You need to give up on XI-2

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Originally Posted by Alerith

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/23...read-again.jpg

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Oh look it's some dude posting a pic that says "It's this thread again" again... how original. i never seen this before..
Grats on your originality.


And about the thread:

NOOOOO BRING BACK THIS FROM FFXI!!!
BRING BACK THAT FROM FFXI!!!
MAKE FFXIV INTO FFXI C'MON WHAT ARE U WAITING FOOOORR!!!

I just believe peeps that say stuff like "bring me back my (insert FFXI feature here)"
Are just posing a lil' trying to show how much of a Final Fantasy veteran they are :) (imo as always)

FFXI is dead... deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Yves

Well, aside from the standard features that be present in any MMO (UI, etc.)

1. Familiar zones (via 2.0 concept maps)
2. In-game housing
3. Hamlet (all descriptions are similar to Campaign/Besieged)
4. Traditional primals
5. Release of AH
6. Summoning
7. Taming and pet development
8. Introduction of legacy items
9. Coliseum
10. Alliances

This is excluding mail systems. And this is solely via the roadmap documents. Aside from roadmap items, there are additions that have been confirmed via dev posts such as seek flags and world NMs.

Wait! No way - ALL OF THESE ARE COMMON STAPLES IN ALL MMOS?! The only difference is that it is branded in FF fashion. Why people can't see this is beyond me.

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Still not sure what about the zones is from XI. As from everything else you mentioned it is features from every mmo out there. What you think XI invented the wheel? Ever heard of everquest?

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Still not sure what about the zones is from XI. As from everything else you mentioned it is features from every mmo out there. What you think XI invented the wheel? Ever heard of everquest?

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Ok, now you're just trolling. I covered that in my post. You sir, are an oxygen thief.

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Originally Posted by Yves

On the contrary, 2.0 sounds a lot like they took the good components of XI and brought them back while implementing good ideas from other games with some original content (probably not original, tbh.)

I feel bad that people are so divided.

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I agree with this, it sounds like a perfect mix of XI and WoW (clone) to me, sure its bound to upset some purists but time to move on.

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Originally Posted by Yves

Ok, now you're just trolling. I covered that in my post. You sir, are an oxygen thief.

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You're just now figuring that out?

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Originally Posted by Elexia

You're just now figuring that out?

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If it was possible to upperdecker a thread I would do it to this one...

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Yes it has similar races and world but that it is because the same people did it and IMO they just lacked imagination.

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The main aim of the similarity between FF11 and FF14 was to add an air of familiarity to the game. They did it to make it easier for players of XI to transition to XIV (is what I remember them saying years ago, but I can no longer find the exact announcement that was made by the developer).

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

FFXI is dead... deal with it.

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FFXI has 200,000 subscriptions (closer to 190,000) still.

FFXIV has <20,000.

FFXI is not dead, my good sir.

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Originally Posted by Nakiami

The main aim of the similarity between FF11 and FF14 was to add an air of familiarity to the game. They did it to make it easier for players of XI to transition to XIV (is what I remember them saying years ago, but I can no longer find the exact announcement that was made by the developer).

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This was the exact reasoning, they wanted those who played FFXI to have the ability to recreate their XI avatar or something new, this is why:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3260/comparison3.jpg

Quick comparison from 2010. (too lazy to find the full one)

This isn't because the companies are the same, but if you bring logic into this, mr onidemon here would have to explain why orcs in one game by one company looks like orcs in another game by another company...but I thought the races were the same because it was a game by the same company? Poo.

@FFXI is dead.

As much as I'd want XI to end (so they can put absolute full focus on XIV and bring over good content concepts) it's not anywhere near as dead. If FFXI is dead what is FFXIV?

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Originally Posted by ThePatriarch

FFXI has 200,000 subscriptions (closer to 190,000) still.

FFXIV has <20,000.

FFXI is not dead, my good sir.

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It used to be 500k, its getting there slowly and tbh most developers/publishing companies would not be happy with 200k.

But to be fair the game is 10 years old so its to be expected, it can't survive for ever.

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If FFXI is dead what is FFXIV?

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It's going through a reincarnation. (come back soon !)

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Originally Posted by Jinko

It used to be 500k, its getting there slowly and tbh most developers/publishing companies would not be happy with 200k.

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Oh I agree, it is most certainly in a decline. But it is far from dead.

With almost 200,000 subscriptions (we will use 190,000, x $12.95 from each sub), the game is bringing in close to $2,500,000 each month. (this is not including people with multiple contend ID's, etc etc)

Yes, it is going to keep declining over time, regardless of all the latest stuff they put in to keep people playing.

But the game is both literally, and figuratively 10x more alive in FFXIV is right now, after being out 10 years. FFXIV will have to pull a hat trick, to even get to the state that XI is right now.