1.20a Patch notes

Repair npc's have changed a bit. Support can't be purchased everywhere anymore.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Repair npc's have changed a bit. Support can't be purchased everywhere anymore.

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Good thing we don't need support for anything anymore.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../Keystones.png

Me likey. :o

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Originally Posted by Masamune1004

Why do you want to set yourself apart from everyone else? You must have a pretty sad life if you need to be better than everyone else in a videogame to be happy, just sayin'.

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I actually strive to be the best in everything I venture into. What's sad is that you're content settling with mediocrity. You're whats wrong with our country. Stop settling for average and try to be above average. Derp.

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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

I actually strive to be the best in everything I venture into. What's sad is that you're content settling with mediocrity. You're whats wrong with our country. Stop settling for average and try to be above average. Derp.

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So what would happen if I challenged you to a failing contest?

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Originally Posted by BlackomegaKingofwaffles

So what would happen if I challenged you to a failing contest?

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If I chose to accept I supposed I would do my best to fail harder and with more style than you. assuming we are getting points for style. We are being given style points right? Wait. What are the rules to the challenge? You haven't given me any details. How can I accept a challenge with no details? I can free style too. I'm down for whateva!

/Endtroll

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

As people love to say on these forums:

FFXIV is not FFXI. Thankfully

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I fixed that error for you

Placing a repair request requires both gil and dark matter. The amount of gil and grade of dark matter needed are determined by the repair level of the item, and are as follows:
•Level 1–10: 100 gil and grade 1 dark matter
•Level 11–20: 200 gil and grade 2 dark matter
•Level 21–30: 300 gil and grade 3 dark matter
•Level 31–40: 400 gil and grade 4 dark matter
•Level 41–50: 500 gil and grade 5 dark matter


Does this mean we can no longer set our own prices for repairs AND the one needing repairs has to supply the Dark matter? So leaving the crafter only getting pure exp and gil at no expence? not sure if I agree with that. Mostly the not being able to set our own price.


Can someone confirm or deny this?

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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

I actually strive to be the best in everything I venture into. What's sad is that you're content settling with mediocrity. You're whats wrong with our country. Stop settling for average and try to be above average. Derp.

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It's not about "settling for average" as it's more about creating contests where none exists. The contest isn't to see who can finish first or who can kill the fastest, but who can kill at all. It's like going to a video in Youtube and going "first". It may be fun and all, but it's entirely pointless.

I've never seen so much childish epeen stroking in my life in one thread. What a great community /sarcasm

On topic, nice on the notes. Didn't expect the repair thing at all.

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Originally Posted by KitCat

I've never seen so much childish epeen stroking in my life in one thread. What a great community /sarcasm

On topic, nice on the notes. Didn't expect the repair thing at all.

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I have to agree it started so nice and on topic then it slipped, slide, and exploded into who has the bigger epeen. Need to have Horse Blinder put on people so they can only see what they are suppose to see as the topic is not on epeens but on the 1.20a notes.

I'm Impressed about the repair thing nice out of the blue item but most happy about the progress trackers on achievements now. *sits and watches the thread fall more into discord*

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Originally Posted by Tempestmoon

Does this mean we can no longer set our own prices for repairs AND the one needing repairs has to supply the Dark matter? So leaving the crafter only getting pure exp and gil at no expence? not sure if I agree with that. Mostly the not being able to set our own price.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

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Only if you don't want to take off your equip.
There is still the old way.

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Originally Posted by Tempestmoon

Placing a repair request requires both gil and dark matter. The amount of gil and grade of dark matter needed are determined by the repair level of the item, and are as follows:
•Level 1–10: 100 gil and grade 1 dark matter
•Level 11–20: 200 gil and grade 2 dark matter
•Level 21–30: 300 gil and grade 3 dark matter
•Level 31–40: 400 gil and grade 4 dark matter
•Level 41–50: 500 gil and grade 5 dark matter


Does this mean we can no longer set our own prices for repairs AND the one needing repairs has to supply the Dark matter? So leaving the crafter only getting pure exp and gil at no expence? not sure if I agree with that. Mostly the not being able to set our own price.


Can someone confirm or deny this?

