WHM gear is BUTT UGLY

The head piece is awful, I'll give you that. But overall I prefer WHM eso before SCH one. I seriously can't stand the look of SCH Eso. Other than that, I personally really like some of the WHM weapons too. I love the eso weapon and the ramuh weapon too. But I guess that's just me. :v

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Speak yourself! I make the WHM gear look good :3
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3684/...76ddde2f_o.jpg

Just gotta get creative!

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You're wearing glam and that head goes for what...1m gil or more atm for most people who cannot make it? Telling us to be creative? Give everyone a few millions and their creativity will go up too!

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Originally Posted by RuruKun

It's the classic white Mage look, if it looked any different it would just be wrong. And AST AF gear look awesome as heck! I love how they stay looking close to the old FF classic jobs. Just me though I've been a long time fan.

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Um... Yeah. Cos Black Mage's AF2 is really the classic Black Mage look. If it wasn't, it would just be... Wait a minute.

It's fine to have classic design job gear. We saw that a lot with AF1 and AF1b. But I... don't really see the "must-have" of making the AF2 another reiteration of the classic design. Especially when other jobs have gotten a much looser interpretation of the 'iconic look'. ^^;

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Originally Posted by Exodus-E

Uh huh..
So I take that you've never heard of the Devout/Seer job, then?
You know, the job that's basically an upgrade to White Mage?

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Seer

Because it's clearly modeled after it (just like Black Mage's Esoteric gear, which is modeled after the Magus job).
If anything, it's appropriate that it gets said gear.

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I... fail to see how a cloak with cat ears (or whatever animal it's supposed to be) is somehow the origin of the WHM AF2 headgear. If the AF2 headgear had simply been a hood, with your hair visible beneath and everything, then sure, I could see more point in that. (Though those ears, as others have stated, is a pretty... big part of the Seer gear design.)

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Originally Posted by Plo8383

Next: The penis staff with two huge balls: The giver of life, the seed of the world!

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*cough* Well, given SE's penchant for adding balls to plenty of fights (Ramuh, Leviathan, Ultima, just to give a few examples), it wouldn't surprise me...

If you are a Miqo'te and that hood you have the ears, just the forehead gear needs to go.

Most cloth gear in general is ugly. It always looks the same a robe/coat thing with big ugly boots or sandals. Can't we have some different kinds of shoes? Maybe male/female specific gear? Like cool shirts and long jackets for males and dresses for females? A lot of the gear in this game is some of the most uncreative designs ever. No race specific gear apart from starting outfits, Not much gender specific gear, Small number of class specific designs Most designs just a reskin.

Most of ff xiv gear designs are female centric. I hope they differentiate some for each gender, like what they do to ninja af1 armor.

This is part of the reason I'm taking a break until the winter as it's so frustrating being a male healer and the gear we get. It's fricken all dresses and SO ugly. Why can a female tank be in a summer dress and hat, but I literally have been wearing the south seas talisman since level 30 and have yet to find a single thing I'd want to replace it with!? The ONLY thing I want SO bad is the Bohemian's Coat because it's soooooo cool, but was only part of Lightning Strikes and you can't get it any other way. I honestly feel like SE staff has never been outside before. See the new gear in Mogstation you can buy, the swimsuits? The men's one!?!? I'm gay and pretty fit, gym 4-5x a week, and even I wouldn't be caught dead in that stuff, why do they think men want to wear basically a bra with a speedo!? I just don't get it though because if I think of prominent FF characters that are male, like Cloud, Sephiroth, Squall, Cid, etc, can you see ANY of them wearing this crap??? Like at least put stuff like the Bohemian's Coat in Mogstation, I'd pay $20 just for that!

I just wish people would stop saying that this is how we are SUPPOSED to look, that we are a healer and based on past games this is how WHM looks etc because it's BS. Like I said in my last post, I've had female tanks in a bra and panties tanking, and I'm pretty sure a warrior or dark knight isn't supposed to look like that.

