Early to Rise hairstyle drop rate

174th run.
So far only 1 mount & no hairstyle.

Meanwhile my FCmate who's just as 'insane' as I am: 3 mounts and 2 hairstyles---apparently they had ran roughly the same amount of times. We used our relic weapon progresses to keep track on our number of runs. They joked about how I'll probably won't be seeing the hairstyle unless I finish all 17 relics grind, and now suddenly it doesn't sound so far fetched at all. Heck I won't be surprised if I don't win any at all.

That's RNG for ya'.
/shrug

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

I also joined the 'gave up and bought it' club.

The price has been stagnant for weeks, and DR is getting worse and slower. I was worried the price would start going up more.

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I'm almost glad I bought it at like 8 million flat, who knows how high this hair is going to settle at eventually..

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

174th run.
So far only 1 mount & no hairstyle.

Meanwhile my FCmate who's just as 'insane' as I am: 3 mounts and 2 hairstyles---apparently they had ran roughly the same amount of times. We used our relic weapon progresses to keep track on our number of runs. They joked about how I'll probably won't be seeing the hairstyle unless I finish all 17 relics grind, and now suddenly it doesn't sound so far fetched at all. Heck I won't be surprised if I don't win any at all.

That's RNG for ya'.
/shrug

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Yeah, and with you having that many runs, I'd guess you will be done with the relic grind sooner than later - and so will others. With no real reason for players to step in DR, the queue times are going to get longer and longer, and the item rarer and rarer... and yep! BAD RNG!

One of my friends got 2 mounts and 4 hairstyles in 31 runs. I have done 56 runs and only got the chocobo barding (my friend took pity and gave me the hairstyle). Some are just more lucky than others it seems.

A friend gave me a huge discount on the hairstyle drop so I finally got mine. But my god, the droprate is atrocious. The lack of bad luck protection is insulting. And the fact they don't let you save up silver coins for the hair and mount at least is stupid as all hell.

It's not fun to worry about losing resources and re-grinding them to make faster runs and not make a single step towards getting the hairstyle. Everything to make delubrum faster or easier is less time fighting the rng and brute-forcing it. At the very least let us buy it with silver coins, my god. I've had better luck grinding Castrum Abania for the godforsaken katana, Kotetsu, and getting multiple duplicates of everything else before I finally got it.

I get rng and stuff, but the fact that Delubrum rewards are drops only and going to eventually become impossible to get due to the fact Delubrum is content with an expiration date, unless you get into preorganized runs that probably wont jive with your time, is frustrating.

Just. Bleh. There's my after-work rant on the lack of bad luck protection coupled with an abysmally low drop-rate on cosmetics that, frankly, I'm getting tired of being put in absolutely random nowhere places like the pyros hair and lockboxes...

I reached 60 runs (4 relics) a while back. 0 bardings, hairstyles or mounts. I won't be going back in for them, I put the best essences and actions into every run, lost a few hundred thousand mettle from getting tankbusters to the face whenever the tanks died and while I enjoy DR as a concept, the fact that players are practically discouraged to use essence/actions because they need to be farmed/bought and the sheer length of the raid for no other real reward besides a relic token, means it just isn't worth the time investment.

I had fun in there, but the rewards might as well not exist.

I've done 60 runs and I've gotten nothing. Not a mount barding or hairstyle >_<

Had nothing for my first 60+ runs, then managed to get the hairstyle and the mount in 3 runs on the same day.
Someone sent me a screenshot where they got both at the same time in ONE single chest.
RNG is RNG, you're way better off farming gil and buying those than hope to get them. They're like a bonus as of now because you can't grind for them, except griding gils to buy them.

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Originally Posted by Vaern

Had nothing for my first 60+ runs, then managed to get the hairstyle and the mount in 3 runs on the same day.
Someone sent me a screenshot where they got both at the same time in ONE single chest.
RNG is RNG, you're way better off farming gil and buying those than hope to get them. They're like a bonus as of now because you can't grind for them, except griding gils to buy them.

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The only issue with that is how some people can buy out an entire stock and resell for an absurd price. When the price of the hairstyle was finally starting to drop. Someone bought all of them and tried to resell them at an absurdly inflated price..which promptly restarted everything.

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Originally Posted by Seoulstar

The only issue with that is how some people can buy out an entire stock and resell for an absurd price. When the price of the hairstyle was finally starting to drop. Someone bought all of them and tried to resell them at an absurdly inflated price..which promptly restarted everything.

