[Guide] Warrior Tanking Compendium 2.0 (Lvl 50)

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Originally Posted by Exrage

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I was under the impression that Mantra is 10% under 45, not 5.

Regardless, I feel the only useless cross class skills are Savage Blade (skull sunder is the same) and depending on the boss, Inner Release can be a better choice then Featherfoot or Awareness. Savage Blade is the only truly useless skill for War, but Awareness, Featherfoot, Release and Mantra all have rolls to play.

Second wind should be comboed with berzerk.

can people plz stop making guides that are a fail to begin with, you have good information in there but you also have to much information in there to make my head hurt this will only spawn more failed Warrior tanks 2nd failed warrior Tank guide!

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Originally Posted by Ondesvin

can people plz stop making guides that are a fail to begin with, you have good information in there but you also have to much information in there to make my head hurt this will only spawn more failed Warrior tanks 2nd failed warrior Tank guide!

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Thanks for the feedback. I try to put up as much information as possible for those reading to come to their own conclusions.

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Originally Posted by Lhun

... but Awareness, Featherfoot, Release and Mantra all have rolls to play.

Second wind should be comboed with berzerk.

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A very good point, but unless you provide clear examples the OP can't include it in his guide or won't so his guide isn't as confusing. Some fights favor more evasion, true, but no boss has a notably high crit rate worth the 25% crit reduction bonus in lieu of dodge that I've run into yet. A good point on second wind that should be noted, I tend to pop it just prior to berserk to maximize damage.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Thanks for the feedback. I try to put up as much information as possible for those reading to come to their own conclusions.

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Yeah the kid made a pass by my guide first as well, took a shit all over his own credibility before getting checked by a guy laughing at all his recent posts. Got trolls taking blind stabs to fuel their tantrums for any sort of pity, welcome to the internet big time. ;-)

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

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first of all Second wind is a Waste to have as a skill, do the test and you will know.
2nd our own self heals wont keep us alive, they are good to handle huge spike damage like MB on Titan, and probaly what you should use them for, anything else is just pure BS, we are behind PLD tanks and no amount of gear or stats adjustment can fix that for its our class skills that are broken.

fact Stack Vit and parry.
fact use IB on spike damage or near death
fact dont use Macro's learn to weave in your CD's when you fire off your chains (BB/SE)
fact warriors dont do more dps then a PLD.
fact storm patch is worthless
fact Bloodbath and vengence works great on AoE pulls with Mass spawn Owerpower spam.
fact the 4 "warrior guides" are full of miss information. and will only make you a worse tank not better.

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Originally Posted by Ondesvin

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First up if you believe Second Wind is a waste (you don't advocate macros so that makes sense) then what would you replace it with, I'd supply ample statistics with something more than "do the test and you will know," getting carried in pug groups and grinding AK doesn't make your opinion valid.

In what gear are you intending to stack parry into something that isn't laughable. In what world does a 20 button bar make more sense than an 8 button macro bar. Given your horrid "facts" the fact a paladin out damages *you* is unsurprising and hilarious. Lastly while your tip on AOE may work just fine in AK, exactly what is your thoughts on the coil adds whose HP will *far* outlast your meager TP.

You wonder why nobody takes you seriously and pities you- it's 'cause your data is false and you fail to provide anything to prove the contrary for those of us that do test everything. Stop making your group carry your ass and do some work for a change.

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Originally Posted by Ondesvin

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I actually have testing in my guide that I conducted on Second Wind, because the significance of using the skill was enough to warrant testing.
It even went as far as to show what weapons I used to show how I came with the effect of Weapon Physical Damage on it.

No testing I have read shows a significant gain in adding Parry. So whatever comes standard on your gear is fine.
Why not use Macro's for grouping skills? Using them in that way is much faster.

Lol it's fine Xero- the kid's trolling all the guides on the forums. I have a theory as to why after researching his gear:

a) It consists of full darklight and an AF2 helm (proof of heavy AK farming) instead of the ring, in which he has a crafted 50 stacking shit materia instead of starting with the ring and working with honest stat increases
b) His Bravura+1 shows he either has an FC to pug through content as his FC doesn't consist of a similarly geared 8 man team of note
c) He's pissed because the guides are "wrong for end game" consistently, meaning he's probably trying to pug coils of Bahamat and is mad because nobody wants him.

Hopefully he realizes that with 5 minutes and a bit of research it's amazing what you can find and piece together. He got blasted on mine yet wants to continue shitting on yours so I thought I'd provide a bit of a back story should anyone reading be taking him seriously.

no wonder you think i troll Exrage, for your guide is also a fail. Second wind is not worth it at all, its on a 2 min CD. i dont get why you want to use that. over any other cross class ability you get.