BLU and EX Primal Spells

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Originally Posted by ChaseNetwork

Rotation, huh...
The best rotation I have so far as a BLU that works against everything is
[Prep Sequence]
Toad Oil -> Bristle
[Opening]
Off-guard -> Song of Torment -> [Flying Sardine:Peculiar Light] -> [Flying Sardine:Glass Dance] -> [Flying Sardine:Mountain Buster] -> [Flying Sardine:Eruption] -> Glower*6 ->
[Flying Sardine:Off-guard] -> Song of Torment -> Glower*3 -> [Flying Sardine:Eruption] -> Glower*6 ->
[Flying Sardine:Off-guard] -> [Flying Sardine:Peculiar Light] -> Song of Torment -> Glower -> [Flying Sardine:Mountain Buster] -> [Flying Sardine:Eruption] -> Glower*6 ->
And so on.

For long periods where you can prepare defenses for raid-wides, such as Shiva's and Leviathan's Transitions, you can throw up Mighty Guard and Diamondback. Drop Mighty Guard after the hit is soaked.

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You shouldn't use Flying Sardine for OGCD weaving when Fire Angon and Sharpened Knife can do the same thing but with much better potency.

It's also always a DPS gain to use Bristle on Song of Torment.

They really should add Primal fights to the Masked Carnival for Blue Mage to solo. Even from a lore standpoint, they can find a way to justify it. Right from the start, we learn that Martyn has a pair of beastmen friends which can be used as setup for mutually beneficial dealing with other tribes. And let's not forget, the audience of the Masked Carnival aren't watching any ordinary Blue Mage. This is the Warrior of Light. Who wouldn't pay to see our famous warrior battle a Primal right before their very eyes? One summoned from a finite number of crystals for safety reasons, of course. That would make no difference to the audience. It's still bad for the environment you say? Nonsense! There's money to be made!

0/104 for ramuh

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Originally Posted by Doomtrigger1

0/104 for ramuh

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0/106 on Ifrit (Hard). I feel you.

Update: 1/108.
For anyone who cares about the rest:
Shiva: 21
Garuda: 9
Ramuh: 17
Titan: 47
Leviathan: 29

I finally have all 6. Help why did I do this.

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Originally Posted by Blueyes

They really should add Primal fights to the Masked Carnival for Blue Mage to solo. Even from a lore standpoint, they can find a way to justify it. Right from the start, we learn that Martyn has a pair of beastmen friends which can be used as setup for mutually beneficial dealing with other tribes. And let's not forget, the audience of the Masked Carnival aren't watching any ordinary Blue Mage. This is the Warrior of Light. Who wouldn't pay to see our famous warrior battle a Primal right before their very eyes? One summoned from a finite number of crystals for safety reasons, of course. That would make no difference to the audience. It's still bad for the environment you say? Nonsense! There's money to be made!

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They already show the final opponent of the carnivale using several primal skills in the cutscene beforehand, and yet he doesn't do them in the actual fight. There's no reason they just couldn't have him do a random primal skill towards the end of the fight and let us learn them that way as well. You'd still have to grind him to see him use all the spells, but at least it wouldn't be primal farming/carrying. And of course just increase the damn learn rate across the board, because no matter how you go about learning them they're insultingly low as at it stands now.

That moment when you've seen 6-8 primal mounts drop but now your BLU Mage skill.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

That moment when you've seen 6-8 primal mounts drop but now your BLU Mage skill.

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Farming garuda atm and i luckily got my skill fast but the other 4 not so much. However we have had numerous mounts drop including a nightmare in that time lol

I have been farming primal spells all weekend, and I am missing 2,Titan and Ramuh. I have run Ramuh about 70 times and Titan over 200 times, and no luck. I did Ifrit about 60, Leviathan about 45 or so, and got lucky with Garuda at 20ish and Shiva only 16 times.

Needless to say the drop rates are beyond ridiculous, especially considering this job can only be used in the Masked Carnivale and 2.X content that isn’t in the Duty Finder.

I am finding myself quite upset and highly disappointed, as I was looking forward to this job. Even the content made specifically for it is more frustrating than fun, and only gives allied seals, poetics and a small amount of Gil. Once players have achieved their titles they won’t any real purpose to do Masked Carnivale again.

TL;DR: BLU is a lot of work for little reward, and may be the biggest disappointment since 1.0, imo.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

That moment when you've seen 6-8 primal mounts drop but now your BLU Mage skill.

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Do you one better. On titan no spell learned... However I finally got a nightmare whistle... >.>

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Originally Posted by Freyt

If no one in your group is owning up to going lv70, then do it yourself. Show the group that someone among them is willing to carry, and you're likely to get one or two others to volunteer without even asking. It's possible you'll get an asshole that will ditch once they get it, but by far and large you're surrounded by decent people who will return the favor.

You're looking at spending an hour like this. Two hours or so if you're unlucky. Less than an hour with moderate luck. It's much better than spending the 6 hours you'd do with other plans.

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I've been the player taking the 70 role more than I've been the BLU at this point. I've had one person not bail on me once they get the spell.

On the note of time investment: 7 hours and counting into Garuda, and 2 into Ifrit, with nothing to show for it. Aside from my DRK mount I guess.

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Originally Posted by Jobe

I have been farming primal spells all weekend, and I am missing 2,Titan and Ramuh. I have run Ramuh about 70 times and Titan over 200 times, and no luck. I did Ifrit about 60, Leviathan about 45 or so, and got lucky with Garuda at 20ish and Shiva only 16 times.

Needless to say the drop rates are beyond ridiculous, especially considering this job can only be used in the Masked Carnivale and 2.X content that isn’t in the Duty Finder.

I am finding myself quite upset and highly disappointed, as I was looking forward to this job. Even the content made specifically for it is more frustrating than fun, and only gives allied seals, poetics and a small amount of Gil. Once players have achieved their titles they won’t any real purpose to do Masked Carnivale again.

TL;DR: BLU is a lot of work for little reward, and may be the biggest disappointment since 1.0, imo.

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If you keep on doing them, nothing will change. Basically you are saying you are prepared to continue playing the class with these drop rates.

I got my Mountain Buster from Titan HM in two tries, but my unfortunate partner-in-crime has done it 20 times with my dhurrgoon and has yet to get it. Safe to say we were rather sour after two hours of nothing.

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Originally Posted by Teraluna

If you keep on doing them, nothing will change. Basically you are saying you are prepared to continue playing the class with these drop rates.

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You are right on this, and I decided after I made my post last night that I’m done with this job. If we continue to play it nothing will change. I want to love this job, but I’m just angry now, which is not the feeling you want when playing a game.

Having gotten all primal spells finally I can say the drop rates are absolutely absurd. 100+ kills on Levi 50+ on ifrit while getting titan on 2nd try. It's too random for content that isnt even remotely challenging as HM can easily be destroyed by 8 blues and ex is nothing to a single 70. There is zero incentive to clear content as a blue since only the number of clears matter.

An easy solution is to boost the drop rate significantly only if cleared synced and with a full blue team. This is more engaging content then and rewards players for playing the class. I know I would rather spend 3 hours wiping as a full blue team in Shiva ex than that same time afk waiting for rng to say I can leave.

So my only gripe right now is that a majority of these PF parties wanting a blu/lv 70 split unsynched generally end up with the first group getting their spell then bailing on the rest. Unlike many I'm not blaming SE for this. The fault is with players and to me just shows the low quality of people in game. I appreciate the ones that do stick around to still help and the people that choose to help BLU's when they either already have the spell or don't need it because they have no plans to play BLU. I just wish you people were the actual majority here.