FF15 Event - Feedback (Event Spoilers)

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Originally Posted by Enla

For my part I'm more confused about when this little side quest takes place. It's Lv.50 capped and Cid is wearing his old ARR gear in all the cutscenes, so I expect it's before you go to Ishgard. But then if it's been that long you'd think all those gear pieces the grand companies have you collect would have furthered their understanding of magitek? So is it current to Stormblood and Cid just happened to have his old clothes laying around? Will we see the gear referenced later? Or is it better to just think of it as a fever dream that has no internal consistency with the game itself? Likely the last one frankly for the reasons Iscah mentioned due to the tonal dissonance with the current storyline. It's probably better not to think of it too much honestly. I doubt the people in charge of the event put very much thought in the story implications it might have, so why should we?

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The storyline of the event is a follows:
2.0 storyline
Lightning event if you did it
FFXV event

Anything within these events storyline are not canon to anything else in the game's lore you just have to stretch your sense of disbelief, I go with if i have done it as my character it's real to me alone ie i have the only Regalia in existence until an npc has it, never count pcs or everything is gone. (most immersion went out the window when they stopped trying to explain why everything can fly i'll give the turtle that they tried to explain it)

Enjoyed it.

But the thing I'm most happy with is none of the event items are locked away in the Mog store. I was really worried they were going to put some of it behind a cash wall. So very glad they avoided temptation.

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Originally Posted by Enla

For my part I'm more confused about when this little side quest takes place. It's Lv.50 capped and Cid is wearing his old ARR gear in all the cutscenes, so I expect it's before you go to Ishgard. But then if it's been that long you'd think all those gear pieces the grand companies have you collect would have furthered their understanding of magitek? So is it current to Stormblood and Cid just happened to have his old clothes laying around? Will we see the gear referenced later? Or is it better to just think of it as a fever dream that has no internal consistency with the game itself? Likely the last one frankly for the reasons Iscah mentioned due to the tonal dissonance with the current storyline. It's probably better not to think of it too much honestly. I doubt the people in charge of the event put very much thought in the story implications it might have, so why should we?

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The general rule is that the level of a quest indicates where it is set in the overall storyline, so yes - this is post-ARR, pre-Heavensward, and Cid's appearance reflects that. (Or if you look at it another way, this quest is available to players who actually are at that point in the story, so it can't reference later events.)

An additional rule with optional quests is that they're only considered to have happened if you've done them, but that doesn't change when they are set.

An example I've mentioned a few times here - the Binding Coil quests. They're Lv50 and undoubtably take place during post-ARR, with mentions of Alphinaud organising the Crystal Braves. But if you don't unlock the quest, then when you get to post-Heavensward and Alisaie joins the group, she says you last met at the memorial service very early in the game - indicating that the events of the Binding Coil haven't happened, because they haven't for your character. But if you then go back and unlock the quest later, it's still set in post-ARR and the Alphinaud and Alisaie in that storyline are still from that point in time, with no awareness of anything that happened after it.

The Lv30-50 DRG quests are another good example, because no matter where you're up to in the MSQ and whatever Estinien's current status is, he'll still be in the DRG quests as his pre-Heavensward self.



I'm not sure what "gear pieces" you're thinking of though, other than aetherial gear from dungeons - which doesn't have anything to do with magitek. (There's a guy outside the entrance to Sastasha that explains it - something about gear being imprinted with the aether of the previous owner, which is why the stats are variable.)

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The general rule is that the level of a quest indicates where it is set in the overall storyline, so yes - this is post-ARR, pre-Heavensward, and Cid's appearance reflects that. (Or if you look at it another way, this quest is available to players who actually are at that point in the story, so it can't reference later events.)

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I really wished I kept this in mind. I actually have separate glamours for my character based on whether the event taking place is in ARR, Heavensward, Post-Heavensward, and Stormblood, and I did most of this event in my Stormblood glamour before I stopped and thought about Cid's attire. >.<

The only song that I wished they would have included was the FF15 Chocobo song. It's so good. Oh well, I'm content.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'm not sure what "gear pieces" you're thinking of though, other than aetherial gear from dungeons - which doesn't have anything to do with magitek. (There's a guy outside the entrance to Sastasha that explains it - something about gear being imprinted with the aether of the previous owner, which is why the stats are variable.)

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Apologies this was a brain fart on my part, I meant to say magitek pieces (not in game so can't pull their exact name) but it was late and my brain was working on vapors. You collect pieces from the machines in the fate Noctis has you fight and deliver it to Ironwork employees in all the city states, which they stated earlier in the quest chain will be delivered to the grand companies for study. The pieces are turned in for orchestrion music from FFXV.

