Preliminary patch notes are up

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Expert Roulette has only ever been 2-3 dungeons with the old list getting shunted down to High. I'm not sure where people are getting this notion that this is an exception. As for the Primal weapons... price isn't changing if not getting higher anytime soon as this adjustment will mean less people farming them because you can't do Undersized pony farming anymore.

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What do you mean you can't pony farm undersized anymore?

[2.0] The casting time of the ranged DPS PVP Adrenaline Rush ability, Terminal Velocity, has been reduced.

[2.0] The following items will now appear in the treasure chest of each party in an alliance when undertaking Syrcus Tower or the World of Darkness:
Wind-up Onion Knight / Puff of Darkness

[3.0] The weekly restriction on rewards in Alexander: Gordias has been removed.

Mmm nice.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

I think my eyes are broken, is there Spanish in the patch notes?

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/cc5...8e7308e_63.png

That roe in the back be fly as fu.

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It's french not spanish >_>

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Originally Posted by Elvin

Shield Swipe Is now an ability and does not trigger global cooldown.
Recast time has been adjusted to 15 seconds.
Potency has been reduced from 210 to 150.


This is a buff or a nerf?

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it's a nerf.

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Originally Posted by Hayward

My retainers have relayed their thanks to you for allowing Law weapons/armor to be traded for seals.

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Indeed...
https://40.media.tumblr.com/fb3bb46e...m299o1_250.png
...and that's not even my retainer, that's my own character's inventory, because my retainers are already full.

Having said that, I do have two concerns.
1) There's basically nothing new to buy with Company Seals, and hasn't been for quite a while now, if I remember correctly. I mean, Eagle and Swan Feathers, really? Even if they didn't amount to only two new items, the old treasure maps have been dropping so much of those that they've been well under 1000gil on the market board for ages (as far as I know), so what's the point of this addition? Unless some new recipes will require them by the dozen - new recipes for the highest level omnicrafters, something tells me, meaning it's still gonna be a very niche demand...
2) There's no word about raising that 50k seal cap either, which has been around since the start. And we've had so many item sets that can be exchanged for close to - or even more than 1k seal (for just one piece), that it still feels like idk what to do with either the items or the seals. ("Crafting mats", some say I'm sure, but those too have been around for so long, with such an abundance of seals, that there really is no need for extra effort to bother with them.)
+1: Why don't we still have Expert Delivery achievements, again?...

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Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove

Im just wondering why we can use Mounts on that small town-map where all there lv60 tomes shop are o_O

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This was actually the original intent for this area. It was originally designed for Hinterlands and the shire to be the same zone. So before they separated them, we would of been able to fly around anyways. But they changed that due to not wanting congestion to effect the hinterlands, with the thousands of people afk. I'm happy with the flying. But also the new aethernet, would of been enough on it's own. But again not complaining. I'm a full supporter of getting around easier in this area. I'm assuming the npc that lets you port outside will be removed, sense the Aethernet reward for attuning them all usually lets you go outside.

Also from the notes it appears that they are putting all of the Eso upgrade items in the vendor? That seems a bit odd to me. You would think they would filter them in peace-meal. Start with Coat, then Twine, then Wyvern Horn. That's what they've done in the past. Although maybe the fact the patch is late, we should assume this is normal. But it looks like both the hunts and void ark weekly will let you have any of the three. That's a slight departure from how they've done it before IIRC. I wonder what the cost of the items will be with logs(500seals each). 6=Horn 4=twine 2=coat? Maybe 8/6/4. Sense they are rewarding a drop weekly from the void, then its easy to assume the cost would be high in logs. Unless they want us to gear up in a week. But again, the patch is late, so maybe they just letting us catch up idk.

I think the horn is the wyvern mount summoning item, not the weapon upgrade, which is a gobdip lol

Woops, my bad. I actually got through re-reading the notes, and I was like wait didn't yoshi just say in live letter we wouldn't get the weapon yet.. So Ya that's my bad there. lol.

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[2.0] The parameters of enemies and mechanics in the following dungeons and trials have been adjusted:
Copperbell Mines / Sastasha / Haukke Manor / Brayflox's Longstop / The Sunken Temple of Qarn / Cutter's Cry / The Stone Vigil / Dzemael Darkhold / The Aurum Vale / Copperbell Mines (Hard) / Haukke Manor (Hard) / The Howling Eye / The Dragon's Neck / The Chrysalis

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Seeing Sastasha of all dungeons on that list is hilarious.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

The changes to limit break growth will be a real benefit to forming statics. It will be easier to fill in for a specific role and allow double job combinations instead of looking for the exact job.

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While any groups with 1 melee and 3 different ranged jobs just got kicked in the junk for no real reason.

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Originally Posted by FeliAiko

Seeing Sastasha of all dungeons on that list is hilarious.

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Satasha needed a serious nerf, let's be honest.

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Originally Posted by Drako

they changed that due to not wanting congestion to effect the hinterlands, with the thousands of people afk

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They don't want congestion, they should have the afk-kick permanently enabled. Can't wrap my head around why this game, struggling ever so much with network traffic/infrastructure/whatever, having a 15s-entire-inventory-backup in place, tolerates dozens, hundreds, thousands of people rooted to the same spot, not doing anything at all, for 2-5-8-10 hours. Completely insane.

