If locked gear progression is still valued, why do sands/oil still flow free in Hunts

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Originally Posted by Bushido_Brown

This gear will be obsolete in a few months anyway, so it really shouldn't be that big of a deal, should it?

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TBH, I find gear being obsolete every three months kinda shit and introduces power creep. Just compare HP/MP numbers from 2.0 to 2.3. More horizontal progression would be nice instead of just a stupid gear treadmill that's the same old. After a certain point the numbers don't even mean anything anymore (see WoW).

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Originally Posted by Bushido_Brown

I guess I'm in the minority for not worrying about what others are doing with their time in getting new gear. As someone who runs coil with a static, and likes to share loot, I'm all for another having another way to supplement my own gear (4/5 left side BiS pieces for DRG are Sol) and not have to deal with the (0.125*2) chance once a week at Sands of Time. This gear will be obsolete in a few months anyway, so it really shouldn't be that big of a deal, should it?

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Three months is still a long time for this game.

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Originally Posted by Magis

TBH, I find gear being obsolete every three months kinda shit and introduces power creep. Just compare HP/MP numbers from 2.0 to 2.3. More horizontal progression would be nice instead of just a stupid gear treadmill that's the same old. After a certain point the numbers don't even mean anything anymore (see WoW).

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I completely agree, the treadmill of lockouts and RNG to get new gear every patch, only enjoying the accomplishment of a full set momentarily before a new ilvl is introduced gets old. I would honestly like them to step it back for a while and just let us Level up as well, like from maybe 50 to 60. All these level 50 quests that reward exp, feels like an inside joke from SE -_-

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

You still have to put time and effort into hunts. It's not a one run and done got my loot kind of deal. It takes a lot more effort to hunt 750 seals than to run 1 Syrcus Tower. I hope you can appreciate the difference in effort.

It's not like we go out, kill 1 mob, get a sand.

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I can apreciate the difference in time spent, not in effort
and it's not like ST drop 100% of the time 8sands and you can run it as many time as you want
and if you're lucky you go out you kill 3mobs you get 3log=1sand.

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Originally Posted by Bushido_Brown

I completely agree, the treadmill of lockouts and RNG to get new gear every patch, only enjoying the accomplishment of a full set momentarily before a new ilvl is introduced gets old. I would honestly like them to step it back for a while and just let us Level up as well, like from maybe 50 to 60. All these level 50 quests that reward exp, feels like an inside joke from SE -_-

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we need merits or AA's

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Originally Posted by Magis

TBH, I find gear being obsolete every three months kinda shit and introduces power creep. Just compare HP/MP numbers from 2.0 to 2.3. More horizontal progression would be nice instead of just a stupid gear treadmill that's the same old. After a certain point the numbers don't even mean anything anymore (see WoW).

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Well with FFXIV so far anyway they are keeping it under control (2-3 points per 10 tier) Where WoW went wrong was....

Original: HP of a dps 5-7k
1st Expansion: 20k
2nd Expansion: 100k
3rd expansion: 200k
4th expansion: 1st tier = 400k; last tier = 750k

They went completely stupid with their numbers. (I stopped at the 1st expansion because of this.. the numbers for 2nd-4th are from word of mouth/quick googles)

They do need to stop the freaking 6 month resets though. "Hey guys that 2.0 content we spend over a year developing? Were going to make it totally worthless now!". Group gear being superior to the previous tier of raiding is a issue. Really should be sitting at.

ilvl 70 = group
ilvl 80 = CT1
ilvl 90 = CT2
ilvl 100 = Coil1
ilvl 110 = Coil2

Primals scattered through

Why? Because there would be DOUBLE the content there is right now Instead of every patch cycle resetting it back to 4 events.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

LOL, you must live in a fantasy world where people actually wait for others to arrive before pulling/killing the monsters. Either that, or you're blessed to be on a server that has people that want to help themselves AND others vs. just helping themselves.

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Well..when people don't wait on Behemoth, they have a good chance to lose all their credit when the reset is successful :)

Gear gets "obsolete" every 6 months actually and myth gear is still widely used for anyone that plays more than one job, my understanding is i90 gear is perfectly fine for a lot of Second Coil anyway. I expect the jump in gear in the future to be a gentler slope like 2.2 compared to going level 50 to iL90 at launch.

They need to make more freaking odd-leveled gear though. Level 95 or 105 gear to give us more options would have been neat.

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Originally Posted by Kagari_Asuha

Three months is still a long time for this game.

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Three months isn't that long in a MMO. The community in this game always makes me laugh, they treat everything as if it needs to happen right now.

It'll probably be i120 by the time the expansion hits.

With any luck, you'll need at least i100 to even reach the new level cap, but the old gear should remain usable the whole way through. That way, the 50-60 climb for a new player in 3.0 still has the same gear progression as 2.x, with them ideally sitting at around i110 after reaching the new cap, ready for the next tier of gear progression.

Of course that's assuming that SE doesn't introduce horizontal progression, which would be great if they did. I'm just not betting on it.

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Originally Posted by Magis

TBH, I find gear being obsolete every three months kinda shit and introduces power creep. Just compare HP/MP numbers from 2.0 to 2.3. More horizontal progression would be nice instead of just a stupid gear treadmill that's the same old. After a certain point the numbers don't even mean anything anymore (see WoW).

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Gear is obsolete every 6 months when the ilvl gets increased not every 3 months.