Miqo'te's Nose

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Originally Posted by namirei

If I remember correctly, since it was a long time ago and all, this is how it was in 1.0. They all had fangs (I remember having fangs lol) and you could choose between slit or normal eyes regardless of clan. I could just be losing my mind and remembering everything all wrong though XD

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Maybe during 1.0 alpha, but not 1.0 beta.

I started with 1.0 beta and I remember that Seekers of the Sun had slit eyes, normal teeth, shorter tail, normal skin color.
Keeper of the Moon had normal eyes, fangs, longer tail, bleached hair colors (less saturated than the ones from the sun seekers) and skin colors were shades of corpse white, bluish grey and night black.

Seeker of the Sun
Keeper of the Moon

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Originally Posted by Dijana

I don't think an option for it would make sense at all. I'm not saying I'm against it but, biologically, how weird would it be for people of the same race for some to have a human nose while their sibling might have a cat nose.

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Given that there apparently is some interracial mixing anyway, it's not that hard to justify. The mi'qote who have a human nose would be those with more hyur influence in their bloodline, and the more cat-like nose would be from the original mi'qote. If it's a recessive trait, even siblings could have different shaped noses, in the same way siblings can have different hair colors.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

how hard is it to add a dark nose to the game

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It's not about how dark or light the nose is. It's a question of whether it's shaped more like a human or cat nose. But yeah, given that there are a few nose shape options already, adding another shouldn't be too hard.

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Originally Posted by Kaelah

Only Keepers of the Moon have the sharp canines.

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Well, in theory Keepers should have sharp canines. At least the description of the race/clan says so. But on the character creation screen, both Keepers and Seekers are in fact displayed with the same squared off human teeth. My mi'qote would have been a Keeper if they actually got cat-like teeth. I was rather disappointed by the fact they didn't when I was making the character, so made him a Seeker instead. At least that way I get the eyes, which is better than nothing.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Well, in theory Keepers should have sharp canines. At least the description of the race/clan says so. But on the character creation screen, both Keepers and Seekers are in fact displayed with the same squared off human teeth. My mi'qote would have been a Keeper if they actually got cat-like teeth. I was rather disappointed by the fact they didn't when I was making the character, so made him a Seeker instead. At least that way I get the eyes, which is better than nothing.

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This is 100% false, they DO get longer, sharper canines. It's hard to see on the character creation, but if you look carefully when you pick out your character's voice (causes their mouth to open for the emotes) you will see the difference. My Keeper has fangs.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Well, in theory Keepers should have sharp canines. At least the description of the race/clan says so. But on the character creation screen, both Keepers and Seekers are in fact displayed with the same squared off human teeth.

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http://oi58.tinypic.com/2po31wh.jpg

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Originally Posted by Velox

This is 100% false, they DO get longer, sharper canines. It's hard to see on the character creation, but if you look carefully when you pick out your character's voice (causes their mouth to open for the emotes) you will see the difference. My Keeper has fangs.

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Well if by "hard to see on the character creation" you mean "totally absent on the character creation screen" then maybe. I don't know how a Keeper's teeth appear within the game itself. But on the character creation screen, when you do the voice emotes to get them to open their mouth so you can see the teeth, both Keepers and Seekers have completely squared off human teeth. And yeah, I checked for it. That's why I decided to change my Mi'qote from Keeper to Seeker. (Then when I moved to PS4, I checked again, just in case the PS3 version had more limited options, but there was no difference. Keepers still get square teeth according to the character creation screen.)

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Well if by "hard to see on the character creation" you mean "totally absent on the character creation screen" then maybe.

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My picture is from the character creation screen (PS4).
Maybe you was not enough zoomed in?

The teeth aren't absent. You can see them during some of the emotes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps5ef77e65.png

I just took that screenshot from character creation on PC.

"The development team designed Miqo’te as an entirely different race than FFXI’s Mithra"

That's being awfully generous. If anything, FFXIV's races are just diluted versions of FFXI races. Less differentiated traits, more human-like overall... so actually less creative than the original races' designs.

nekogirls, guys. Seriously, learn your fanservice.

Nekogirls should only have ears, tail, eyes and canines of a cat. Everything else must be human, otherwise it borders into zoophilia.

I just wish there were nose options for the face I'm using that were better blended to my skintone. I like the face shape, and wouldn't want to change it, but I would change the nose in a heartbeat if they gave us even just one nose option that wasn't darker than the rest of the face. Even if the tip was dark like a cat's but the rest of it matched the skintone, that would be cute IMO.

Try the same suggestion in a few months and try omitting any reference to Mithra, you might get a different response.

Devs are most likely to ignore requests if the only purpose is to turn this more into XI.

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Originally Posted by Raxion

But hey, SE obviously hit the nail on the head with the Miqo'te design.