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You can still set repair the exact same way as always. This is just an additional option to quickly repair all your equipped gear and/or weapons.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

Does who kills what first and how long the fight lasts really matter that mnuch guys?

geeze you act like you should be earning medals and getting paid to do it


but guess what, its a friggin game and no one cares but you!


im a whore when it comes to getting everything in games done, but i still dont go out of my way for alot of this cuz it really is just a pissing contest for the first 2-3 weeks and all the epeen going around is just too annoying to deal with like all of you are clearly showing now

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this wins the thread. Couldn't agree more.

Also not sure if someone pointed it out yet...that thing with the aoe bug..they changed it so when you cast protect or ss on the tank in ifrit (example) it used to also hit you (the caster) but now it doesn't :/

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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

In a game where items/gear aren't really THAT rare or hard to get then all you are left with to set yourself apart from everyone else is who does it first, who does it best, and who does it fastest.

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Grow up please and stop being so immature. It's just a game and let just enjoy it. I wouldn't want to be in your Linkshell even if you can kill every primal battle that is released. I play my game to have fun and meet people, not a freakin contest and who kill first or fastest. Just keep it to yourself because none of us here really care. Go around and getting defensive and thinking your LS is the very best just make you guy a bunch of immature and taking the game way too seriously. It remind me of people in Wow all over again which is why I quit that game a long time ago, Final Fantasy community doesn't need this kind of people.

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Originally Posted by Darkrose

Grow up please and stop being so immature. It's just a game and let just enjoy it. I wouldn't want to be in your Linkshell even if you can kill every primal battle that is released. I play my game to have fun and meet people, not a freakin contest and who kill first or fastest. Just keep it to yourself because none of us here really care. Go around and getting defensive and thinking your LS is the very best just make you guy a bunch of immature and taking the game way too seriously. It remind me of people in Wow all over again which is why I quit that game a long time ago, Final Fantasy community doesn't need this kind of people.

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Im not sure where all this hate is coming from, but surely, even you would defend the integrity of your LS if they are accused? That was simply what DevilsAdvocate was doing. It was never intended to be a dick slinging contest of any kind, its just that someone implied that BG exploit, DA gave evidence that we do not, and then others jumped on the bandwagon of hating on BG. BG members treat each other like family, so if the Blue Garter name comes up into question, you better expect that one of us will come to defend it. That is all.

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Originally Posted by Darkrose

Grow up please and stop being so immature. It's just a game and let just enjoy it. I wouldn't want to be in your Linkshell even if you can kill every primal battle that is released. I play my game to have fun and meet people, not a freakin contest and who kill first or fastest. Just keep it to yourself because none of us here really care. Go around and getting defensive and thinking your LS is the very best just make you guy a bunch of immature and taking the game way too seriously. It remind me of people in Wow all over again which is why I quit that game a long time ago, Final Fantasy community doesn't need this kind of people.

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Welcome to every MMORPG to ever exist. Competition is healthy. Otherwise why even bother having PvP, or a Super Bowl, or the World Series. Why not just have an NPC that just gives away Relic weapons and best is slot gear? Everyone deserves it because everyone is equal right? Ha. Go back to whatever socialist world you came from or get used to the competition.

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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

Welcome to every MMORPG to ever exist. Competition is healthy. Otherwise why even bother having PvP, or a Super Bowl, or the World Series. Why not just have an NPC that just gives away Relic weapons and best is slot gear? Everyone deserves it because everyone is equal right? Ha. Go back to whatever socialist world you came from or get used to the competition.

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Too bad competition is none existence in FFXIV, so what is your point anyway? Everyone play style is different. If your is about trying to be the first or get it with fastest timer then more prop to you. That doesn't mean anything though, like I said before only you care and no one else. It not like if you get it first kill or get the fastest kill time you automatically get a trophy of some kind.

I play my game with friends and to have fun and meet new people. I do it at my own paste and not rush to get everything first or be the fastest because in the end it doesn't mean anything. I enjoy every contents and having fun doing it. Everyone will get it someday, being first mean nothing in this game or does get it with the fastest kill time. I feel bad for you guy that think every MMORPG is suppose to be a competition. I don't think Final Fantasy XIV is your type of game then, better get back to Wow or Star War Old Republic. There you can have PvP and competition. I don't see what you trying to compete in FFXIV because it is none existence.

