Please use the Japanese name for the vanity system: "Mirage Prism"

I hope it gets a lot of pointless sparkles when activated.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I hope it gets a lot of pointless sparkles when activated.

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Like so ?

http://gallery.fanserviceftw.com/_im...n_sequence.gif

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Originally Posted by SirSaber

Like so ?

http://gallery.fanserviceftw.com/_im...n_sequence.gif

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Maybe a little more than that.
http://i.minus.com/itNRXLS71vWdK.gif
Except so bright, iris' will seal forever should they look directly at my glory.

Mirage Prism sounds like an actual reason for why adventurers would be wearing one set but showing another, due to a mirage prism projecting another image of themselves. Glamour just sounds like a label to the system as a whole and in no way describes the system or why it is.

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Originally Posted by Ihm

Mirage Prism sounds like an actual reason for why adventurers would be wearing one set but showing another, due to a mirage prism projecting another image of themselves. Glamour just sounds like a label to the system as a whole and in no way describes the system or why it is.

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I don't think you understand that mirage prism is just a fancy engrishy name for the vanity system and is not literally a mirage prism like you think.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Maybe a little more than that.
http://i.minus.com/itNRXLS71vWdK.gif
Except so bright, iris' will seal forever should they look directly at my glory.

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I'd have preferred a Sailor Moon style transformation scene anytime we change our appearance in some way.

Make it optional. I want Mirage Prism. Others want Glamour.

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Originally Posted by BlueMage

Sailor Moon style transformation scene

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I am 76% sure they got that idea from Disney nonsense like magic wish dresses that totally one up the effort your army of enthralled mice and birds torn to shreds by resentful and paranoid stepsisters.

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Originally Posted by Corvinoobus

As some posters have observed, “glamour” has an archaic meaning of “magical illusion,” and we have used it in this fashion since 1.0. Given the lore behind this new system, it was an obvious choice for the English version.

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Originally Posted by Melithea

More specifically, glamour is the magic that faeries use to superficially change the appearance of an object. This meaning dates back 300 years, and to this day "a magic spell" is the primary definition of glamour, with strong implications of being a disguise. While the MMO standard these days is to call it a vanity system, SE could not have picked a more perfect word to describe what they are doing.

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Originally Posted by Spellbinder

Glamour. It's a word often associated with magic and illusions in English folk tales, so I say roll with it.

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Originally Posted by Daenerys_Sedai

a "glamour" or aesthetic/camouflage spell is pretty consistent with other fantasy novels. For example, The Kingkiller Chronicles and A Song of Ice and Fire both use the term. Even the Harry Potter series.

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Originally Posted by BlueMage

If you read quest text on leves and such, "glamours" are what its called when a monster makes itself look like another monster. Glamour seems to be the phrase for illusion magic in the english version.

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I couldn't agree more with the above posters.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Glamour: 1: a magic spell <the girls appeared to be under a glamour — Llewelyn Powys>

The use of the word 'glamour' here stems from archaic definition and is still used in many fantasy genres to describe an illusion or magick spell. As Daenerys_Sedai mentioned, it's used that way in many well-known fantasy novels. I remember it being used in the Whedon-verse of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel, where a glamour was a spell used to conceal or hide the true form of an object, person or area under an illusion.

'Mirage Prism' just sounds like a broken translation, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

I couldn't agree more with the above posters.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Glamour: 1: a magic spell <the girls appeared to be under a glamour — Llewelyn Powys>

The use of the word 'glamour' here stems from archaic definition and is still used in many fantasy genres to describe an illusion or magick spell. As Daenerys_Sedai mentioned, it's used that way in many well-known fantasy novels. I remember it being used in the Whedon-verse of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel, where a glamour was a spell used to conceal or hide the true form of an object, person or area under an illusion.

'Mirage Prism' just sounds like a broken translation, IMO.