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Originally Posted by Drako

I'm assuming the npc that lets you port outside will be removed

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No need to assume this, it is in the patch notes. Well, doesn't say he will be outright removed, but...

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[3.0] An aethernet has been added to Idyllshire.
* In accordance with this change, the goodly adventurer no longer transfers players to different locations.

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...really not sure why Idyllshire needs aethernet though. I mean if we were to restore the aethernet network of the Hinterlands, and Idyllshire's would be tied to that - that would make sense. But Idyllshire itself? And mounts? ... Yeah, really not seeing the reason. It's far too small for all this.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

While any groups with 1 melee and 3 different ranged jobs just got kicked in the junk for no real reason.

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No fan of that myself, but...
If I had to hazard a guess, it would be because ranged dps also have the "freedom of movement" to go with dps. How accurate that is now with our bow wizards is up in the air. :/

Used to be a thing where melee were shunned over ranged dps because they had to dodge boss aoes and cleaves harder.

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Originally Posted by Elvin

Satasha needed a serious nerf, let's be honest.

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Yeah, thinking about it now... not being able to damage the clams when they were closed was totally unfair.

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Originally Posted by FeliAiko

Seeing Sastasha of all dungeons on that list is hilarious.

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It's terrible, it's like they don't want new people to learn anything. Nerfing Stone Vigil and Garuda normal really? They build character and force you to improve.
I seriously hope those are not all nerfs.

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Originally Posted by Elvin

Satasha needed a serious nerf, let's be honest.

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Reading a sheet of paper to know which coral to touch... No..way, you are asking too much, and that coeurl? Bloody hell.

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Originally Posted by FeliAiko

Yeah, thinking about it now... not being able to damage the clams when they were closed was totally unfair.

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Let's not forget the final boss. His water splashy mechanics was too much to handle.

The interface for joining an Exploratory voyage couldn't be designed any more clunky from the description.

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* All participating players must be inside the free company workshop when undertaking exploratory missions.

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Really? So, before you embark, everyone must gather in the workshop. If you are using PF, you must guide all the folks to your plot and into your workshop.

What purpose does any of this serve? What is wrong with just having a DF type of interface? Full party, off you go.

Looks like a tremendous amount of development effort has gone into the minion battles. Here's guessing that content will be popular for about a week or two after release and then be done only by a tiny portion of players (chocobo racing anyone?).

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

...really not sure why Idyllshire needs aethernet though.

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Because even now there's someone in Idyllshire asking where the NPC is. And most of the time they're asking for a half hour or more before someone finally tells them. They haven't said how big this aethernet will be. All we know they could have just put the exit warp on the aetheryte like it is every other city. Either way, this brings Idyllshire in line with the cities so there should be no confusion how to leave town from the aetheryte.

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Originally Posted by Waeksyn

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Considering that you can get 210 gear in it but it will have random stats, plus the fact it gives minions and mounts and materia, I highly doubt that the content will be only popular for a week or two. Chocobo Racing didn't have any great reward to it, it was just something to do for itself. If you wanted MGP for mounts/minions/glamour, you always had other methods. If this gives Grade 5 materia, then that alone will be enough reason to pour months of time into this.

With the nerf to the dungeons and trials, I feel as if they're now going to be to the point where no one is going to give a hoot about boss mechanics because everything is going to be lolfaceroll.

Not only that, but newer players that DF for a dungeon that is considered more "challenging" or "difficult" Will wind up being those people that squeal about how hard the game is when there's nothing that forces players to think about what their class can do or encourage cooperation to get through content.

This is my biggest gripe about the patch.

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Originally Posted by Waeksyn

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Same reason that everyone has to gather in the Hitherlands for savage or in the zone of the raid (with the coils before it was in duty finder) This isn't in duty finder. So we got to go to the zone of entry to get in. In this instance it is your FC's workshop. Not hard to piece together that.

Also I am looking forward to exploring my fc. I think this will be pretty big for awhile. Due to all that can be done.

We don't know if it's a nerf or buff or just something slight like more reasons to go to the side rooms in these dungeons. I think just wait for the offical patch before people start going crazy over what it might be.

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Originally Posted by Kaela

Same reason that everyone has to gather in the Hitherlands for savage or in the zone of the raid (with the coils before it was in duty finder) This isn't in duty finder. So we got to go to the zone of entry to get in. In this instance it is your FC's workshop. Not hard to piece together that.

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Just because other activities have been designed with a bad access interface is no excuse to continue that design element with new content.

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[2.0] The PlayStation®4 DUALSHOCK®4 controller can now be used on the Windows version.

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Ok that mean no third party software or editing a file is needed anymore? That good but it could always been used already. Still won't be able to use the touchpad so guess the third party software still needed?

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Treasure Coffers
Players may sometimes find gear inside treasure coffers after defeating enemies. This gear is unique in that its appearance and parameters are assigned at random.

