Wanna Glam it? Play it!

I've been going around making Assassin's Creed-esque glamours for my two characters and I would of greatly appreciated being able to use 1 type-51 hood of scouting/aiming instead of having to farm for both for the outfits I had in mind.

I got lucky on my main and got a scouting hood from my first run, but my alt had to fight through 8-10 runs to get a hood of aiming, and not all of them were all that smooth. And by not that smooth, I mean "oh dear lord why am I tanking an add as a bard, oh dear God here comes a tankbuster save me healers, oh sweet Jesus we wiped to the add phase on 9S how in the-" not that smooth.

Also, it'd be nice to have access to a decent hood for the other roles for the glams I have in mind, especially Red Mage (their aesthetic is the closest in tone to Ezio's and Arno's).

Yes please there are SO many great pieces that would be fantastic for my brd or whm or dnc or even nin that are for other classes and it's like ??? please
Heck even just caster and healer sets that are recolors of each other there are so many where one just. Looks better. Arghhh

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

I want both the ability to wear any gear (short of artifact) for any class I've leveled enough AND the transmog system for WoW.

I swear if I could just keep a collection of appearances without holding on to gear I would spend ridiculous amounts of time leveling alt jobs and farming old content.

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^^^^YES seriously I don't even bother doing old dungeons at all if I can help it, but I would if I actually had the space for the glams on some of them. There are so many I'd only use every now and then that just aren't worth farming for, ever, but if I could keep the appearance forever? Then yeah, I'd go back and get them.

Yes, this is mostly a bump but... god, I can't stop thinking about how much better the Glamour system would be if we could use most everything regardless of current class, even with that caveat (which I think would make it "fair", since you have to earn it first!)

The only thing I'd change I think is making the glam unlocks be linked to traits rather than directly to level.

For instance leveling Warrior to 50 would unlock 'Fending Mastery I' and unlock all tank armor 50 and below for glamour. The main reason would be to encourage the 'wanna glam it, play it!' idea and stop people bypassing most of the playing it part by getting what they want by doing the first quest for an advanced job and stopping there.

Gunbreaker could have a similar trait of course, but at level 80.

PLD and WAR: Fending Mastery I (l.50) II (l.60) III (l.70) IV (l.80) and V (l.90).
DRK: Fending Mastery II, III, IV & V.
GNB: Fending Mastery IV & V.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

see above

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... yeah, that's a good point, actually! I forgot that starting levels are kind of all over the place, guessing that wasn't really the case back in FFXI

Hopefully it won't take 13 years for a feature like this to make it into FFXIV like it did XI... though that said we're most of the way there already (depending whether you count 1.0 or not)

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Originally Posted by Jandor

stop people bypassing most of the playing it part by getting what they want by doing the first quest for an advanced job and stopping there.

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But that's exactly what I do now when I want to play dress-up with roles that I don't want to level. :/

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

Want to use a level 70 Tank chestpiece as a DPS or Healer? Level a Tank to 70 and it's yours! Jandor brings up a valid point later in the thread, actually. An alternatively method of assessment would be necessary since some Jobs start way ahead of others, and it would thus be easy to cheat the system...

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And that's somehow the end of the world? I have never been so unphased by something presented as being bad in my life.

It'd go against making people work for it, which I assume the devs would want to, is the thing. But there's no knowing, really

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

It'd go against making people work for it, which I assume the devs would want to, is the thing. But there's no knowing, really

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The glams that the devs want to take effort unlocking already do and still would like the gear from savage. Artifact gear would still need you to lvl the specific job. Ulti glams and relics are completely unaffected by any of this anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be too devastated if it was easy as hell but... they wouldn't do that would they

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Originally Posted by Iscah

But that's exactly what I do now when I want to play dress-up with roles that I don't want to level. :/

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You'd still be able to do that ;)

Bumping this so that maybe the people arguing back-n-forth for a universal Glamour on/off toggle will grace use with some of that energy...?

i dont like this idea
i dont even know why, i just dont

Sorry to hear.

