Chinese costumes are out on Mogstation

I am getting a good laugh out of this.

Still waiting on my flying nimbus

Why did they even region lock anything to begin with?

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Originally Posted by hydralus

Why did they even region lock anything to begin with?

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Because China and Korea like the United States, Japan, the United Kingdom and Europe, have censorship laws. These countries also have differing values on what counts as obscene, how socially acceptable it is and how free writers, authors and artists should be. Korea and China's happen to interfere with the inclusion of certain elements of the game (The Gold Saucer I think was ought right cut form those versions because of gambling laws)The items in question were made to compensate for these (somehow. IIRC correctly at least one of these versions had an alternate way of getting the items like Fenrir and such. On the other hand its likely that China might had banned stuff like the Bunny outfits due to the heavy gambling association, geopolitical problems or due to their opinions on sexuality [this might also affect the Swimwear and Thavnarian Dancer set])

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

What the....its character based? Are you freaking kidding me? People threw their toys from the pram over the cost of the twin seat moogle, but that was account wide at least. For $18 for a fingle outfit, account wide should be an absolute. If it were character only I'd have expected $10 or less for the outfit.

I mean granted, I play my alts a tiny fraction of the time I play Kos, but still, for $18 it damn well should be account wide.

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They're basically propping up the EXP bonus and idea of it being a premium item to argue the cost.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Because China and Korea like the United States, Japan, the United Kingdom and Europe, have censorship laws. These countries also have differing values on what counts as obscene, how socially acceptable it is and how free writers, authors and artists should be. Korea and China's happen to interfere with the inclusion of certain elements of the game (The Gold Saucer I think was ought right cut form those versions because of gambling laws)The items in question were made to compensate for these (somehow. IIRC correctly at least one of these versions had an alternate way of getting the items like Fenrir and such. On the other hand its likely that China might had banned stuff like the Bunny outfits due to the heavy gambling association, geopolitical problems or due to their opinions on sexuality [this might also affect the Swimwear and Thavnarian Dancer set])

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This is incorrect, nothing at all has been 100% cut from the game (at least the chinese version) and very little has even been modified. The gold saucer in its entirety including outfits is in the chinese version.


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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

They're basically propping up the EXP bonus and idea of it being a premium item to argue the cost.

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Yeesh, that's a pretty weak argument. Oh well, my MRD is still under 30...

Still ridiculous though.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Because China and Korea like the United States, Japan, the United Kingdom and Europe, have censorship laws.

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World of Warcraft have Korean and Chinese clients and neither of these two countries are locked away from the rest of the world when they play WoW. I find it odd that Korea and China aren't allowed to play with the rest of us. I was looking forward to seeing K and C in the Duty Finder language list.

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Originally Posted by Yurimi

This is incorrect, nothing at all has been 100% cut from the game (at least the chinese version) and very little has even been modified. The gold saucer in its entirety including outfits is in the chinese version.

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Huh, well that blows the "compensating for cut content" argument out the window.

Sorry about the misinformation

While I have nothing against the cash shop as it is right now, I do think they are testing out what and how much people are willing to pay. It is a small-scale F2P test run imo (no, I do not want this game F2P).

I am just glad I am not interested in most of the things on the mog station, including the dress. The bottom part with those frills just looks bad.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

World of Warcraft have Korean and Chinese clients and neither of these two countries are locked away from the rest of the world when they play WoW. I find it odd that Korea and China aren't allowed to play with the rest of us. I was looking forward to seeing K and C in the Duty Finder language list.

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I don't think there anything nefarious about it. It is probably because SE does not have an in house localization team for Chinese and Korean. As a result they are behind us in patches and don't use the same version of the client we do.

That is pretty...

You people have complained for months about the region exclusives, things you weren't supposed to have. Then they add it to the game because of player feedback, and people are complaining again because of the price this time which I think is fair for bugging the team about this for so long, plus that it's never going to go away and you can buy it whenever you can afford it. The only problem I can see here really is that it's not account-wide.

