Why does everyone want Chemist as a new job?

I can see it being a fun and unique idea in FFXIV. Considering our job gauges and all, I would love a concept revolving around combining different effects of skills into one super heal ability. Taking heals over time + burst healing and combining them into a new ability, a dot + damage or a dot + aoe, just something where maybe you can weave and stockpile good abilities. Maybe the gauge is a stock of your kept mixtures or changes color based on your current concoction. Honestly, I'll be glad to see a healer that isn't just more sparkly lights...

I suspect Chemist comes up in new potential job speculation because it has an established identity as a healer within the series, and many people rightfully feel like we are due for another healer in the next announcement for an additional job (or jobs) in XIV. Granted, I think they'll have to take some liberties with the job concept to fit into the mechanics/ identity/ "balance" of the healing role in XIV, but it's already strongly associated with healing in the series so it has a leg-up on other predictions.

I'm pretty sure we have most of Final Fantasy's signature/ commonly represented jobs in XIV, a few others (namely pet ones) seem unlikely given the dev's adversity to balancing them and BLU's fate. So now a lot second and third-string jobs get nominated for potential XIV picks.

Oh, and I always considered "we already have Alchemist as a DoH" to be a weak argument to hand-wave the possibility for a Chemist. First of all, most people in-game would distinguish the two by their different acronyms (ALC and CHM, the likeliest one, are not even similar). Secondly, I don't foresee anyone mistaking someone for talking about Alchemist (I assume in voice-chat?) when the discussion is on raids/PvE content, combat-jobs, etc. and in-context would clearly be referring to Chemist. And finally, they can always use a different name for the Chemist job in XIV- there's a handful of synonyms. Chemist is just the most universally identifiable version.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

So any apothecary/chemist lore...would be entirely separate from this kid we talked to. I think the point of the kid wasn't to foreshadow a job so much as to just show someone else inspired to be a hero in their own way, tying into things thematically with the patch.

Spoiler for 5.3 msq.

Basically, Elidibus draws his strength from people inspired to be heroes in order to become the 'Warrior of Light' and this is providing an example of someone like that at the start of the 5.3 msq. That makes more sense to me for why it's there as opposed to them setting up a job that will probably have its roots back on the Source rather than Norvrandt if added.

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She also specifically says that she wants to be a Warrior of Light that fights with potions. She could have easily said that she wants to be an Apothecary like the woman she met and just heal the sick, but she was very specific in saying both Warrior of Light AND Apothecary, connecting the two together.

She also says the Apothecary would help people even if it was dangerous, implying that she had some combat experience at least so she was no regular doctor.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

The mixing mechanics would be tough for a healer.
Imagine all your powerful insta heals are locked bhind it and a tank buster is about to rekt your tank.
Class would almost never been a main healer that's for sure.
Having to do a mudra mechanic as a healer would be too much pressure when you're the person that needs to keep the party alive.

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It'd be fine if you were able to mix and store what you mixed for later with charges. You'd then just take advantage of lulls in damage to 'restock' your big heals.

Probably because chemist was teased...

I just want to bash someone in the head with glassware and scream "YOU ARE HEALED!" as they have to pick broken shards out of their skin.

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Originally Posted by GucciSan

She also specifically says that she wants to be a Warrior of Light that fights with potions. She could have easily said that she wants to be an Apothecary like the woman she met and just heal the sick, but she was very specific in saying both Warrior of Light AND Apothecary, connecting the two together.

She also says the Apothecary would help people even if it was dangerous, implying that she had some combat experience at least so she was no regular doctor.

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Possibly, but again any new job is likely to have its lore in the Source and not the First, so it would be weird to ease a new job in Norvrandt instead of on the Source where those characters could be used going forward. New expansion jobs tend to be tied to the locations we visit in that expansion. (Even Ninja, while we weren't going to Doma yet, had ties to the doman refugees in the msq at the time.) The exception to this was with SHB because they probably didn't want to deal with the complications of tying the job stories to the First, so instead we just got new jobs tied to places we're likely to go to in the future.

And unlike Alisae and Red Mage, it's unlikely that an actual story connection could be drawn between these characters and whoever the job npcs would be, because it seems like the WOL is still going to be the only one who can traverse worlds at will.