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I honestly didn't know this. Neat.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

I couldn't agree more with the above posters.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Glamour: 1: a magic spell <the girls appeared to be under a glamour — Llewelyn Powys>

The use of the word 'glamour' here stems from archaic definition and is still used in many fantasy genres to describe an illusion or magick spell. As Daenerys_Sedai mentioned, it's used that way in many well-known fantasy novels. I remember it being used in the Whedon-verse of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel, where a glamour was a spell used to conceal or hide the true form of an object, person or area under an illusion.

'Mirage Prism' just sounds like a broken translation, IMO.

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mirage prism sounds cooler IMO, but yes, you are correct and i agree that it does sound like a mistranslation.

So what are the prisms/shards going to be called in english?

...glam rocks?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Maybe a little more than that.
http://i.minus.com/itNRXLS71vWdK.gif
Except so bright, iris' will seal forever should they look directly at my glory.

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Go big or go home.

It's not worth animating unless it's fullblown magical girl quality.
http://imageshack.com/a/img691/6081/7ke.gif

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Originally Posted by Roda

Go big or go home.

It's not worth animating unless it's fullblown magical girl quality.
http://imageshack.com/a/img691/6081/7ke.gif

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Even that's not good enough. There's no brief nudity in that transformation sequence.

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Originally Posted by Roda

Go big or go home.

It's not worth animating unless it's fullblown magical girl quality.

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Man, you wouldn't even have magical girls if it wasn't for Disney.
Probably.
It would be less likely in any case.

Miqote transforming would probably look more like
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...ma-d6cjipu.gif

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Originally Posted by Farah

Miqote transforming would probably look more like
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...ma-d6cjipu.gif

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<3 Ichigo <3

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Originally Posted by CatholicFan

I understand that being a translator for a foreign fan-base is probably a pretty thankless job. So, I want to start by saying I think generally, the localization team does an excellent job. As much as I usually enjoy their work and appreciate the humor they bring to much of the game, I really like the original Japanese name for the upcoming vanity system:

Mirage Prism

Now, I know that the English name for this is tentatively being called the "Glamour" system; however, after catching in the latest Live Letter what the Japanese are calling it, I'm really hoping we can ask to keep it the same as them. Mirage Prism has a very fantasy sound to it. I assume the English name is more of a reference to the older concept of a glamour, or a visual charm spell, but I think Mirage Prism has more panache.

Please, SE, consider changing this!

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Originally Posted by CatholicFan

As much as I usually enjoy their work and appreciate the humor they bring to much of the game, I really like the original Japanese name for the upcoming vanity system

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People think that the Japanese word is always the original. I'm sorry to break it to ya fanboys there are a lot of cases where the English version actually comes first. Source: I work in the game industry here in Tokyo.

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Originally Posted by Fuddy

People think that the Japanese word is always the original. I'm sorry to break it to ya fanboys there are a lot of cases where the English version actually comes first. Source: I work in the game industry here in Tokyo.

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Mhm, so what you're saying is: A lot of Japanese only releases were produced in English then localized to Japanese and never released in the west? A lot of cases they use English words for certain terms but it's very rare for Japanese games to use the localized/translated term, especially early on in the industry which is where a lot of 'comes first' thought process revolves around.

Mirage Prism Planet Power - Make Up! Ohoho ~

Mirage Prism just sounds dumb. Like someone is trying way too hard to be creative.

JMO

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Originally Posted by CYoung187

Mirage Prism just sounds dumb. Like someone is trying way too hard to be creative.

JMO

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So does Glamour.

So does anything in the existence of written and spoken Language.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Mhm, so what you're saying is: A lot of Japanese only releases were produced in English then localized to Japanese and never released in the west?

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Wow way to toss the context right out of Fuddy's statment. The Japanese version of the word not the version of the work as a whole.

Or how about this, from this very thread?

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Originally Posted by Corvinoobus

Hey y’all,

It may surprise some of you to learn that a great deal of official terminology is determined through a collaborative effort. The Japanese lore team frequently consults with the localization teams, asking them to provide suggestions, which are then localized into JP.

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Think SE is the only one that does it? English has a tremendous amount of words. It's easy to borrow from it because it's pretty much got a word for everything, where not every language does.