My only problem is I wanted the Korean dress much more than the Chinese.

Mreh.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

You people have complained for months about the region exclusives, things you weren't supposed to have. Then they add it to the game because of player feedback, and people are complaining again because of the price this time which I think is fair for bugging the team about this for so long, plus that it's never going to go away and you can buy it whenever you can afford it. The only problem I can see here really is that it's not account-wide.

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Yes, "bugging" a company to sell us something. Oh, the humanity of it all! People aren't necessarily complaining because it came at a cost, but the cost is more than double every other glamour made available. Saying "well, it was supposed to be exclusive!" is rather flimsy, seeing you could make the same argument about Lightning's gear or even the Scion cosplay. Those were also only added due to player demand. Admittedly, the cost may be grudgingly tolerable to those of us with enough low leveled classes to make use of the added "perk." But for anyone buying this with all their jobs at 60 or not vested interest in leveling other jobs. That same "perk" is rendered meaningless.

Would be nice if you had the option to buy it with or without the bonuses if it meant the latter option would reduce its price.

Only $18? Rofl..SEs FINALLY getting smart. God knows half you guys(gals meibe..) reading this post would drop $120 w/o blinking for a Piggyback-atop -Tifa-Lockhart' (with suspenders) mount. Look what people went through for Twintania. Am I lying? This post gets 10 likes, my point is proved.

It costs a lot, no arguing about that. But it's possible that SE had to spend additional money to get the items to our version of the game which increased the price.

Better overpriced option rather than none option.

Now if only the promotional items could follow...

~The dress makes me look pregnant from the side. :( Probably wont be buying it. :|


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Originally Posted by dinnertime

You people have complained for months about the region exclusives, things you weren't supposed to have. Then they add it to the game because of player feedback, and people are complaining again because of the price this time which I think is fair for bugging the team about this for so long, plus that it's never going to go away and you can buy it whenever you can afford it. The only problem I can see here really is that it's not account-wide.

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Many people who complained for months, including myself, specifically said not to add it to the MogStation. Here are a few examples

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Outfit looks great, but can we please stop asking for them to add MORE stuff to the Mogstation?? :| Maybe just have a Chinese New Year event and have it as a seasonal reward

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Originally Posted by Quesse

I do mind. Ridiculous if they get it from an event and we would have to pay. We're paying the same subscription fee. This Mogstation milking has to slow down or preferably stop.

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Originally Posted by Palinq

Agreed. I'd love to have these in the game, but not from the store. I already pay for content updates.

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Originally Posted by Felis

He want it from the mog shop, no like from me

Like this post if you want it ingame as a recipe or from Gold Saucer.

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The problem, I guess, is that more people in that thread said they would pay for it. The demand was clearly there, so SE released it as a purchasable item. Now all the people who cried out that it should be in game are getting louder, while those who requested it are modeling it in game.

As an aside, the dress on the first post of that other thread is 10x better looking than the dress they implemented =(

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Originally Posted by Lokier

~The dress makes me look pregnant from the side. :( Probably wont be buying it. :|


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Yes, yes, <_< the dress does make you look fat.

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Originally Posted by The_Shang

That would somewhat explain the pricing.

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Exp bonus under lvl 50 would explain the pricing.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Many people who complained for months, including myself, specifically said not to add it to the MogStation.

The problem, I guess, is that more people in that thread said they would pay for it. The demand was clearly there, so SE released it as a purchasable item. Now all the people who cried out that it should be in game are getting louder, while those who requested it are modeling it in game.

As an aside, the dress on the first post of that other thread is 10x better looking than the dress they implemented =(

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Exactly. We are drowned out by the people throwing cash :(

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

My only problem is I wanted the Korean dress much more than the Chinese.

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Korean dress? Can someone post a photo of it?!
I've only been aware of the Chinese dress.

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Originally Posted by Killerkub

Korean dress? Can someone post a photo of it?!
I've only been aware of the Chinese dress.