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That chart only shows that the most catlike race available is the one people are gravitating to. Making it more catlike would probably make it more popular as well. Maybe that's why they made it so human, to avoid it becoming so ubiquitous that it homogenizes the look of the game. But if so, it seems a shame they have to deliberately make their races less appealing than they might be.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

Devs are most likely to ignore requests if the only purpose is to turn this more into XI.

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How about FFX?

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...hri_Avatar.png

Of course, going all the way to making Mi'qote (or even optionally a few of them) look like Ronso would be taking it too far for an after-release addition. But it's a good example of how it's perfectly possible to have a catlike humanoid race that actually retains catlike features.

Nobody picked Mi'qote in order to look human. We have another race for that. People picked Mi'qote either because it's the closest we have to an beast-like race or because it's the closest we have to a cat-like race. Emphasizing that by allowing people to have somewhat more catlike features would only improve it. And a few more catlike options on the noses available would be a good way to do that -- subtle enough to not materially change the look of the race as a whole, while still enough to emphasize what makes the race distinct.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

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I personally picked Mi'qote because it was the best looking race. I don't care about looking like a beast, a cat, a feral creature, or any such thing. I'm sure having the choice there for some wouldn't be so bad. But I personally didn't like how Mithra looked, now fangs I'd be fine with just like I'm fine with cat eyes, but if they were to say change us to all look more feral, or feline, instead of giving it as an option, I'd personally roll Hyur or whatever Yugiri might be if the race isn't ugly.

Again options are nice but not all of us picked the cat race because we like to be animals. If you want to look pretty and be proportionate you only have two options, Hyur and M'iqote. Elezaan are disproportionate with long necks and are super tall, Roegadyn are Roegadyn, and Lalafell are super cutesy and very tiny. I'd imagine if the Elves necks weren't so long and they weren't so tall they'd be picked more. Elves are after all usually the most picked race in MMORPG.

And I picked Miqo'te because I wanted to be somewhat animal like, not as much as Skyrims Kahjiit (though if the option was available, and with fantasias, heck yeah I'd play as something like a Kahiit for a few months). Hopefully as time goes on SE will add some more facial feature options. I would really like to be able to choose facial stripes and color. I remember reading some lore that older Miqo'tes stripes are bolder..

Even tough I would like my character to look more feral like, that doesn't mean I dislike the cutsie options. Let the house cats look cute and the jungle cats be scruffy ._.

Also everyone should know how a Miqo'te look the moment he (or she) enter the character creator.

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Originally Posted by Enthy

And I picked Miqo'te because I wanted to be somewhat animal like, not as much as Skyrims Kahjiit (though if the option was available, and with fantasias, heck yeah I'd play as something like a Kahiit for a few months). Hopefully as time goes on SE will add some more facial feature options. I would really like to be able to choose facial stripes and color. I remember reading some lore that older Miqo'tes stripes are bolder..

Even tough I would like my character to look more feral like, that doesn't mean I dislike the cutsie options. Let the house cats look cute and the jungle cats be scruffy ._.

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Yeah I agree that options between the two wouldn't be bad. Although I think boys can look pretty feral depending on how they create the character, i've seen some pretty feral, scruffy, male cats. Seems like it's just the females that are delegated to being only cute or pretty lol.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Maybe during 1.0 alpha, but not 1.0 beta.

I started with 1.0 beta and I remember that Seekers of the Sun had slit eyes, normal teeth, shorter tail, normal skin color.
Keeper of the Moon had normal eyes, fangs, longer tail, bleached hair colors (less saturated than the ones from the sun seekers) and skin colors were shades of corpse white, bluish grey and night black.

Seeker of the Sun
Keeper of the Moon

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If I remember correctly, then only the Seeker of the Sun had heterochromatic(*?!) eyes available and not every race as it is now.

(* Talking about "two different eye colors")

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Originally Posted by Coris

If I remember correctly, then only the Seeker of the Sun had heterochromatic(*?!) eyes available and not every race as it is now.

(* Talking about "two different eye colors")

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IIRC, it was always possible to give both clans heterochromia in 1.0. It was just more predominant in Seeker culture, but it's actually a trait shared by all Miqo'te.

In that video itself, you can see the user give her character different eyes

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Originally Posted by Velox

IIRC, it was always possible to give both clans heterochromia in 1.0. It was just more predominant in Seeker culture, but it's actually a trait shared by all Miqo'te.

In that video itself, you can see the user give her character different eyes

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Hah, my bad xD I didn't watch the videos /blush

Well, but still it was a "Miqo'te only" thing and now it's available to everyone

On topic: I am fine with the 'normal' noses, but I wouldn't be against more options (for customization in general)

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Originally Posted by Coris

Hah, my bad xD I didn't watch the videos /blush

Well, but still it was a "Miqo'te only" thing and now it's available to everyone

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The option was also for Lalafells.
Don't know about the other races

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Originally Posted by Felis

The option was also for Lalafells.
Don't know about the other races

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Thought so too, but wasn't sure enough so I left it out.