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Such is a player driven free market.

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Originally Posted by Xion136

A friend gave me a huge discount on the hairstyle drop so I finally got mine. But my god, the droprate is atrocious. The lack of bad luck protection is insulting. And the fact they don't let you save up silver coins for the hair and mount at least is stupid as all hell.

It's not fun to worry about losing resources and re-grinding them to make faster runs and not make a single step towards getting the hairstyle. Everything to make delubrum faster or easier is less time fighting the rng and brute-forcing it. At the very least let us buy it with silver coins, my god. I've had better luck grinding Castrum Abania for the godforsaken katana, Kotetsu, and getting multiple duplicates of everything else before I finally got it.

I get rng and stuff, but the fact that Delubrum rewards are drops only and going to eventually become impossible to get due to the fact Delubrum is content with an expiration date, unless you get into preorganized runs that probably wont jive with your time, is frustrating.

Just. Bleh. There's my after-work rant on the lack of bad luck protection coupled with an abysmally low drop-rate on cosmetics that, frankly, I'm getting tired of being put in absolutely random nowhere places like the pyros hair and lockboxes...

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At least with bunny farming you're still earning gil as a consolation prize from the chests for 10k/25k/100k with the chance of earning a high value mount (or minion in Pagos's case) to sell on the marketboard or party finder, as well as accumulating logograms for later use.
Unless you're actively going into Bozja to farm lost actions as well as farming DR for the slim chance of obtaining it's mount/minion, you're probably losing more gil than you gain by going in again and again, especially since you lose lost essences once you step outside the instance. And it doesn't help that you might not even get the action/essence you want due to appraisal rng. It's just a vicious cycle at that point, and one that I refuse to fall into.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

At least with bunny farming you're still earning gil as a consolation prize from the chests for 10k/25k/100k with the chance of earning a high value mount (or minion in Pagos's case) to sell on the marketboard or party finder, as well as accumulating logograms for later use.
Unless you're actively going into Bozja to farm lost actions as well as farming DR for the slim chance of obtaining it's mount/minion, you're probably losing more gil than you gain by going in again and again, especially since you lose lost essences once you step outside the instance. And it doesn't help that you might not even get the action/essence you want due to appraisal rng. It's just a vicious cycle at that point, and one that I refuse to fall into.

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Imo, every single map in the game should have an equivalent to bunnies, with treasure boxes to find that would allow you to get a chance at any reward in game (except Savage and Ultimate ones). And they could add not only bunnie-like creatures guiding you, but other mechanisms that would require puzzles to solve in order to find the treasure chest, etc. That would add a real exploration side to the open world and keep every zone alive. Repeating the same duty hundreds of times in the dwindling hope of getting a particular item (i.e. DR) is frustrating and kills the fun.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

At least with bunny farming you're still earning gil as a consolation prize from the chests for 10k/25k/100k with the chance of earning a high value mount (or minion in Pagos's case) to sell on the marketboard or party finder, as well as accumulating logograms for later use.
Unless you're actively going into Bozja to farm lost actions as well as farming DR for the slim chance of obtaining it's mount/minion, you're probably losing more gil than you gain by going in again and again, especially since you lose lost essences once you step outside the instance. And it doesn't help that you might not even get the action/essence you want due to appraisal rng. It's just a vicious cycle at that point, and one that I refuse to fall into.

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This. SO much this. Delubrum gives you fragments I can't unlock because I don't really want to DO Bozja. But I have to and farm all these resources to make my runs faster, and since RNG is RNG I could go through five runs and not get a single drop. Why bother farming if nothing I do is actually pushing me closer and is actively hurting my attempts to brute-force the RNG?

It's so stupid, not to mention how the Lost Finds Holster works with you losing actions you swap out. And I don't get gil for ANY delubrum run, Silver coins ONLY go towards Law's Order gear and frankly does nothing for me - I have better gear already, or will be getting it and it as a stopgap is useless.

So I have these coins I don't need...I don't get gil for delubrum runs, I just get doom and despair.

Also here in the “gave up and bought it on the market board club” after 124 runs.

I got two bardings and one mount, so it felt like it was really adamant on giving me everything aside from the hairstyle.

Since I also really didn’t want to do Bozja, I couldn’t unlock the fragments and sold them along with one of the bardings for roughly 1.8 million gil total on the market board.