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Originally Posted by 416to305

This is part of the reason I'm taking a break until the winter as it's so frustrating being a male healer and the gear we get. It's fricken all dresses and SO ugly.

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It's nice to have the option to be as stripperific on a male character as on a female character, but I, too, prefer not to have an emphasis on speedos and nipple sashes.

What really irks me is how fantastic, versatile (non-AF!) glamours like the High Allagan tank coat are arbitrarily role-restricted. Casters who want a more battlemage-like vibe get...the Light Steel Galerus. With bonus nipple sash.

Yeah that's really my gripe, I'm not asking to be naked or anything, just why can't we be a battlemage type look?

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

What really irks me is how fantastic, versatile (non-AF!) glamours like the High Allagan tank coat are arbitrarily role-restricted. Casters who want a more battlemage-like vibe get...the Light Steel Galerus. With bonus nipple sash.

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I like role-based gear, it adds job identity so not everyone can look alike. Just like Dread Dress = tank. White buttwings = healer. Purps buttwings = caster. Tall coat = Bard.

Although I recently went back to glamouring the High Allagan Tank Coat on my tanks, as I was previously in a swimsuit, and doing stun kicks in sandals. But hey the High Allagan Healer coat is still very popular and it's right up there with the tank coat as the best looking coats in the game in my opinion. I just wish it could be dyed like the one we saw in the Crystal Tower story.

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Originally Posted by technole

I like role-based gear, it adds job identity so not everyone can look alike. Just like Dread Dress = tank. White buttwings = healer. Purps buttwings = caster. Tall coat = Bard.

Although I recently went back to glamouring the High Allagan Tank Coat on my tanks, as I was previously in a swimsuit, and doing stun kicks in sandals. But hey the High Allagan Healer coat is still very popular and it's right up there with the tank coat as the best looking coats in the game in my opinion. I just wish it could be dyed like the one we saw in the Crystal Tower story.

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Role-based gear mostly went out the window when we started having speedos, snowman heads, and a disproportionate distribution of universal robe/dress options vs. armored glamours (i.e. there are virtually none of the latter and loads of the former).

At this point I believe that the only items that should remain locked by role/Job are AF pieces.

I get the feeling the only reason gear is job locked is just cause they want to keep the heavy armor look as a tank perk >__>

LET ME MAKE HEAVY ARMOR MAGE, SE!!
*grumble grumble*

AND NOT THAT CRAPPY ARMOR DRESS EITHER!
Also TC, non-lala male mages have to deal with nearly every gear looking terrible on us. Learn to live with it.

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Originally Posted by SilverRhyme

Also TC, non-lala male mages have to deal with nearly every gear looking terrible on us. Learn to live with it.

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It's a matter of taste, but I'd suggest that Lala males haven't gotten the better end of the stick, simply because everything looks tiny and mushed when you are a Weeble person.

Just got my esoterics WHM headpiece, in my opinion it looks pretty good when viewed from the back or from the side, but then you suddenly look at it from the front and... well... let's just say this might be the first time I will worry about glamour...

You can always turn your head armor display off while on WHM.

This has been an ongoing discussion with my friend every time I buy a new esoteric piece and immediately grumble about glamouring it before I even put it on. So after seeing this thread a week or so ago I doodled what direction I wish they would have gone in, looking up old WHM gear from other final fantasy games. (Yes I stole the battlemage vials. I love that coat)

Overall I just wish we looked a bit more battle ready. Well and that my Au Ra didn't look like he is wearing a stuffed training bra, that the fabric was less shiny looking and that the few intricate, sorta pretty parts (top of the gloves and boots) were not covered up by the rest. Obviously a lot of the esoteric gear is just a remake of the original af gear which is fine. However while the others felt more intricate and epic...WHM feels lackluster to me. Which is disappointing considering how much time is spent earning it. Just my opinion and hope that one day I'll get a WHM specific robe I'll be proud to wear. Currently I feel like its that rabbit suit in a Christmas Story.

https://41.media.tumblr.com/0ce975ad...h0jo1_1280.jpg

I've been saying this forever! I think this goes for all healers. WHY MUST WE ALWAYS HAVE ROBES?! Some verity would be nice. I'm sure the people that design this stuff is bored with all the robe looks. AND IF IT HAS TO BE MORE ROBES, at least make them shorter . . . we get some nice skirts (Gridania Grand Company Seal Gear) or pants but it gets covered by giant boots and long robes.