I'm not saying chemist won't happen, but to assume that this line is specifically teasing it just feels like a bit of a stretch for me. And if it 'is' teasing a new job, a weird way to go about it because of the divide between the source and the first.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Possibly, but again any new job is likely to have its lore in the Source and not the First, so it would be weird to ease a new job in Norvrandt instead of on the Source where those characters could be used going forward. New expansion jobs tend to be tied to the locations we visit in that expansion. (Even Ninja, while we weren't going to Doma yet, had ties to the doman refugees in the msq at the time.) The exception to this was with SHB because they probably didn't want to deal with the complications of tying the job stories to the First, so instead we just got new jobs tied to places we're likely to go to in the future.

And unlike Alisae and Red Mage, it's unlikely that an actual story connection could be drawn between these characters and whoever the job npcs would be, because it seems like the WOL is still going to be the only one who can traverse worlds at will.

I'm not saying chemist won't happen, but to assume that this line is specifically teasing it just feels like a bit of a stretch for me. And if it 'is' teasing a new job, a weird way to go about it because of the divide between the source and the first.

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It’s also not the only tie this game has to chemists though. Potions and potion makers do exist on the source. There is an island south of Thavnair rum by a family that doesn’t allow outsiders on it, as well as Garlean healer NPCs they use abilities with chemist like names. We also have Bajsaljen in a Bozja who is a defected Garlean medic.

While we don’t see Apothecary running around we have plenty of things with the chemist flair.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Possibly, but again any new job is likely to have its lore in the Source and not the First, so it would be weird to ease a new job in Norvrandt instead of on the Source where those characters could be used going forward. New expansion jobs tend to be tied to the locations we visit in that expansion. (Even Ninja, while we weren't going to Doma yet, had ties to the doman refugees in the msq at the time.) The exception to this was with SHB because they probably didn't want to deal with the complications of tying the job stories to the First, so instead we just got new jobs tied to places we're likely to go to in the future.

And unlike Alisae and Red Mage, it's unlikely that an actual story connection could be drawn between these characters and whoever the job npcs would be, because it seems like the WOL is still going to be the only one who can traverse worlds at will.

I'm not saying chemist won't happen, but to assume that this line is specifically teasing it just feels like a bit of a stretch for me. And if it 'is' teasing a new job, a weird way to go about it because of the divide between the source and the first.

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At the same time Shadowbringers has also shown that Jobs don't have to be tied to the expansion location. And it's very unlikely that Riqi-Tio herself will have anything to do with a Chemist questline as a whole; there's nothing to really say that NPCs with "hints" need to be involved with them in the future. It feels like she only exists to tease us with a potential Job.

And it's not even one line; there are several that raise red flags at least for me:

Chessamile: If we all work hard, the day will come when our chirurgeons may set forth to aid folk in every corner of the realm...As we strive towards that day, I hope that we can rely upon you as well. Though I must warn you, ours is not an easy path. No, you must work very, very hard.

Riqi-Tio: She was so brave - the apothecary, I mean. She went around taking care of people, even when it was dangerous. And i decided I wanted to help people, just like her.

Alphinaud: But it will not be done in a day. Such lofty goals are reached through hard work and persistence, through countless little acts of heroism - like delivering the graps to Chessamile.

This is my own interpretation, but the entire questline feels easy to read as the team speaking directly to the playerbase. They know that we're desperate for a new healer, and this seems like one elaborate way to reassure us that one is coming, and giving us not so subtle hints what it might be. It also feels like they're telling use to be patient until 6.0, which falls in line with the hard work both NPCs described. I can't think of any other time a job hint felt this on the nose, along with potentially naming what it is.

With the black rose and weapon plots tied to Garlemald, we've had our fair share of Garlean tech being showcased in game.
If the next expansion takes us to Garlemald to deal with the pesky edgy boi and his fan, it would make sense for us to get Chemist as a Job.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

It'd be fine if you were able to mix and store what you mixed for later with charges. You'd then just take advantage of lulls in damage to 'restock' your big heals.

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Judging from the original draw/stock/royal road system for AST, I have a feeling that's what they were going for with Chemist before they gave up on it before HW.

If that they let me heal my teammates with a rifle or and healing potions/grenades like Ana from Overwatch, I'd be be so happy.

Plus it's like the only Final Fantasy job left that would fit a healer job rather the one ones where they would get butchered into the role like Geomancer. Time Mage is would feel too similar to AST for my taste.

Oracle...Idk I haven't seen enough of it to decide it's a good fit.