So you said every MMORPG competition exist and is healthy, but let me ask you this. You kill Moogle Kingg first and get your weapon then run out of contents and just waiting there for new content. But then one week later I kill it and get my weapon as well. Do you think your weapon is better then mine? Don't think so. And don't know why you compare real life sport to a game, a game is just a game.

I posted this in another thread, but it certainly applies here as well:

http://isanyoneup.com/wp-content/upl...1/09/dae12.gif

so it's funny how the thread gets back on topic then shifts back to QQ. if we dropped it, why can't you?

i'd be more than happy to go word-for-word with you about it (and soundly defeat you), but it's moot. and yet you kids keep trying to get the last word on a subject that's already passed. so tell me again who needs to grow up.

now, that said-

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Originally Posted by Murugan

You can still set repair the exact same way as always. This is just an additional option to quickly repair all your equipped gear and/or weapons.

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and it is an absolute godsend for both the repairer and repairee, imo. there are obviously still things in the game that could use some work/changes/tweaks, but i'm consistently impressed with what yoshi's doing with things... especially considering he's developing an entirely new game on the side.

oh, and p.s.!

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Originally Posted by Darkrose

blah blah blah QQ projection etc.
Final Fantasy community doesn't need this kind of people.

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rrrrrofl

uh, did you play FFXI? while they had stuff for all level ranges, for the better part of 8 years that game revolved almost entirely around endgame. and FFXI endgame was for world-spawn mobs you had to compete for claim over.

FFXI was an *intensely* competitive MMO experience in the PVE area (but lacking 'real' PVP). this game, by comparison, is absolutely care bear. everyone gets their own little instance and tries to act like because of this their actions have no impact on others and others' actions have no impact on them in turn. people running around willfully deaf dumb and blind.

then you come to the forums and spout this nonsense about not needing competition in an MMO? speak for yourself. not everyone uses these games as pretty chatrooms.

and protip: the devs don't exactly design these games with the "i want a pretty chatroom devoid of competition" type primarily in mind, either. i could just as easily use WoW as an example of why this or any other game doesn't need people like you.

however, i've been pretty candid about how the game needs players of all demographics, and needs to keep them happy, if it aims to succeed. but this doesn't mean that your demographic needs to ruin the game for mine, especially considering there is more pretty-chatroom-type content than challenging and competitive stuff.

and, again- no one from this LS has ever tried to take something away from players who don't like competition or challenge. we've never said all quests should be heroic difficulty, all crafting and gathering should cost billions of gil to fund and/or be nearly impossible to grind. we've never said class quests should take entire alliances hours to complete. we've never said petty level 30 NMs should be 8 hour spawns and/or be nearly impossible to kill solo. so why do your type keep trying to ruin our gameplay experience by insisting there be NO competition? by insisting there be NO challenge? by insisting we have NO place in this game? and LOL to that, anyway. hardcore players are what keep franchises alive. not the casuals that log in every few days or weeks to do the new seasonal quests, chat, then log out.

stop being self-centered, stop thinking the game needs to primarily cater to you and your type, and you and your type alone. BG members have never said everyone in the game needs to care about the things we care about and like the things we like. we also have our own individual opinions outside of the collective. we're just sharing our perceptions of things- DA is no exception. nowhere did he say you needed to hold the same values as he.

so, you want to talk about getting defensive?

l2reading comprehension. stop finding excuses to take offense to the tiniest little things which upset your delicate gaming experience. or simply don't read our posts. for the most part, we generally have absolutely no problem completely ignoring yours! :)

your baseless sense of entitlement is both baffling and revolting.





(yes, i realize i just contradicted myself by responding, but by all means- have the last word about it)

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Originally Posted by Darkrose

Too bad competition is none existence in FFXIV, so what is your point anyway? Everyone play style is different. If your is about trying to be the first or get it with fastest timer then more prop to you. That doesn't mean anything though, like I said before only you care and no one else. It not like if you get it first kill or get the fastest kill time you automatically get a trophy of some kind.