On the positive side of things it would be optional, and dependent on leveling jobs you might not be interested in, besides. And healers running around in armour can't be any worse than pig and frog costumes...?

wow don't let you transmog gear you cannot use (like a mage in heavy armor) so why would FF 14 do it :P
heck you can't even collect the appearance of gear you cannot use in the wardrobe if your not on that class

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Originally Posted by _Koneko_

wow don't let you transmog gear you cannot use (like a mage in heavy armor) so why would FF 14 do it :P
heck you can't even collect the appearance of gear you cannot use in the wardrobe if your not on that class

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Honestly sounds like even more reason for them to, then!

Jokes aside, the feature has precedent in FFXI, as mentioned. Different teams and all, I know, but I don't think FFXIV is averse to drawing inspiration (to say nothing of the majority of its race and creature designs) from its predecessor

Hey how's it going

(i'm not giving up!)

Yup, still disappointed in the redundant restrictions.

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

Different teams and all, I know, but I don't think FFXIV is averse to drawing inspiration (to say nothing of the majority of its race and creature designs) from its predecessor

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i mean yoshida looks after both mmos so..... i hope it isnt impossible

I've been saying for years we need this. It honestly feels a bit disjointed with the overall game design that you can't do it already.

Leveling multiple jobs to unlock glamours for everything just makes sense in a game where one character can be every class/job.

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Originally Posted by _Koneko_

wow don't let you transmog gear you cannot use (like a mage in heavy armor) so why would FF 14 do it :P
heck you can't even collect the appearance of gear you cannot use in the wardrobe if your not on that class

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Why would WoW be the measure for what we CAN'T do here? I mean, their system as a whole is imo far better than FF14's to begin with, purely because they actually have a glamour log at all. But. Y'know. I also wanted WoW to ease up more on their requirements pretty much from the time they added transmog, and was always glad when they did (and they have improved it over the years).

I don't play WoW anymore, but I am still a fan of having more options for my fictional dress up characters.

Maybe I'm just different but I rather have them make more cool options in the form of the costumes like they have been doing.

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Originally Posted by Avidria

Why would WoW be the measure for what we CAN'T do here? I mean, their system as a whole is imo far better than FF14's to begin with, purely because they actually have a glamour log at all. But. Y'know. I also wanted WoW to ease up more on their requirements pretty much from the time they added transmog, and was always glad when they did (and they have improved it over the years).

I don't play WoW anymore, but I am still a fan of having more options for my fictional dress up characters.

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Especially when wow is so stingy that you can't even wear/transmog holiday items when it's not that specific time of the year, hell it has even items you simply cannot transmog. FFXIV's system is way better in every regard except space for glams.

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Originally Posted by Gameovers

Maybe I'm just different but I rather have them make more cool options in the form of the costumes like they have been doing.

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This suggestion would mainly give existing gear a new lease on life, so it's not like they're mutually exclusive. So ideally yeah, they'd keep adding the occasional Glamour set, regardless

when it comes to tank and dps gear I think that depends on what dps you are

For example dragoon/Samurai rlly should get some tank glamor the reason being is there theme is honestly more tanky than how the warrior is and honestly id agrue that Sam/dragoon is more tanky than warrior theme wise. In other ffs I dont think I've ever used warrior as a tank (are characters that would be a warrior for those without jobs) i've honestly used characters like Samurai and dragoon as tanks more than "warrior in final fantasy games" reason being is warrior is honestly more of a berserk/dpser thats one thing i find weird on here that its a tank.

for healer to tank I can only see one reasoning in this White mage and paladin should rlly be the only one with that option tbh same for dps and tank as well Black mage and drk would also make sense

Now rdm should get up to a point of all glamor at max 80 it should get level 40 glamor's from all jobs outside caster but no higher until it gets higher level so 90-50 etc


now for dps gear to tanks I think this should only be for warriors and maybe gunbreaker users

ps I think ive honestly used Monk to tank more than warrior now I think about it in ff games lol (like even in ff7 Tifa is a strong tank when used right)