On the one hand we haven't gotten that highly coveted XIV-original job yet (Assuming GNB and AST which were both based off a character or two each, doesn't count), so there is a chance that the devs would make a new healer whole cloth.

OTOH that we're 3 expansions without said job already implies the devs perchance to borrow from older games instead,making Chemist more likely.

BTW why do people want/expect a completely original job anyway?

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

On the one hand we haven't gotten that highly coveted XIV-original job yet, so there is a chance that the devs would make a new healer whole cloth.

OTOH that we're 3 expansions without said job already implies the devs perchance to borrow from older games instead,making Chemist more likely.

BTW why do people want/expect a completely original job anyway?

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Wasn't gunbreaker supposed to be that? I guess a bit like AST?

Or no? If no then I'm actually suddenly more excited because that's interesting lol, but I was under the assumption GNB was the original job. Not a negative comment towards GNB, just kind of perked ears if they're still working on some truely 100% original concept, which to be honest sounds quite hard since they've so much you could reference it to, but yee.. :D.

Original is interesting since it doesn't have a strict form and so they have more freedom, of course if they don't take advantage of that then it could be not that exciting that it's original, but if they do then it can be quite interesting to watch something original grow.

Like with White Mage or Black Mage you already have a strong idea how it'll grow, that doesn't mean it's not interesting just that you know what it's peak looks like for the most part and that they've so much to reference (and fans want quite a bit of references) that you can even semi-guess any new things to happen.

So for me an original FF might just be Vincent and Tera Bradford transformation concept turned into a job, but someone might just say that's not original because it references something. So again, was GNB not the original? Because I thought it was :3...

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

I edited my post to refer to those jobs as I think they might be discounted as while they aren't based on a Job per se they still take a lot influence form prior entire (8 for GNB, Tactics for AST)

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Oh okay, gotcha :)

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Wasn't gunbreaker supposed to be that? I guess a bit like AST?

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I edited my post to refer to those jobs as I think they might be discounted as while they aren't based on a Job per se they still take a lot influence form prior entire (8 for GNB, Tactics for AST)

I was always under the impression that Yoshi said “we would like to” make an original 14 class not “yes, there is one coming.”

And then we got GNB, which I would say is pretty original “class” wise. Of course the fact that Squall also used a gunblade, not so much him as a class.

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

I was always under the impression that Yoshi said “we would like to” make an original 14 class not “yes, there is one coming.”

And then we got GNB, which I would say is pretty original “class” wise. Of course the fact that Squall also used a gunblade, not so much him as a class.

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I'm also certain that Seifer was also inspiration for some elements

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Originally Posted by GucciSan

I can't think of any other time a job hint felt this on the nose, along with potentially naming what it is.

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This, although I will qualify it by adding "in game". There have been several out of game teasers that were quite on the nose. I'm not particularly interested in a chemist/apothecary job aside from the fun of having another job to get to cap, and even I immediately got the impression that this was a nudge and a wink to a future job. It just feels about as blatant as it could possibly be without outright telling us, like when Yoshi wore the Scarlet Witch t-shirt at an event teasing Red Mage.

I dunno about the “I can’t think of any other time a job hint has felt so on the nose.”

I mean we have the founder of a nation being a Geomancer, a dungeon dedicated to them, you fight the deity they worship in a trial, there is a quest chain involving them and as of 5.0 there is a school in Kugane teaching people how to be a Geomancer.

This isn’t even involving the mounts, housing items and side quest text in Yanxia.

I can’t see the game implementing this much about a Named Final Fantasy staple class just to..... have it mentioned. It would be the first time in game for sure.

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

I dunno about the “I can’t think of any other time a job hint has felt so on the nose.”

I mean we have the founder of a nation being a Geomancer, a dungeon dedicated to them, you fight the deity they worship in a trial, there is a quest chain involving them and as of 5.0 there is a school in Kugane teaching people how to be a Geomancer.

This isn’t even involving the mounts, housing items and side quest text in Yanxia.

I can’t see the game implementing this much about a Named Final Fantasy staple class just to..... have it mentioned. It would be the first time in game for sure.

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Nothing about the Geomancer parts of SB felt like them saying that it would soon exist. They were positioned as just being another type of Astrologian for one. If anything it was them just saying "Hey guys! Astrologian is what we gave you for FFXIV's version of a Geomancer and we just went with a time mage theme instead of the land and elements theme because that wouldn't have made sense in Ishgard but here's some Geomancer lore for those of you who wanted Geomancer."