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Originally Posted by Killerkub

Korean dress? Can someone post a photo of it?!
I've only been aware of the Chinese dress.

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Clearest image I can find of the Korean gear, and it is dyable.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

so SE released it as a purchasable item.

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It's unfortunately not as simple as SE deciding to release it. It's content that was exclusively designed for a specific region and thus held claim over it in its entirety. Due to the large demand for it, there was more than likely a push for negotiations to claim shared rights, however something like that does not come free, and if it's seen as desirable, does not come cheap. So this is not something they could have released for free without detriment. This is the catch when it comes to fighting for content exclusive to one place or another.

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Originally Posted by Lewtskie

It's unfortunately not as simple as SE deciding to release it. It's content that was exclusively designed for a specific region and thus held claim over it in its entirety. Due to the large demand for it, there was more than likely a push for negotiations to claim shared rights, however something like that does not come free, and if it's seen as desirable, does not come cheap. So this is not something they could have released for free without detriment. This is the catch when it comes to fighting for content exclusive to one place or another.

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Who exactly has rights in the region? I would assume SE has those rights, and then can make whatever decision they want?

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Who exactly has rights in the region? I would assume SE has those rights, and then can make whatever decision they want?

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Well, SE doesn't handle distribution or anything like that in the region, it's a different company that does that, so it's possible they hold the rights to the items. A scenario where SE had to pay to release the exclusive items in the other regions is not only possible, it's plausible, which would account for the price hike.

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Originally Posted by SessionZero

Well, SE doesn't handle distribution or anything like that in the region, it's a different company that does that, so it's possible they hold the rights to the items. A scenario where SE had to pay to release the exclusive items in the other regions is not only possible, it's plausible, which would account for the price hike.

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I see, interesting. That definitely changes things.

Is this something we know (That SE doesn't hold the rights in the region, and that some other company does), or is it speculation?

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

I see, interesting. That definitely changes things.

Is this something we know (That SE doesn't hold the rights in the region, and that some other company does), or is it speculation?

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other Company does and i think they mentioned it.

If this is how they're going to be pricing the international items they can just keep them over there IMO.
I didn't sub to this game just to get gouged by double dipping.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

I see, interesting. That definitely changes things.

Is this something we know (That SE doesn't hold the rights in the region, and that some other company does), or is it speculation?

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Operations are being handled by the Chinese game company Shanda Games on servers that are separate from Japan, North America, and Europe.

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Source: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000821.html

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Originally Posted by Zigabar

Source: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000821.html

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Reading on my phone so may have missed it, but I didn't see anything on there that says that company has rights to this specific glamour?

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Reading on my phone so may have missed it, but I didn't see anything on there that says that company has rights to this specific glamour?

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That wasn't your question, but no. There's nothing on there specifically about a single piece of glamour.

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Originally Posted by Zigabar

That wasn't your question, but no. There's nothing on there specifically about a single piece of glamour.

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That was my question, I'm sorry if that was unclear.

Ohhhh nice! I'm going to buy my bondmate one for a surprise.

I'm pretty sure Shanda Games is the one that made the prices for these items so high, it might have been part of the negotiations to make them available to the SE servers. Maybe what enticed them to bargain was that Maid outfit, since I'm pretty sure it wasn't made available outside of the NA, EU, and JAP servers. At the very least, this will appease the people who desperately wanted the outfit and are willing to shell out the money for it.

Wasnt there once a picture about a room tour at SE headquarter which showed the creation of the chinese exclusive mount? So it seems that SE creates everything for them and they just handle the rest? Anyway the prices are way to high for me, so I will pass on this. Nice to have them available but they could have put them in the Gold Saucer or maybe as a price from the new adventure book.

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Wow people will find anything to cry about. If you don't like what other people are posting, don't read it! No one is putting a gun to your head and telling you to spend your time reading it.

That aside, people are providing feedback. Chill

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So show me where individuals are providing feedback, cause all I see in this who post is people complaining, no constructive or positive feedback so far.