Edit: Still not awake sadly, lol, but I did mean to say thank you to everyone who clarified the timeline for me. I appreciate it! :D

Overall I enjoyed the event, but for a few glorious minutes my paladin had a movement skill. XD
Please square give paladin warp strike. (This is not a serious request.) XD

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Originally Posted by Enla

Apologies this was a brain fart on my part, I meant to say magitek pieces but it was late and my brain was working on vapors. You collect pieces from the machines in the fate Noctis has you fight and deliver it to Ironwork employees in all the city states, which they stated earlier in the quest chain will be delivered to the grand companies for study. The pieces are turned in for orchestrion music from FFXV.

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Even if we consider this story (or at least the "collecting otherworldly magitek") to be canon now, I wouldn't expect it to be referenced elsewhere. At best, the Ironworks have learned some new manufacturing techniques, but they don't need to specifically point that out later.

I think you're mistaken about it being delivered to the grand companies though - I checked the script. Cid asks you to salvage the magitek parts, and the other engineer says you can hande them in at Black Brush or to their "colleagues in the three city-states", who will pass them on to Cid. Those would be Ironworks employees, not the grand companies.



Also, it occurs to me that while Noctis managed to get home, we haven't dealt with whatever is sending foreign magitek and daemons into our dimension in the first place? It's established that Noctis may have been accidentally teleported here from a Niflheim base (the evil empire, I assume?) - maybe it was a once-off that warped a fixed number of MTs across, and we're just mopping them up, but we never really get any explanation for what's going on. Even if it does clearly belong in the "don't think too hard about it" basket.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Even if we consider this story (or at least the "collecting otherworldly magitek") to be canon now, I wouldn't expect it to be referenced elsewhere. At best, the Ironworks have learned some new manufacturing techniques, but they don't need to specifically point that out later.

I think you're mistaken about it being delivered to the grand companies though - I checked the script. Cid asks you to salvage the magitek parts, and the other engineer says you can hande them in at Black Brush or to their "colleagues in the three city-states", who will pass them on to Cid. Those would be Ironworks employees, not the grand companies.



Also, it occurs to me that while Noctis managed to get home, we haven't dealt with whatever is sending foreign magitek and daemons into our dimension in the first place? It's established that Noctis may have been accidentally teleported here from a Niflheim base (the evil empire, I assume?) - maybe it was a once-off that warped a fixed number of MTs across, and we're just mopping them up, but we never really get any explanation for what's going on. Even if it does clearly belong in the "don't think too hard about it" basket.

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Appreciate the correction!

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Also, it occurs to me that while Noctis managed to get home, we haven't dealt with whatever is sending foreign magitek and daemons into our dimension in the first place? It's established that Noctis may have been accidentally teleported here from a Niflheim base (the evil empire, I assume?) - maybe it was a once-off that warped a fixed number of MTs across, and we're just mopping them up, but we never really get any explanation for what's going on. Even if it does clearly belong in the "don't think too hard about it" basket.

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Personally, I assume that the cause of the MT's and daemons coming to our world was thanks to Noctis being here and being the "Anchor" that Garuda mentions.

Thus with him returning back to Eos, he's no longer creating the link between the two worlds and thus the MT's and daemons (Also, Garuda) are no longer able to come into our world.

An indirect resolution, but one that makes sense.

Though, a shame it was never answered how/why Noctis came to our world to begin with...

Also, a missed opportunity for a Back to the Future reference in how he could have ended up returning to Eos >.>

With this event done, I guess I'm now inclined to pop the game disc back into my ps4 and play the crossover there >.>

I'm just not sure how much of a challenge the garuda there will be with a lvl 120 Noctis and co...

I liked much of the FFXV event and I enjoyed having those chat options. The FATE was crowded and the mobs went down easily. The first instance was a bit more challenging, but it seemed a good preparation for the next instance.
That one did not go well.

After my 1st failure I found a youtube playthrough video, but I noticed no real differences between my actions and the ones in the video. Either this instance has much RNG involved or is affected by lag, or I'm missing what the other players did differently.
I recognized the AoE markers the first time. And after seeing the video managed to escape the gravity effect. No further progress.

Either I got defeated or Noctis. I have stopped retrying. I was nearly always late with that special action, and only later I understood that from a greater distance the action has more effect.

Finishing the event and getting the gear rewards would have been nice. But at least now I don't have to bother making 200K in gold saucer coin.

I will now crawl back to the parts of this game that I still find rewarding.

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Originally Posted by Opabinia

I liked much of the FFXV event and I enjoyed having those chat options. The FATE was crowded and the mobs went down easily. The first instance was a bit more challenging, but it seemed a good preparation for the next instance.
That one did not go well.