I play my game with friends and to have fun and meet new people. I do it at my own paste and not rush to get everything first or be the fastest because in the end it doesn't mean anything. I enjoy every contents and having fun doing it. Everyone will get it someday, being first mean nothing in this game or does get it with the fastest kill time. I feel bad for you guy that think every MMORPG is suppose to be a competition. I don't think Final Fantasy XIV is your type of game then, better get back to Wow or Star War Old Republic. There you can have PvP and competition. I don't see what you trying to compete in FFXIV because it is none existence.

So you said every MMORPG competition exist and is healthy, but let me ask you this. You kill Moogle Kingg first and get your weapon then run out of contents and just waiting there for new content. But then one week later I kill it and get my weapon as well. Do you think your weapon is better then mine? Don't think so. And don't know why you compare real life sport to a game, a game is just a game.

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If I'm the only one who cares about being first then why is there always so many people around the instance entrance when the servers come up? Why is there a huge rush to log back in? So much of a rush in fact they make you wait in line to get back into the game? If I were the only one in a rush to get things first then there wouldn't be any of these things. What I'm seeing by your reaction is your inability to do things as fast as you'd like. If you truly played this game to be with your friends and meet new people why are you even taking the time to bother those of us who care about doing things first? Why am I even worth your breath? We obviously don't have the same goals when we're playing. We have nothing in common. We're not on the same "level". So, my suggestion to you is to not comment about things that don't apply to you. World first doesn't mean anything to you so don't talk about it. Speed kills don't mean anything to you so don't talk about it. You don't mean anything to me so I'm done talking about you. Simple.

Lastly to answer the question about what I do with my time once I've beaten the new content. I go back to leveling crafts and preparing my gear for the next content. It's called being prepared. Like a good boyscout.

P.S. Sports = Games as well. "We're going to see a football GAME tonight". Touchdown = 6 points, Getting 50 CNJ = 5 achievement points. This game keeps score just like any other game. My examples remain valid.

Nothing wrong with being happy that you (don't mean anyone in particular) completed stuff first in a mmo...however I think people get irritated with folks sometimes because it starts coming off as special snowflake syndrome.

fusional, you put that better than I ever could +100 if I could.

There should be room in this game for all of us, no matter how we want to play.

And for Darkrose saying "That doesn't mean anything though" actually, it might not mean anything to you, but it certainly does to them... I may never be the "best on server" or have the fastest kill time but I can be impressed and strive to work harder to get my kill times lower. It means something to me too.

Not everyone needs a shiny gold trophy to let them know they did well or that their accomplishment means something to everyone in the world.

Also, friendly competition IS a good thing but there is a fine line between that and an e-peen contest.

I like turtles

i like trains

i like BG

(just curious about what will follow, sorry for OP but read all pages thinking i was about to read feelings about this patch that would have correct a bug and implement something that still bug after a couple hours of beeing implemented and i fall on this discussion again lol. Not really used to forum but i think some says "/popcorn" or so ?)

What is the most efficient way to get these Unmarked Keystones solo?

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Originally Posted by Victor

What is the most efficient way to get these Unmarked Keystones solo?

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probably hunker down at some intersection where a lot of spindiggles pass through and solo them. they go down pretty quickly and seem to drop 1-2 keystones *most* of the time. seems especially easy nuking as thm, since your thunder combo won't hit the trees, but pretty much anything will do.

there's a pretty good spot north of one of the bridge monkey NMs where the spindiggles come from 3 different directions at the intersection.

you could also farm the wolves near where spitfire paths.

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Originally Posted by fusional

so it's funny how the thread gets back on topic then shifts back to QQ. if we dropped it, why can't you?

i'd be more than happy to go word-for-word with you about it (and soundly defeat you), but it's moot. and yet you kids keep trying to get the last word on a subject that's already passed. so tell me again who needs to grow up.

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and it is an absolute godsend for both the repairer and repairee, imo. there are obviously still things in the game that could use some work/changes/tweaks, but i'm consistently impressed with what yoshi's doing with things... especially considering he's developing an entirely new game on the side.

oh, and p.s.!



rrrrrofl

uh, did you play FFXI? while they had stuff for all level ranges, for the better part of 8 years that game revolved almost entirely around endgame. and FFXI endgame was for world-spawn mobs you had to compete for claim over.