Probably the most inefficient way to earn gil ever, but at least I was making some kind of profit off of it.
Although, even buying the cheapest fragments off the market board(in order to have basic damage essences for the runs) was cutting into and delaying the rate at which I was raising my gil funds.

The number of runs I did while not getting it just left me tired and disgusted with the horrible rate and not enjoying the game.

As soon as I could afford it, I spent almost all the gil I had on it just so I could enjoy the game at my own pace again; instead of wearing down my sanity on an item I might never get to drop because of RNG.

Saw a youtuber who completed a bunch of relic weapons but never got it to drop so she just bought it off the market board, though she’s a veteran player who crafts a lot so that amount was a drop in the bucket for her; while I’m a relatively new player so it took basically all I had and then some(even worse considering the market board fee. Don’t know what that’s for).

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Originally Posted by Yertrune3

(even worse considering the market board fee. Don’t know what that’s for).

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The market board fee is essentially just a Gil sink. Like the repair fee and teleport fee it is meant to take Gil out of the game to slow down the inflation.

I'd be willing to bet we see an increase in drop rates with 5.5 in a few weeks.

Did they ever increase the drop rates on the one out of Eureka? HoH/PoTD?

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Originally Posted by hobostew

Did they ever increase the drop rates on the one out of Eureka? HoH/PoTD?

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They did on the Shiver emote and I'm sure others as well. Whether or not they're ready to do that with 5.5 remains to be seen.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

They did on the Shiver emote and I'm sure others as well. Whether or not they're ready to do that with 5.5 remains to be seen.

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I don't recall them ever increasing the drop rate on the Shiver emote. They certainly didn't on PotD/HoH stuff, though those were never too absurd to begin with.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

I don't recall them ever increasing the drop rate on the Shiver emote. They certainly didn't on PotD/HoH stuff, though those were never too absurd to begin with.

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It was changed in patch 4.57

https://i.imgur.com/9DK8Arf.png

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Originally Posted by Xion136

This. SO much this. Delubrum gives you fragments I can't unlock because I don't really want to DO Bozja. But I have to and farm all these resources to make my runs faster, and since RNG is RNG I could go through five runs and not get a single drop. Why bother farming if nothing I do is actually pushing me closer and is actively hurting my attempts to brute-force the RNG?

It's so stupid, not to mention how the Lost Finds Holster works with you losing actions you swap out. And I don't get gil for ANY delubrum run, Silver coins ONLY go towards Law's Order gear and frankly does nothing for me - I have better gear already, or will be getting it and it as a stopgap is useless.

So I have these coins I don't need...I don't get gil for delubrum runs, I just get doom and despair.

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I agree. I've ran out of essences for all of my jobs after around 150 DR, and I don't feel like farming them any more, let alone buying them (rng gives me most of the time useless lost actions instead of essences when I appraise a fragment anyway). There is no way to enjoy the feeling of being a hamster running a wheel for ever and for nothing. And that is the feeling I get by now.

I bought most of the kupo of fortune drops from the marketboard and just made the gil back because if I can get it a different way that is more convenient then I don't see the point of farming it at all, it's really not worth the trouble.

I think this hair style should drop more often. It was 14 million gil on the market board last time I checked. Or make it so you can buy the hair style, mount and barding with silver or gold coins. I don't think a hairstyle should be this hard to get. I don't even know what it would look like on a girl Au Ra which I play since I can't get it.

I'm getting closer to finish upgrading all relic weapons and still yet to see any hair drops. (220/255)
Honestly at this point I'm no longer 'hoping' to get it anymore lol.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I'm getting closer to finish upgrading all relic weapons and still yet to see any hair drops. (220/255)
Honestly at this point I'm no longer 'hoping' to get it anymore lol.

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I still don't know how you have the willpower to get through that.

By the way, I still haven't played the game besides logging in since last time! That grind was complete torture, and I don't even think I did half that many clears!

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I'm getting closer to finish upgrading all relic weapons and still yet to see any hair drops. (220/255)
Honestly at this point I'm no longer 'hoping' to get it anymore lol.

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How do you even manage that? I've completed 5 and am like 5/15 in on the 6th and more or less fizzled out. Grind wise it's not the worst we've had to deal with but due to the limited ways to progress it has been the most tedious of any weapon to date. Even the old ARR books at least had some variety.

