also need to do is stop with the freaking collars already. They know it clips with 95% of hairstyles yet keep making them, meaning pointails or super short hair are pretty much the only options.

Just give me the option to toggle the cape off, it looks terrible most of the time anyway because it's either simply rigged to move with the leg bones or some kind of rigid "cape" bone.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Corrupt a wish: Now you can't use hats.

XD

(well unless you don't really care about them... )

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In all my years of FFXIV I never cared about hats, always had them disabled anyway, haha.

I dont want to lose my tail. I’d rather them make the cape shorter.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

What they also need to do is stop with the freaking collars already. They know it clips with 95% of hairstyles yet keep making them, meaning pointails or super short hair are pretty much the only options.

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I like collars, however.
They should let you tie hairstyles to glam plates/ gear sets.

So if I use a glam that has a collar I can have a shorter hairstyle without having to go and get a haircut.

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

I dont want to lose my tail. I’d rather them make the cape shorter.

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Shorter capes look bad on those without tails.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

I like collars, however.
They should let you tie hairstyles to glam plates/ gear sets.

So if I use a glam that has a collar I can have a shorter hairstyle without having to go and get a haircut.

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Yesss, this is what I would really love to have!

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Originally Posted by Reinha

You will never get a toggle. Best get used to it. They could just modify the gear on tailed races and completely remove the cape from them, like how they alter gear between male/female sometimes.

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A toggle would be great, but I just don't see SE doing it unfortunately. I don't see them removing capes for tailed races either, so the next best solution is for them to just stop making so much gear with capes, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Saimeren

Why do you have holes in your shirts? For your arms. Trails are just extra limbs. So just pretend there's a hole in the cape that you put your tail through.

Problem solved.

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While I appreciate that some people can imagine issues away, I cannot.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Probably quite a few. Players have been asking for caped gear for years. SE has decided to provide it finally.

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I don't know why anyone would want caped pieces, even if they didn't have a tail, as they don't have proper physics. To each their own.

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Originally Posted by Exosapien

Kind of sick of all the gear we're not allowed to have because of tails.

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Yeah, if it has a cape, I just consider it unusable.

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Originally Posted by Atreides

I solved that issue by turning into a race without tail, I feel free now.

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Viera are the only non-tailed race I will actually play, and even then they have their own issues that are arguably worse.

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Originally Posted by Saimeren

Why do you have holes in your shirts? For your arms. Trails are just extra limbs. So just pretend there's a hole in the cape that you put your tail through.

Problem solved.

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Downside to this is the fact the tails have physics and move sooo that “imagined” tail hole doesn’t really hold up. That tail hole is gonna be HUGE with all that movement.

Viera helmets

Wish I could toggle off the armor tail from the DRK AF, the armor is gorgeous only that bothers me a lot is that unused tail armor

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Originally Posted by Mysticunicycle

Viera helmets

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No joke, EW really just made me realize I care more about elegant looking gowns, capes, and bustles than hats. I get fuzzy ears and have no butt clipping, and suddenly I feel way less limited.

Maybe, but I can't even wear hats.....

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Originally Posted by Takamorisan

Wish I could toggle off the armor tail from the DRK AF, the armor is gorgeous only that bothers me a lot is that unused tail armor

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Looking at the new time gear, I was like boy this armor looks pretty sweet, then noticed armor tail attached to it. God it’s horrendous.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Just pretend there's a hole there for your tail to fit through, problem solved.

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This is ridiculous. Tail should stay under the cloak. I've long since stopped wearing hats because they keep getting more and more ridiculous on miqo'te, guess now I will have to avoid new body gear too...

Tbh, they even failed with Zidane's set, so I do not really have hope for the future.

My issue is with the armor pieces that have little armor tails that just sit there even if I have no tail! We don't all want tails.

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Originally Posted by demonette

My issue is with the armor pieces that have little armor tails that just sit there even if I have no tail! We don't all want tails.

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Funnily enough, at least with the recent DRK piece, it looks better on a non-tailed race, since it hovers over a tailed race's tail.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

https://i.ibb.co/vYJnLyG/adsfasdfasdfsa.png

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Considering how the games are made it's a choice of making tail clip through the cape (lesser evil) or make a big pseudo butt on cape to include the possible tail. Or make each set for each race separately which will make the game like 3 times bigger in terms of wight (bigger evil)

Choose wisely

First outfit of the patch..

https://i.ibb.co/RD0XWvj/ffxiv-04122022-075404-985.png

https://i.ibb.co/M6s1btm/ffxiv-04122022-075408-371.png

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At least the necklace glamour is nice..

Why does there have to be a cape on everything now? It's split, so the compromise is miqo'te tails don't look as bad. :rolleyes:

The alternative is having the caps bend over the tails like it WoW with the Draenei, Tauren, and Female Worgen (Maybe the newer Fox things too, idk I quit before then). I 100% prefer the tail clipping through as the cloak bending over the tail looks even more atrocious.

I’m never wearing any capes where my tail awkwardly clips through them rather than doing something else like being pushed down; I hate the clipping and it’s super distracting.

There’s no such thing as clipping. Every warrior of light has a pair of scissors and cuts a small hole where the tail goes. It’s intentional, see?