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I honestly think the issue isn't the gear not suiting a job thats the issue

its when that job could have fallen into that role but didn't for whatever reasoning (many dps mele jobs) outside ninja could honestly be tanks so i have no issue with them getting tank gear unless they ninja

dancer could have been healer so no issue with them getting healer gear

warrior could been dps (again no issue here)

my issue is when something clearly what it is like summoner/sch wanting the gear from tank /mele dps (now summoner and sch itself should share caster/healer gear

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Originally Posted by _Koneko_

wow don't let you transmog gear you cannot use (like a mage in heavy armor) so why would FF 14 do it :P
heck you can't even collect the appearance of gear you cannot use in the wardrobe if your not on that class

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WoW’s justification for this is rapidly thinning much like it already has here. There are cosmetic sets like heritage armor or the Stormwind guard armor that completely defy any notion of “armor weight” as far as locking your character to cloth, leather, mail, or plate aesthetics.

Spending a little time with games like City of Heroes really reinforces my existing support for this idea. Nobody cares what your character is wearing over there. Your “gear” is comparable to materia, invisible doodads that you slot into your abilities to improve their effectiveness. “Endgame gear” does the exact same thing, but adds set bonuses.

Just let people wear whatever armor they want. If we have to level up other jobs to unlock their glamour options, fine. Keep artifact armor sets completely locked if you want. I really don’t think people would use them anyway since they have a very specific style.

It's time to bump this again

Other MMOs like The Elder Scrolls Online and Star Wars: The Old Republic allow players to use any sort of equipment they want regardless of their class. I wish this was something SE stuck by despite the clipping issues.

They should also fix the awful dungeon drops, because come on... it's ridiculous.

Equipment is set up in a way that I think most of it shouldn't even clip that much even if meant for different Jobs e.g. gloves either go under sleeves, over sleeves below or above elbow etc. You may noticed long "gloves" where the arm is bare straight up remove the sleeves off of most chest pieces regardless of Job

... not to mention, as has been discussed in this thread previously, you can try out any combination you like without issues (in most cases)... but only in the Glamour dresser window

Was looking through the Glamour Gear Request Megathread and... look what I found!

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Originally Posted by Buttons

The Korean version of FFXIV has the DoL and DoH sets available as glamour pieces (with the restriction you need to have the appropriate DoL/DoH levelled).

These sets are all so beautiful I would love to see this in our version:

https://abload.de/img/1tj6d.jpg
https://abload.de/img/tumblr_omk8hzpjpc1qhftwjpq.jpg

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I can't verify this because for some reason all the text on individual item pages on the Korean store is just one big image?? but if it's true, then a version of the system I'm trying to push here already exists in FFXIV proper!

UPDATE: Through the magic of technology (mobile Google Translate...) it seems to be something more along the lines of "complete the Level 70 (in this case) Job quest in order to be able to buy the outfit(s)"? I'm not sure how trustworthy the translation is, but sounds like there's no real time verification that checks whether you've got the right Job(s) leveled. Regardless, that these are "Replica" items does nothing in regards the issue of distinguishing between equipping items, stats and all, vs just Glamouring them.

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

but sounds like there's no real time verification that checks whether you've got the right Job(s) leveled.

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The replica Lv.70 glamour set items in their Crystal Shop state that they are purchasable after 1-day passing from your character completing the Lv70 Class Quest for the respective class set you desire. (as well as the usual viera/hrothgar no hat disclaimers)

Would personally love the CUL shoes and the FSH set though. :D

Hey, been a while. I posted a question about this in the PLL Question Thread and have been pleasantly surprised by the number of likes, so here's hoping they give it due consideration?

In the meantime, I encourage any of you who are still around to share your support with this other thread on removing Glamour restrictions! Unlike my thread, they preferred to keep it simple and to the point. Probably better that way.

I was so sad that healers could not use this. The one time in like forever where they have different models for healers and casters and they choose this one… :(