I got it to drop on my 20th run. Sold it for 9.5g

Its fairly cheap considering its under 10 mill. If you want it then just buy it.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I'm getting closer to finish upgrading all relic weapons and still yet to see any hair drops. (220/255)
Honestly at this point I'm no longer 'hoping' to get it anymore lol.

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I feel you. I am way over 150 runs myself and i still haven't seen the hair. By now i just run DR sporadically, when I don't have anything better to do and I am in the mood. I don't hope for the hair anymore. Maybe one day we'll be able to buy it with coins, who knows.

I feel like the rare drop rate is a bit punishing considering the content is already locked behind a level 80 relic-related raid. The baked-in rarity of the drops is going to crash headfirst into the fact that people will (are) overwhelmingly lose interest in the content once we have other things to do.

To the best of my knowledge, they haven't nerfed the drop rates of mounts in any of the Eurekan content. I could be wrong about that, though.

My point is, I think it'd be neat if they let you purchase the mount/hair/barding with gold coins, even if it's an obscene amount of gold coins. Much like EX runs have totems to purchase things, it'd be nice to have something similar for DR.

My FC's WHM got the hair style on his 2nd run... the rest of the FC is looking at 50 runs if you add them all together and no one else has seen it

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I still don't know how you have the willpower to get through that.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

How do you even manage that? I've completed 5 and am like 5/15 in on the 6th and more or less fizzled out. Grind wise it's not the worst we've had to deal with but due to the limited ways to progress it has been the most tedious of any weapon to date. Even the old ARR books at least had some variety.

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Several reason. I have mentioned them somewhere before but I’ll just list them out again:
#1 I have high hopes for ShB Relics, aesthetically.
#2 BSF and related contents doesn’t seem to be futureproof, at least at this point.
#3 You mentioned ARR Relic, so I’ll tell you my perspective: ”I have survived dealing with half of the ARR Relics. They are the worst imho, so I’m sure I can deal with ShB relics just fine, right?”
#4 I actually enjoyed contents like this because I get to do something that’s not in our traditional “trifecta-roles” setup.

Hair is just a bonus, it’s not something that I’d actively try to farm for—especially once I finish upgrading everything. I am however, still genuinely surprised how I still yet to see the hairstyle drop, at all. But I'll just go with what I said before: RNG's gonna be RNG.

Now it would be better if I can have some other way to spend these silver coins because exchanging them for gold coins isn’t gonna cut out in case SE decides to add something that’s only trade-able with silvers in future.

Yooo.. did anyone ever find out the original question!?? I.e the ACTUAL drop rate??
Cause I just netted 2 of these boys in 13 runs

Less than 2-3hrs inbetween drops for me. After the first one I kept thinking I want another, BOOM. Nicely nicely

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Originally Posted by Patcm

Yooo.. did anyone ever find out the original question!?? I.e the ACTUAL drop rate??
Cause I just netted 2 of these boys in 13 runs

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RNG is RNG, some people win big, others don't.

I know, I wanna know an actual stat, like 0.5% or some. I wanna know if this is like the Zodiac Escutcheon level rarity. Basically I wanna know if this is the best luck I ever had in any FF game xD

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Originally Posted by Patcm

I know, I wanna know an actual stat, like 0.5% or some. I wanna know if this is like the Zodiac Escutcheon level rarity. Basically I wanna know if this is the best luck I ever had in any FF game xD

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To give you some illustration, I’ll compare my FCmate’s & my own luck. We both have cleared DRn 255 times but this is the difference in our blessed/cursed RNG.

My FCmate: I don’t remember exact numbers, but roughly 7 hairstyles, 1 barding (in their 253rd run), & 9 mounts.
Me: 3 mounts. That’s it, nothing else.

Again, both of us cleared them 255 times (and slightly more since there’s weekly quest), yet look at the disparity. Nothing but RNGesus at play, there’s simply no other explanation, like the others have mentioned countless times here & other scattered threads.

Luckily my FCmate gave me one of their hairstyle loot.

Be interesting to see if they increase the drop rate for 5.55. I'm also hoping they increase the memory drop rate in zone and for fates in world. I've run a ton of DR's on my main and many alts and I've been lucky I suppose to have seen 3 hairstyles and 2 mounts.

Where’s my stat!

Uh, my full reply didn’t send. I’ll try again later

I love reading the Forum people here are such entitled little cry babies

I've run over 100 times - entirely lost count, I do Delubrum for fun as much as I do it for the drops - haven't seen a single one.

A friend got the hairstyle their first try and I'm irrationally jealous.