With the apothecary section of 5.3, the storyline is that a bunch of people want to become warriors of light and all the Scions gather around and discuss the merits of one such person wanting to do so by becoming a Chemist. It just feels so out of the blue and "hey guys! warriors of light can be chemists too!"

Of course it's just speculation, but something about this one feels right. I do agree that the Necromancer and Berserker rumours from the new dungeon are a lot flimsier, although the Necromancer one is fun enough to get behind just on that merit alone. Berserker speculation especially is incredibly weak since to me it's super obvious it's just a warrior.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Nothing about the Geomancer parts of SB felt like them saying that it would soon exist. They were positioned as just being another type of Astrologian for one. If anything it was them just saying "Hey guys! Astrologian is what we gave you for FFXIV's version of a Geomancer and we just went with a time mage theme instead of the land and elements theme because that wouldn't have made sense in Ishgard but here's some Geomancer lore for those of you who wanted Geomancer."

With the apothecary section of 5.3, the storyline is that a bunch of people want to become warriors of light and all the Scions gather around and discuss the merits of one such person wanting to do so by becoming a Chemist. It just feels so out of the blue and "hey guys! warriors of light can be chemists too!"

Of course it's just speculation, but something about this one feels right. I do agree that the Necromancer and Berserker rumours from the new dungeon are a lot flimsier, although the Necromancer one is fun enough to get behind just on that merit alone. Berserker speculation especially is incredibly weak since to me it's super obvious it's just a warrior.

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They really weren't positioned as another kind of Astrologian, they were shown to have distinctly different types of magic and divination. They call them foils of each other, Geomancy using the earth and its songs, while Astro uses the stars and constellations. If they'd been the same there wouldn't be a point in talking about using the schools in conjunction or needing Ast's healing magic to repair the barriers. Disregarding the fact that Ganen conquered a nation with Geomancy or that Doman Geomancers pulled Garlean Airships out of the sky. Nothing about it really says I'm asian Astro outside they were featured in those questlines and both use a form of divination like their real world counter parts.

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

I dunno about the “I can’t think of any other time a job hint has felt so on the nose.”

I mean we have the founder of a nation being a Geomancer, a dungeon dedicated to them, you fight the deity they worship in a trial, there is a quest chain involving them and as of 5.0 there is a school in Kugane teaching people how to be a Geomancer.

This isn’t even involving the mounts, housing items and side quest text in Yanxia.

I can’t see the game implementing this much about a Named Final Fantasy staple class just to..... have it mentioned. It would be the first time in game for sure.

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While there's a lot of Geo lore in game right now, most of it is found in sidequests; there's no guarantee that every player would have seen those, so that's something the team would have to take into account if they were to tease the playerbase.

If there's any place where they'd want to drop future Job hints, it'd be in the MSQ because players can't avoid it, which is where Riki-Tio's quest happens to be.

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Originally Posted by GucciSan

While there's a lot of Geo lore in game right now, most of it is found in sidequests; there's no guarantee that every player would have seen those, so that's something the team would have to take into account if they were to tease the playerbase.

If there's any place where they'd want to drop future Job hints, it'd be in the MSQ because players can't avoid it, which is where Riki-Tio's quest happens to be.

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I feel like you would really have to go out of your way to never see the Geomancer side content in the game.

And while you do have a point about the MSQ, I still feel it would be odd to have such a staple mentioned and put in for 3 years to have it be nothing.

Honestly I don't want it. Or at least not the idea people seem to keep pushing for. I do think there are some ways they could do a Chemist-adjacent design that would be good but it's not the ones where it's X-2 aesthetically.

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Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia

Honestly I don't want it. Or at least not the idea people seem to keep pushing for. I do think there are some ways they could do a Chemist-adjacent design that would be good but it's not the ones where it's X-2 aesthetically.

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I really hope we get it but in a way that surprises us honestly. All the new jobs have been/felt great so I’m sure whatever they do end up doing will be good.

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

I really hope we get it but in a way that surprises us honestly. All the new jobs have been/felt great so I’m sure whatever they do end up doing will be good.

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I mean, if we get it I think it will be surprising for a great many people with what the expectations seem to be. But I don't think that's the same as people liking it as much unfortunately.

I'd only be interested in Chemist if it took a tech-oriented turn. My only frame of reference is Final Fantasy Tactics, and if that's what we get, well... it definitely won't make me a healer main again, that's for sure.