The devs just don't care about the atrocious clipping in general. I'm absolutely sick of all of the chestpieces with collars and hoods on the back personally, it's no wonder the majority of hairstyles we get are the same generic short haired look and even half of those still somehow manage to clip.

Hey, the cape has a slit for the tail. I'll take it.

I mean, I still hate the fake "cape physics" they have on them, but if we must, at least they threw us a bone.

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Originally Posted by ValStryder

The alternative is having the caps bend over the tails like it WoW with the Draenei, Tauren, and Female Worgen...

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Worgen don't have tails

Ideally they'd design gear with tailed races in mind, but clipping is preferable to removing tails or ears. I hate when they decide to do that. It's one of the reasons I play the race I play.

When people ask "Why play a boring human in a fantasy game" this is why. That and the whole Hrothgar thing.

Said it once, I'll say it again. If you're not willing to accommodate bestial races in armor, then don't even bother in the first place. You set yourself up for failure every time.
Sit at the drawing board, make a race, and then seriously ask yourself "Do I see myself making armor that fits this race for every single piece of armor that will ever be put into this game?" if the answer is no, then don't bother adding that race. Do it right or not at all.

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

There’s no such thing as clipping. Every warrior of light has a pair of scissors and cuts a small hole where the tail goes. It’s intentional, see?

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And that cape hole moves around constantly too?

These need to make a comeback.

https://i.ibb.co/Qj3VWYD/dafdsafsd-A.png

:)

I use the radiant fending top on my paladin and that has tail armour, which was certainly nice to see. As a result, I dont think I'll be changing it anytime soon unless something else also takes the tail into account. But I agree with OP

lol

https://i.imgur.com/DMKEd5C.png

https://i.imgur.com/qKmrj9q.png

Looks like all of my old image links are broken now in this thread. That's fun.

The conversation you had with someone in chat, reminds me of how some players either feel too tired to give a full explanation of how they feel on their opinions so they resort to lazy jokes, and comebacks/passive aggression. [it's like they forget as a consumer, we have a reason to dictate what we want, within reasons which tbh, are not over stepped in many situations that get push back. Think what Many will on Gender/Race/Glamour/PVP/Shop/Etc.]

it always felt weird when it broke off oddly through the armor and gear.
I'd almost want them to make the clothing ride higher on the bottom, or lower to just bypass the tail area to give an easier hole, or just be under the tail.[while the whole added slot/hole cover in some ARR clothing is nice. you can see how it changes in some.., Images on the net, specially if the body isn't vanilla with how the tail works as well.]

So for Actual clothing, simply Riding higher or lower would be an improvement.
For Capes, a split/a wide gap around where the tail should pass/or Simply put Variable Fabric Capes<Solid near the top, and going transparent nearer to the bottom, with a split near the tailzone/transparent could add a new style to it visually>. [For the huge gap near the tail, it would make physical sense that the cape could move in the wind whilst not being explicitly clipping through the tail. and the gap can be shapped in ways that fit the design, or detail of the Glamour/armor]

Toggles are a thing some have mentioned in threads and asked for. as some games have toggles for hoods<looks at WHM with hood in recent ad>, or opening/closing Cloaks/Jackets/Trenchcoats/etc. in the front.<makes sense I'd the outfit has clearly designed Clothes underneath> might even make it so certain effects of Glow of certain gear could disappear/turn off. Thus the who Cape Delete/Edit could work if they implement.

TLDR: with the unknown changes coming in 7.0 Graphics. we cant really through out past changes as set In stone.
SPECIALLY IF THEY PLAN 10 MORE YEARS.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

lol

https://i.imgur.com/DMKEd5C.png

https://i.imgur.com/qKmrj9q.png

Looks like all of my old image links are broken now in this thread. That's fun.

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Did you fix them? Read the entire thread just now and was able to see all photos.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

That’s the trade-off of playing a tailed race. You have an expressive and customizable tail, I look good in capes.

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Sis, I wish! Unlike Miqo'te, my tail is as unexpressive as an old man coated in botox! It's about as cardboard as my ears x_x

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

The conversation you had with someone in chat, reminds me of how some players either feel too tired to give a full explanation of how they feel on their opinions so they resort to lazy jokes, and comebacks/passive aggression.

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I resemble that remark.

It's weird seeing some sets where they clearly took the time and effort to accommodate tails and then they just gave up. I'll say the same thing I said about Hrothgar and Viera hair and ears, if you're going to create something ask yourself "is this something I'm willing to put 100% of my effort into every time we create something new for this race to wear?" if the answer is no then don't even bother trying because you're just setting yourself up for failure every single time.

This also doesn't apply just to tailed cosmetics, SE has a very terrible habit of creating new things almost every patch and then just forgetting about it or giving up on it.

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

Did you fix them? Read the entire thread just now and was able to see all photos.

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Oh! That's good they are back up for me now too! I was worried about my old outfit screens in other threads. :o

The one thing I don't miss on my main is my tail clipping through capes and stuff. Was a friggin eyesore! Worsw than any hair clipping problems we used to have.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I think they look horrific. Completely ruins sets, and I don't want to fantasia off of a tailed race either, before someone brings that up. I seriously doubt they would do something about it, it'd be great, but I don't think so. They just need to do less capes, for starters.

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Au Ra and Miqote races are highly overrated races anyway. Fantasia into something else please