Variety, that is my biggest wish for healer gear, especially for white mage. PS. I think the artifact gear is horrible and a boring repeat of everything else we have.

thank you.

1 word.


BOOBIES! :D

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Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess

1 word.


BOOBIES! :D

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Pfft. There are already plenty of things to put boobies in around here.

I'd make a spear counterpart joke, but male characters have very little in the way of discernable assets (i.e. insufficient junk to pack even the miniscule trunks with which we are provided).

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Originally Posted by BroodingFicus

https://41.media.tumblr.com/0ce975ad...h0jo1_1280.jpg

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This is......beaufitul
*cries*

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Originally Posted by BroodingFicus

This has been an ongoing discussion with my friend every time I buy a new esoteric piece and immediately grumble about glamouring it before I even put it on. So after seeing this thread a week or so ago I doodled what direction I wish they would have gone in, looking up old WHM gear from other final fantasy games. (Yes I stole the battlemage vials. I love that coat)

https://41.media.tumblr.com/0ce975ad...h0jo1_1280.jpg

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WOW, now that is amazing. In love with this look, and it would look awesome on both males and females.

The staff reminds me of She-Ra's headpiece!

I, too, totally miss the XI WHM pantaloons (demonstrated in that image).

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Originally Posted by Plo8383

You're wearing glam and that head goes for what...1m gil or more atm for most people who cannot make it? Telling us to be creative? Give everyone a few millions and their creativity will go up too!

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Considering I made most of my gil through roulettes, challenge logs, selling random junk from treasure maps, etc....a million gil shouldn't even take that long. But I digress. I said be creative, not "copy exactly what I'm wearing." Creativity doesn't always come from copying what you seem you know.

Casters wearing dresses and robes no matter what gender is really well normal in fantasy. In other games like WoW every other caster set is like that.

I for one really like the WHM Eso set with the exception of the helm which would work if it was looser.

http://i.imgur.com/aMoGKWD.png

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Originally Posted by Exodus-E

Seer/Devout, NOT Sage.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Seer
("upgrade" to White Mage)

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Sage
(a stronger "jack-of-all-trades" mage with lower stats)

Completely different jobs there.

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In fact, Sage is an upgrade to Red mage in FFIII with weaker strenght

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Originally Posted by Selli

Someone posted an image a long time ago of the classic WHM look as a gown (kind of like AST) and that was beautiful.

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It took me forever, but I found it!

http://img11.deviantart.net/848e/i/2...ty-d6i2i2z.jpg

Image is by RaineKitty of DeviantART. I did not make this. But I do however love the absolute heck out of it. @3@

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Originally Posted by Selli

It took me forever, but I found it!

http://img11.deviantart.net/848e/i/2...ty-d6i2i2z.jpg

Image is by RaineKitty of DeviantART. I did not make this. But I do however love the absolute heck out of it. @3@

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Female-design aside, that's the kind of headpiece WHMs should be getting, but we haven't seen in either of the online Final Fantasies. Closest being XI's Orison's cap.

With imagination WHM nun hood becomes Assassins Creed hood. The problem is that WHM robes don't mesh really well, (and the chest piece looks really bad on males). Priest chest works much better with WHM hood.

I'm more bothered about the fact that healers and casters share the same set always... that's really lazy SE and I'm tired.