After my 1st failure I found a youtube playthrough video, but I noticed no real differences between my actions and the ones in the video. Either this instance has much RNG involved or is affected by lag, or I'm missing what the other players did differently.
I recognized the AoE markers the first time. And after seeing the video managed to escape the gravity effect. No further progress.

Either I got defeated or Noctis. I have stopped retrying. I was nearly always late with that special action, and only later I understood that from a greater distance the action has more effect.

Finishing the event and getting the gear rewards would have been nice. But at least now I don't have to bother making 200K in gold saucer coin.

I will now crawl back to the parts of this game that I still find rewarding.

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If noctis is dying...

Tanking 101.
Face the boss away from the party.



Any of the shrieks done noctis avoids.

He won't avoid the cone placed in front, or the ball aoes dropped on you.
You need to make sure those aren't landing on him.

You also need to be sure to stack with him when the line stack attack happens, as it's rather spicy.

Am I the only person who is sad we don't get a set of that rad Magitech Trooper armor? By far the coolest thing in the entire event.

I truly, truly loved this event and I never played FFXV, but it was easy for me to see which elements they implemented into FFXIV: The car, the MTs, names, 'photo-what's', its version of Garuda, the music, brief rundown of Noct's mission/goals and what I'm guessing is a 'tip of the iceberg' peek into what he can do. It brought a much needed, albeit brief amount of joy and a smile to my face.

It seems like forever since I've done an event/collaboration FATE, and didn't mind the brief wait time. I did it as NIN, which I haven't played in a while and it was good to know I was easily able to go back to my lv50 rotation without missing a beat.

The first instance I did as NIN as well, and noticed Noct warping around or something so showed off some Shikuchi when it came time to stand in columns ;p But what really caught my attention was the music, and I immediately hoped that orchestrions would be rewards for this event.

The cutscenes were really enjoyable. I decided to fish right next to him, and actually closed out that fishing hole xD. When he asked what took so long, my character's reaction was the same as mine *shrug*. "That was nothing buddy. Just ask me fellow Scions how long they've had to wait around for me."

Second instance was seriously fun. I looked around the arena, and noticed a stone thingy next to Garuda. I figured it was there to shield from an ultimate, but found it weird that it was targetable. After I read what Noct was saying, got hit by the AoE, and noticed the other pillar I was able to put 1,2,3 together. What I really wasn't expecting was the Active Time Event, and was really cool seeing both myself and Noct being the badasses we are. Well done SE!

I did the second instance as SCH and found it quite the cowinkydink that Noct was returning to Eos. It's so strange how the decisions I make in this game tend to line up like that. A happy ending for everyone, and some choice glamours and rewards to go along with it. These collab events are always so well done, and I hope there is one to FFIX someday.

I wish we had the chance to customize the Regalia though.

Definitely one of my fave events to date. Though I agree that FFXV had flaws but this event has perhaps put a good closure to the FFXV game.

Great memories came floating in.

I'm actually quite annoyed about the car being bought with 200,000 MGP.

I hate most of the Gold Saucer, and don't want to spend a good deal of time each week grinding the challenge log. The only things I can stomach are the mini cactpot and Triple Triad (and the latter I'm still not sure I actually do tolerate).

I did the necessary grinding up for the Adamantoise mount. Never again. Price should be much lower.

I really don't get why people have trouble with buying the car. It's not RNG or Mog Station. You can get 69000 MGP from fashion report (with squadron bonus) and 18500 MGP by winning 10 easy TT matches in the battlehall. Then do mini cactpot, jumbo cactpot and maybe a GATE and you easily have 100k MGP every week in less than 30 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

I really don't get why people have trouble with buying the car. It's not RNG or Mog Station. You can get 69000 MGP from fashion report (with squadron bonus) and 18500 MGP by winning 10 easy TT matches in the battlehall. Then do mini cactpot, jumbo cactpot and maybe a GATE and you easily have 100k MGP every week in less than 30 minutes.

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Should be happy it's not a Yokai type grind for it and I totally agree fashion report and items you listed make it pretty easy to earn MGP. I already have 100k MGP for an alt I created a little over a week ago and she is close to level 47 atm. Fashion report looks pretty easy this week too with a NPC vendor Florite Earrings for about 2500 gil and the Brand New Gloves from the new adventurer training. One only needs two items to get the bonus. I should have about 170 this weekend and have more than enough time before the event ends to finish leveling and earn the remaining mgp.

https://twitter.com/KaiyokoStar/stat...94747938062336

If you started in Ul'dah, you can also use the quest-reward "Voice of the Just" earrings and Ul'dahn ring to easily get 80+ points.