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11-18-2011, 05:21 AM
PrettyPrincess

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Originally Posted by Fayette

Now my only question is, will we be able to dye our already dyed-materia sets or will we have to start from scratch again with undyed and buy new materia for it?
For those who already have 2-3 melds on a piece of gear but hate the colour (red cobalt anyone?), will they be able to dye it when the change comes to say green without having to redo their gear and materia?

That question is already answered in the first post
11-18-2011, 05:30 AM
Lienn

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Hopefully we can clear up a few of the concerns that came up after the announcement was made.

In regards to dyeing HQ gear and materia-melded gear, dyeing these items will have no adverse affect on their stats. If you dye a +3 gear item, you’ll produce the same +3 gear but in a different color. If you dye gear with materia melded to it, you will have the same gear with the same materia but in a different color.

To dye equipment, simply select the materials and the desired dye from the synthesis menu. Once you begin synthesizing, the synthesis process will be skipped, and dyeing will succeed 100% of the time.

Regarding player requests to have NPCs handle dyeing equipment, we plan on allowing NPCs to dye equipment basic colors and crafters to dye equipment rare colors in version 2.0.

/happygalago

Good to hear! ^^ But if the synth will be 100% i got a question...will HQ dyes be removed or converted into NQ dyes? Because once you can't synth or affect the result, having or not HQ materials is meaningless.
11-18-2011, 05:31 AM
Powercow

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Originally Posted by Airget

I would assume yes, in terms that while they will allow basic colors to be dyed by NPC, if you want more "fancy" colors you'll need a crafter of the proper level to do it for you. It wouldn't make much sense if you could just put on a level 1 craft class and dye it yourself lol.

Think of dyeing like the current repair system, if you can repair it it's 100% success rate, if you can't repair it then you'll be unable to perform the task. Hopefully when they release the dyeing concept they'll allow people to seek dyeing through bazaar without having to trade to others in the same manner that they plan on allowing people to have melding happen through bazaars lol.

Heh, this is why I shouldn't post while sleepy. Re-reading it, I realized my question is really dumb. >>
11-18-2011, 06:05 AM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Lienn

Good to hear! ^^ But if the synth will be 100% i got a question...will HQ dyes be removed or converted into NQ dyes? Because once you can't synth or affect the result, having or not HQ materials is meaningless.

They could make it so that HQ items require HQ dyes in order to get dyed. This would keep HQ materials (and the dyes in particular) from losing relevancy.
11-18-2011, 06:22 AM
MeowyWowie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Hopefully we can clear up a few of the concerns that came up after the announcement was made.

In regards to dyeing HQ gear and materia-melded gear, dyeing these items will have no adverse affect on their stats. If you dye a +3 gear item, you’ll produce the same +3 gear but in a different color. If you dye gear with materia melded to it, you will have the same gear with the same materia but in a different color.

To dye equipment, simply select the materials and the desired dye from the synthesis menu. Once you begin synthesizing, the synthesis process will be skipped, and dyeing will succeed 100% of the time.

Regarding player requests to have NPCs handle dyeing equipment, we plan on allowing NPCs to dye equipment basic colors and crafters to dye equipment rare colors in version 2.0.

/happygalago

Thanks for this info. However, one question still remains.

What will happen to the stats of the currently dyed gear in 1.20?

For example: Will a (current) Cobalt Haubergeon (Red) still have the +6 STR after 1.20? Or will the +6 STR be removed and we'd be left with a normal Cobalt Haubergeon (Red)?

I really hope it's the former. I can imagine a lot of people getting pissed if this wasn't the case, myself included =/
11-18-2011, 06:55 AM
Estellios

I'm kinda hoping that they will make all current dyed gear into Undyed with stat bonuses, although there's ample time between now and the patch to get some undyed gear and prepare materia for it.
11-18-2011, 07:39 AM
Cichy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Hopefully we can clear up a few of the concerns that came up after the announcement was made.

In regards to dyeing HQ gear and materia-melded gear, dyeing these items will have no adverse affect on their stats. If you dye a +3 gear item, you’ll produce the same +3 gear but in a different color. If you dye gear with materia melded to it, you will have the same gear with the same materia but in a different color.