I want a new healer and Chemists are flashy and cool.

Let me mix and throw some potions, dammit.

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

I feel like you would really have to go out of your way to never see the Geomancer side content in the game.

And while you do have a point about the MSQ, I still feel it would be odd to have such a staple mentioned and put in for 3 years to have it be nothing.

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Not necessarily; The AST quests give a great deal of GEO lore themselves but not everyone plays AST or even healers.

I don't mean to be dismissive of GEO altogether, just that between the two Chemist seems like biggest clue to a potential Job despite all the lore GEO has now because it was featured in the MSQ where GEO really isn't. IIRC the only MSQ related instance that every player would have experienced GEO related content is Swallow's Compass and while you can get an idea of what Geomancy is in the world of XIV it only goes so far because they're only dungeon enemies; it's no more than the enemies of the 5.3 dungeon providing lore on their own takes of the current Jobs.
The team have to accommodate for the lowest common denominator by assuming people haven't done side content and excluding it from their clues, so the GEO quests that expand the lore feel more like world building, where the Riki-Tio segment could be summed up as:

"I wanna be a Warrior of Light! One that fights with potions!"

"A Warrior of Light that fights with potions? That sounds crazy, but it just might work! And we work hard enough one day there will be potion wielding WoL everywhere!"

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Originally Posted by Ashennae

First of all, it's too similar to the DOH Alchemist with the whole potion-crafting theme.

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Never stopped them from adding dancer despite that being every miqo'te's job since 1.0

On a more serious note, I'd like the aesthetics. Throwing potions sounds gnarly.

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Originally Posted by GucciSan

I don't mean to be dismissive of GEO altogether,

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Yeah, this. Time has shown that Geomancer wasn't a teaser, just something they included for lore/story. That doesn't mean it won't ever become a job, but it wasn't a teaser for it and didn't feel like it at the time. Even all the Geo posts at the time were requesting it not talking about how it was a teaser for it, and it wasn't really on anyone's radar before it appeared in game aside from the occasional "what jobs would you like to see" thread.

Time will tell if 5.3 MSQ was a teaser for Chemist or not, but it definitely feels different than Geo. The talk about Chemist requests has been huge on the forums long before 5.3 dropped, and the way it was presented in the story was with a wink and a nod. Whether that wink and nod was a teaser for it being a 6.0 job or if was just a mild tongue in cheek jest at all the attention Chemist was getting on forums we don't know, but I'm inclined to think they wouldn't do the latter just on its own without having something to come out of it.

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Originally Posted by GucciSan

Not necessarily; The AST quests give a great deal of GEO lore themselves but not everyone plays AST or even healers.

I don't mean to be dismissive of GEO altogether, just that between the two Chemist seems like biggest clue to a potential Job despite all the lore GEO has now because it was featured in the MSQ where GEO really isn't. IIRC the only MSQ related instance that every player would have experienced GEO related content is Swallow's Compass and while you can get an idea of what Geomancy is in the world of XIV it only goes so far because they're only dungeon enemies; it's no more than the enemies of the 5.3 dungeon providing lore on their own takes of the current Jobs.
The team has to accommodate for the lowest common denominator by assuming people haven't done side content and excluding it from their clues, so the GEO quests that expand the lore feel more like world building, where the Riki-Tio segment could be summed up as:

"I wanna be a Warrior of Light! One that fights with potions!"

"A Warrior of Light that fights with potions? That sounds crazy, but it just might work! And we work hard enough one day there will be potion wielding WoL everywhere!"

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I definitely see where you are coming from on that one. It was a very strong start to 5.3 with that hint for a potion healer. It’s definitely why it’s at the forefront of my guess for healers, while Geomancer is my caster bet.

Though I definitely see the sheer amount of Geomancer we have in game, as more than just “world building.” That’s a lot of time and effort from The dev team for just some flavor text.

With white mage losing it’s aero/stone this expansion, with it’s journey into glare dia, are we just fully expecting to not have a continuation of Aero and Stone from now on until the game ends? We’re not talking Ver-, or ninjutsu or anything, just straight up Aero and Stone. Someone’s gotta pick those up.

Did some digging also and weren’t SAM and RDM originally hinted at in The Rising event before they even made an appearance in the MSQ?

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Yeah, this. Time has shown that Geomancer wasn't a teaser, just something they included for lore/story. That doesn't mean it won't ever become a job, but it wasn't a teaser for it and didn't feel like it at the time. Even all the Geo posts at the time were requesting it not talking about how it was a teaser for it, and it wasn't really on anyone's radar before it appeared in game aside from the occasional "what jobs would you like to see" thread.