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Kecks for my WHM please.
Heavy armor for my WHM please.
Robes for my DRK please.
DRG armor for my DRK please.
MNK and BRD stuff for my DRK please.

$_$

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

No one has really said anything on the crafting front other than "LolSpecialistRecipeh8", so I'm going to chime in and say HOLY CRAP, RED SCRIP MATS CAN BE BOUGHT WITH LAW NOW, AND THE RED SCRIP TURN-INS HAVE TRIPLED!!!!!

This was the point in the patch that utterly blew me away. This is amazing news as a crafter!

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no it's not, they nerfed it way too much, law trade items alone would have been enough.

I agree, here comes the under

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Originally Posted by RyuSaarva

no it's not, they nerfed it way too much, law trade items alone would have been enough.

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They are in fact very good news.

Now crafters will be able to progress through the i150 > i170 stage at their own pace and feel like they are progressing instead of having to crash against a wall of grind. This change alone, will potentially bring back a lot of the dissapointed crafters with the red scrip system back to crafting. In fact, im the one who thinks this is how red scrip change ratios should have been from the begining.

Whoops meant under cutters*

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Originally Posted by kuma_aus

Considering that you can get 210 gear in it but it will have random stats, plus the fact it gives minions and mounts and materia

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You're misunderstanding Waeksyn's post. That last bit is talking about the Lords of VerMinion -- the Gold Saucer minion battles. Not Exploratory Voyages ^^;


http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/cc5...8e7308e_12.png

;_; What about furniture that's expected to survive?
(No humour; didn't read version: It's amusing that the patchnote text spells "dyeing" correctly, but the screenshot has the incorrect "dying".)

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Originally Posted by Kallera

No fan of that myself, but...
If I had to hazard a guess, it would be because ranged dps also have the "freedom of movement" to go with dps. How accurate that is now with our bow wizards is up in the air. :/

Used to be a thing where melee were shunned over ranged dps because they had to dodge boss aoes and cleaves harder.

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Thing is, ranged dps are universally less dps than melee and more for their utility right now, but there's no real extra useful utility from having either brd+mch or blm+smn that putting a penalty on groups with brd+mch+caster or blm+smn+brd/mch makes any kind of sense. They're essentially gimped enough as is.

I can understand the change; it just would've been better if it had been a penalty to 3+ tanks, 3+ healers or 3+ melee. Penalizing 3+ ranged dps is just rude.

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Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang

They are in fact very good news.

Now crafters will be able to progress through the i150 > i170 stage at their own pace and feel like they are progressing instead of having to crash against a wall of grind. This change alone, will potentially bring back a lot of the dissapointed crafters with the red scrip system back to crafting. In fact, im the one who thinks this is how red scrip change ratios should have been from the begining.

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I second this sentiment and am glad sanity is starting to return to crafting.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

I can understand the change; it just would've been better if it had been a penalty to 3+ tanks, 3+ healers or 3+ melee. Penalizing 3+ ranged dps is just rude.

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Or if they'd stuck to the same role groups as in the Limit Break tooltip they show nearby:
http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/cc5...8e7308e_65.png
...and kept Casters and Ranged DPS separate.

For the love of the Twelve, it even highlights the word "role" and then separate them into those groups... I foresee confusion in keeping the role groups separate when they're different in different content.

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Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang

They are in fact very good news.

Now crafters will be able to progress through the i150 > i170 stage at their own pace and feel like they are progressing instead of having to crash against a wall of grind. This change alone, will potentially bring back a lot of the dissapointed crafters with the red scrip system back to crafting. In fact, im the one who thinks this is how red scrip change ratios should have been from the begining.

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sure if you like that every player has every item and everything is common.

I am kinda confused. When a member leaves/get kicked does that mean people who decide to leave the instance while "looking for new party member" is active will then get penalized for 30 mins, too?

As it stands now, as long as one person leaves/gets kicked the rest can leave with no penalty.

[2.0] Players can now exchange Allagan Tomestones of Poetics for the following items

Encrypted Tomestone
Carboncoat
Carbontwine

Well, it's about time.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Undersized isn't going away, but if you remember when you do undersized runs the reward chest is gone. The patch is moving direct drops, like ponies and materials, to the chest. If the drops are in the chest, but the chest is gone...

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The hell, no it's not.

That chest is there every single time I do it. And I do it a *lot*.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

I still say they should of did shield bash instead of shield swipe.

Shield bash is connected to fast blades cooldown, use fast blade can't use stun.

Ever been in a 2 bard and healer party and there being a tank who fighting neverreap bees and it does final sting yeah dead unless the healer is quick enough and they aren't because tank pulls bees and the tree now only if the shield bash was on its own tank could stun and not worry about the cooldown.

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Never had a problem with this. Once the bees are at half HP I cycle through them and chain stun them. ONLY using my stun.

And it's not connected to fast blade's cd, it's connected to the global cooldown.

The simple fact that it's *on* global, with NO cooldown, is why it's spammable and lasts 6s.

So many long awaited QoL additions in 3.1... Thank you SE! ;;

Tataru confirmed for last boss.