To dye equipment, simply select the materials and the desired dye from the synthesis menu. Once you begin synthesizing, the synthesis process will be skipped, and dyeing will succeed 100% of the time.

Regarding player requests to have NPCs handle dyeing equipment, we plan on allowing NPCs to dye equipment basic colors and crafters to dye equipment rare colors in version 2.0.

/happygalago

What is the point of +3 dyes than?
11-18-2011, 07:51 AM
Estellios

I'm guessing they'll no longer be obtainable but usable after the patch.
11-18-2011, 10:59 AM
Lienn

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

They could make it so that HQ items require HQ dyes in order to get dyed. This would keep HQ materials (and the dyes in particular) from losing relevancy.

Good point. Didn't think about this possibility...hopefully they will use this idea. ^^
11-18-2011, 11:06 AM
Alhanelem

Wait... gear is dying? does that mean the three city-states are becoming nudist colonies?
11-18-2011, 03:17 PM
HoolieWho

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Originally Posted by Estellios

I'm kinda hoping that they will make all current dyed gear into Undyed with stat bonuses, although there's ample time between now and the patch to get some undyed gear and prepare materia for it.

I like this idea. I doubt it will happen though.
11-19-2011, 08:37 AM
Rukkirii

To answer questions we've seen pop up. You won't be required to use HQ dye to dye an HQ piece of gear. NQ/HQ dye will be able to be used in both instances.

anddddd

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

What will happen to the stats of the currently dyed gear in 1.20?

Stats will remain the same as they are currently. :)
11-19-2011, 08:51 AM
Jinko
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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Posted this on the JP side - imo they should separate Dying and Crafting all together.

Crafters make the base equipment

Gatherer collects the color items

Anyone can Dye the equipment through system like:
Going through NPC

From item screen choosing the equipment and have new option to dye (I prefer this one personally)

And have a screen like this one (sorry it's in JP jut says dying, dye, cancel, required color items)

http://static2.finalfantasyxiv.com/a...ONipNvSAhY.png

This way it wont interfere with materia attached to the equipment or HQ/NQ quality of the equipment.

Kind of dumb how NQ equipment can become HQ item just by dying imo, at same time the equipment shouldn't lose the materia attached because of dyeing.
Thats magical :O
Hopefully they will take note of this :D
11-19-2011, 09:12 AM
Endemerrin

I'm still left with a ton of questions.

I'm still confused as to whether or not we'll be able to dye items that are currently coloured. Some people say it's been answered, but either I missed the post entirely - or it's right under my nose and I'm not seeing it. I haven't seen any definitive "yes/no" answer, but please quote and/or point me to it if it's there.

They've said we'll only be able to dye items once, but does this apply to items already dyed before 1.20? Or is it a rule that will take effect after the patch. Will I be able to dye my Cobalt Cuirass (Red) a different colour? It would be nice to know if I need to start gathering up new materias and catalysts and sets of armor to be able to dye my gear.

It would also be nice to know if the ability to dye gear will apply to items crafted before 1.20, or if the dyes can only be applied to items crafted after 1.20. Will colour palettes still be restricted by item, or will all the current color dyes be usable on crafted gear?

And last but not least, I'm assuming that "rare" items will not be able to be dyed? The Silver Tricorne, for example.
11-19-2011, 09:20 AM
Kiara

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

To answer questions we've seen pop up. You won't be required to use HQ dye to dye an HQ piece of gear. NQ/HQ dye will be able to be used in both instances.

anddddd

Stats will remain the same as they are currently. :)

Hi Rukkirii,

Excellent news! :)

It's good to know that we won't be losing our Bonus Stats from Color Gear we already own after this next patch.
11-19-2011, 10:58 AM
MeowyWowie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rukkirii

To answer questions we've seen pop up. You won't be required to use HQ dye to dye an HQ piece of gear. NQ/HQ dye will be able to be used in both instances.

anddddd

Stats will remain the same as they are currently. :)

Thank you for the clarification, Rukkirii. ^^
11-20-2011, 03:28 AM
Orophin

Seems like they should just get rid of HQ dye since the end result is the same regardless what you use.

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