Time will tell if 5.3 MSQ was a teaser for Chemist or not, but it definitely feels different than Geo. The talk about Chemist requests has been huge on the forums long before 5.3 dropped, and the way it was presented in the story was with a wink and a nod. Whether that wink and nod was a teaser for it being a 6.0 job or if was just a mild tongue in cheek jest at all the attention Chemist was getting on forums we don't know, but I'm inclined to think they wouldn't do the latter just on its own without having something to come out of it.

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It’s been on the radar for quite a bit of time though, just a bit in the background. Geomancer was datamined in 1.0 as a branch off of Conjurer, the opposite of white mage, when scholar/summoner was enroute.

And the hype restarted when Yoshi P said he had an eastern caster that was planned/made for Stormblood that never got released. It has definitely been a slow burn though.

Geomancer I feel has become Schrödinger's job, if it gets added we can be like "see all this lore wasn't for nothing" and if it doesn't there's still the potential for it to be released. There's plenty of Lore and even still Geomancer weapon models left from 1.0 in the game. It's sorta always been in the background for so long that it could come at any point, it just feels like a better time now since we could use a 4th caster to round out the roles.

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Originally Posted by BasicBlake

It’s been on the radar for quite a bit of time though, just a bit in the background. Geomancer was datamined in 1.0 as a branch off of Conjurer, the opposite of white mage, when scholar/summoner was enroute.

And the hype restarted when Yoshi P said he had an eastern caster that was planned/made for Stormblood that never got released. It has definitely been a slow burn though.

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Perhaps we'll get Healer CHM and DPS GEO next expansion. To please both sides.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Perhaps we'll get Healer CHM and DPS GEO next expansion. To please both sides.

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That's honestly what I am wondering, which makes more sense to me, but I admit I don't know offhand which DPS "Role" needs something more.

Let's see. 4 melee, 3 physical range, 3 magical. Physical range just got something, so...Yeah, could work.

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

That's honestly what I am wondering, which makes more sense to me, but I admit I don't know offhand which DPS "Role" needs something more.

Let's see. 4 melee, 3 physical range, 3 magical. Physical range just got something, so...Yeah, could work.

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If we get a 5th melee with 6.0 I will scream both internally and externally.

I agree with Ryu here with the Chemist Healer and Geo caster. This way no one’s toes get stepped on thematically. We get a 4th caster and we don’t get a second healer who focuses on wind/water/earth.

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Originally Posted by SeikishiYuuki

Geomancer I feel has become Schrödinger's job, if it gets added we can be like "see all this lore wasn't for nothing" and if it doesn't there's still the potential for it to be released. There's plenty of Lore and even still Geomancer weapon models left from 1.0 in the game. It's sorta always been in the background for so long that it could come at any point, it just feels like a better time now since we could use a 4th caster to round out the roles.

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Yep. We need another caster and Yoshi gave us his signature bigger expansion in between eastern themed jobs. If there was ever a time for Geomancer it would be 6.0. Samurai didn’t come with it’s planned HW because of ninja, they gave a bugger expansion, Samurai was released with 4.0, then 5.0 came out as a buffer, now the leylines have crossed.

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

That's honestly what I am wondering, which makes more sense to me, but I admit I don't know offhand which DPS "Role" needs something more.

Let's see. 4 melee, 3 physical range, 3 magical. Physical range just got something, so...Yeah, could work.

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Yea I think this works out really well, because then only Physical Ranged would be 3 with every other roll being balanced at 4 each and most of the unique big ticket FF jobs being represented

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Originally Posted by SeikishiYuuki

Geomancer I feel has become Schrödinger's job, if it gets added we can be like "see all this lore wasn't for nothing" and if it doesn't there's still the potential for it to be released. There's plenty of Lore and even still Geomancer weapon models left from 1.0 in the game. It's sorta always been in the background for so long that it could come at any point, it just feels like a better time now since we could use a 4th caster to round out the roles.

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Geomancer was never intended for 1.0. No weapons were made for it, it wasn't ever considered as a job. The only jobs/classes planned for 1.0 that we really know of were Arcanist and Musketeer.

1.0 Arcanist would've had a mechanical staff, but that isn't somehow a Geomancer weapon. It was still intended for Arcanist.