The constant robes is pretty boring. WHM set is the most disappointing one honestly.
I'd like to see some skin in at least one set. I am not asking for '' ermaghurd everybody outrage '' armor aka '' skimpy ''. Altho I wouldn't be against it, whatever the concept artists wants. And really, most armor in this game is very conservative to begin with. There's very few actually revealing ones.
But what I am talking about is just a little bit of legs, and chest ( for men too perhaps. ). To break out of the '' nun in robes '' thing. It's okay if you want to feel like a nun, but it would be cool if others got something cool every now and again too :P.
It would open up for some more interesting designs with more pieces layered on top of each other too, instead of just one big piece of cloth wrapped around yourself with a hood.
Just let a little bit of skin breathe.

Just my opinion. There's only so much that you can do with a robe. The interesting stuff is really the ornaments.

That squirrel BLM set tho. What is that? I've seen it around, and holy crap! I WANT IT!
It's one of my favorites so far! I love the silhouette.

WHM have always been a long robe class. The only game that changed it a bit was FFXI, from wich FFXIV wants to distance itself.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20090404122508

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Originally Posted by Plo8383

OK so I main a whm. I love my class but we have the ugliest gear. Our Esoteric gear makes us look like nuns. We have a staff that is wooden and has boobs on it.

I look at the items that BLM or AST or SCH can get and I'm so jealous. Even our PVP gear is ugly. We cannot partake in the gear that makes you look bigger. I saw the squirrel tail and I thought ''Oh something kinda somewhat cute for roleplay''...not available to us. Figures.

Whoever makes the WHM armor, why do you hate us so much? Also, why do we ONLY have robes? The only decent set that I want to glam with is the casino one and I'm waiting to have enough MPG to get the full set.

Head gear: We're not nuns.
Robes: All white, plain with another color at times.
Weapon: Always a staff that's ugly...

No difference between the sexes at all.

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Please tell me this is a joke. WHM is the nicest gear in game! have you not seen the SCH gear?

I don't like the head gear we get with esoterics, but I glamour my glasses on head gear anyway so that doesn't matter to me much :p. The body of the WHM gear is pretty good though, it can be used with the Thavainarian Tights and Shoes and look good :).
Just an example of a nice WHM esoteric glamour if you're stuck for ideas ^^.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/1b07c27ac...jcxo1_1280.jpg

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

I don't like the head gear we get with esoterics, but I glamour my glasses on head gear anyway so that doesn't matter to me much :p. The body of the WHM gear is pretty good though, it can be used with the Thavainarian Tights and Shoes and look good :).
Just an example of a nice WHM esoteric glamour if you're stuck for ideas ^^.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/1b07c27ac...jcxo1_1280.jpg

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While looks/aesthetics are obviously all a matter of opinion in the end...that robe fits my male Au Ra the same as it fits your female, breasts and all, and that is not ok. XD

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Originally Posted by Plo8383

OK so I main a whm. I love my class but we have the ugliest gear. Our Esoteric gear makes us look like nuns. We have a staff that is wooden and has boobs on it.

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Lol. At least as a Lalafell you look cute wearing the hood =)

I don't mind the robe and when I get the hood I will have to glamour over it for sure. It is pretty terrible looking.

You're suppose to be a priest or druid like person so what else did you expect? I think most DOM gear is ugly, healer gear is always either purple, pink or white colored. I always thought the best looking gear was for summoners. Look at that top hat, it makes me look taller!! Too bad i can't glamour it to my AST

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...psyvseytu7.jpg

Esos WHM gear looks a lot better than the old Daystar stuff imo, AST Eso robe is the absolute best IMO, can't wait to hit 60 for mine,

I glamoured my WHM Eso body with the 150 Chivalric healing robe, some bunny ears for the head gear, some random short skirt thing for the legs and Aurum Regis Sollerets of healing for the feet.

To OP: couldn't agree more- I actually shifted to PLD for this reason. I prefer a detailed and well thought out outfit even if it means playing a sub par class. Hopefully 3.1 makes me regret my decision a bit less.