FFXI was an *intensely* competitive MMO experience in the PVE area (but lacking 'real' PVP). this game, by comparison, is absolutely care bear. everyone gets their own little instance and tries to act like because of this their actions have no impact on others and others' actions have no impact on them in turn. people running around willfully deaf dumb and blind.

then you come to the forums and spout this nonsense about not needing competition in an MMO? speak for yourself. not everyone uses these games as pretty chatrooms.

and protip: the devs don't exactly design these games with the "i want a pretty chatroom devoid of competition" type primarily in mind, either. i could just as easily use WoW as an example of why this or any other game doesn't need people like you.

however, i've been pretty candid about how the game needs players of all demographics, and needs to keep them happy, if it aims to succeed. but this doesn't mean that your demographic needs to ruin the game for mine, especially considering there is more pretty-chatroom-type content than challenging and competitive stuff.

and, again- no one from this LS has ever tried to take something away from players who don't like competition or challenge. we've never said all quests should be heroic difficulty, all crafting and gathering should cost billions of gil to fund and/or be nearly impossible to grind. we've never said class quests should take entire alliances hours to complete. we've never said petty level 30 NMs should be 8 hour spawns and/or be nearly impossible to kill solo. so why do your type keep trying to ruin our gameplay experience by insisting there be NO competition? by insisting there be NO challenge? by insisting we have NO place in this game? and LOL to that, anyway. hardcore players are what keep franchises alive. not the casuals that log in every few days or weeks to do the new seasonal quests, chat, then log out.

stop being self-centered, stop thinking the game needs to primarily cater to you and your type, and you and your type alone. BG members have never said everyone in the game needs to care about the things we care about and like the things we like. we also have our own individual opinions outside of the collective. we're just sharing our perceptions of things- DA is no exception. nowhere did he say you needed to hold the same values as he.

so, you want to talk about getting defensive?

l2reading comprehension. stop finding excuses to take offense to the tiniest little things which upset your delicate gaming experience. or simply don't read our posts. for the most part, we generally have absolutely no problem completely ignoring yours! :)

your baseless sense of entitlement is both baffling and revolting.





(yes, i realize i just contradicted myself by responding, but by all means- have the last word about it)

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Sorry for being off topic again, but I wanted to make something clear.

Cool story bro, and that's great you start putting word in my mouth. I never said there shouldn't be competition in MMORPG, all I said was everyone play style is different and FFXIV competition is none existent. And lol when did I say I only use MMORPG as a chat room? It funny you think all casual gamer are like that. It just seam you guy at BG is mad . I keep seeing post about server first or fastest kill. That is nice and everything, but if you guy are that great, there no need to let everyone know on here. Have fun with your game. You don't need to be a hardcore gamer to enjoy the game though. How I see every MMORPG or most popular one is cater to casual player anyway.

And yes I play FFXI for 6 years, I'm a veteran on there and but I never brag about anything.


PS: Sorry if I offended you guy though, but please stop trying to be so elite in the game and expect everyone play style to be like your. I stop reading when I see you said casual gamer use MMORPG for chat room and not wanted in MMORPG.

Weeee! Another butthurt thread. Get back on topic please.

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Originally Posted by Darkrose

Sorry for being off topic again, but I wanted to make something clear.

Cool story bro, and that's great you start putting word in my mouth. I never said there shouldn't be competition in MMORPG, all I said was everyone play style is different and FFXIV competition is none existent. And lol when did I say I only use MMORPG as a chat room? It funny you think all casual gamer are like that. It just seam you guy at BG is mad . I keep seeing post about server first or fastest kill. That is nice and everything, but if you guy are that great, there no need to let everyone know on here. Have fun with your game. You don't need to be a hardcore gamer to enjoy the game though. How I see every MMORPG or most popular one is cater to casual player anyway.

And yes I play FFXI for 6 years, I'm a veteran on there and but I never brag about anything.


PS: Sorry if I offended you guy though, but please stop trying to be so elite in the game and expect everyone play style to be like your. I stop reading when I see you said casual gamer use MMORPG for chat room and not wanted in MMORPG.

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I stopped reading when my brain started hurting from your god awful english skills (first sentence).