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Originally Posted by deki

Yeah, Im a little confused, because in buff description show as "Increased Attack Power"

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-It is a flat 20% increase in damage for the player. It will do nothing for pets.
-You have to re-cast DoTs while the buff is present for them to get the bonus, and the bonus persists through the whole DoT timer even if RS falls off before.
-Shadow Flare receives no benefit from RS.

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Originally Posted by pandabearcat

Bio2 (35) states it has less potency than bio1 (40), why is it ahead in rotation?

Also I am not convinced crit does anything for us (as a dps stat, it is ~39 CHC for ~1% dps increase), so I'm stacking determination.

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Bio was used last because if it used ahead you can't use fester to full potential ( you will still need to cast bio II and Miasma while wasting GCD) thunder was placed at third because after that you will instantly cast bio which basicaly 2 spell at a time and you can use fester while waiting for GCD, but if you want faster fester execution you can skip thunder. so it will be Bio II > miasma > bio > fester

I don't know about crits, but some said DoT can do crits

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Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero

/ac "Obey"
/ac "Contagion"
/recast "Contagion"

recast just for good measure, but does that look right?

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that was right, but it will still cast contagion though i think. Unlike aetherflow its not as important as aetherflow by knowing for example 12 seconds to aetherflow you will know how much rotation you need to recast the next aetherflow

about garuda, the plumes was bindable and its possible not to kill plumes as long as it binded near garuda (provide no damage inflicted to the binded plumes), you just need to kill plumes near the stone (i tried at last plumes sequence and it was detonated it its place leaving pillars unharmed, my pt doesn't agree though since they want an "usual smooth" run so i just can only experiment with that)

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

Really nice content here, guys.

My current rotation is: Spur > Bio II > Miasma > Virus > Fester

But i need to test with Bio and Thunder, never did that before. About Ruin II, i'm used to only finish mobs with this skill, because the mp is an issue.

I'll try this one asap: Bio II > Miasma > Thunder > Bio > fester This might be the best way to deal tons of DoT right now IMHO.

Also, what about your builds. Can you guys share your current SMN build and based atribute or should i create a new post?

For example, my current build is based on these atributes:

Inteligence > Critical Hit Chance > Determination

Any thoughts?

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I have yet tp clarify anything about crits so i prefer to have deter rather than crit

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Originally Posted by Makototoki

So guys do you think Enkindle is worth a slot on your hotbar? I kept it on there as a kinda oh crap moment when getting swarmed by adds.

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if you need a burst of damage, it was somehow worth a place ( consider it as a free skill )

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Originally Posted by Kevee

You never want to use off-GCD skills while on the GCD, due to animation locking.

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Don't think I agree here. I understand that it's less efficient to do so, and should be avoided when possible, but at the end of the day it's all about opportunity cost. If using an off-GCD on the GCD allows you squeeze more damage in a smaller window it will result in a net DPS increase.

As for Raging Strikes, I've personally never pulled from a tank when using it at the start but your mileage may vary.

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Originally Posted by dontcare

Don't think I agree here. I understand that it's less efficient to do so, and should be avoided when possible, but at the end of the day it's all about opportunity cost. If using an off-GCD on the GCD allows you squeeze more damage in a smaller window it will result in a net DPS increase.

As for Raging Strikes, I've personally never pulled from a tank when using it at the start but your mileage may vary.

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It will be a net DPS increase to use Ruin II/Bio/Miasma II into an off GCD skill. There is no reason to use an off-GCD skill on the GCD. If you did it instead of the ruin, as you proposed, it would then result in a later Fester or a wasted GCD, which results in every Fester and Aetherflow thereafter being later. So if you want to use it earlier, just do Ruin II instead into it.

It's pretty easy when you crit for 1.2-1.3k with RS+Fester, and up to 1.5k with a Bard. No, I won't pull if I don't crit, but I don't leave my threat to RNG.

Someone did /ac "Obey"

Does that work? Can you actually macro pet commands?

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Originally Posted by pandabearcat

Someone did /ac "Obey"

Does that work? Can you actually macro pet commands?

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it didn't, it wasnt a valid ac command i think

Good thread, I'm new to the game and just wanna ask if Aero isn't worth it as a DoT spell?

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Originally Posted by Priemo

Good thread, I'm new to the game and just wanna ask if Aero isn't worth it as a DoT spell?

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Aero is worth it as ACN, but SMN can't use CNJ spells. SMN pulls from THM and ARC.

It's a bug that SMN is listed as being able to use CNJ spells.

Updated first post somewhat,

Here is my rotation i been using past 2 days:

RS > Bio 2 > Misama > Thunder > Bio > Fester > Contagion > Ruin > Ruin II > Shadow flare (have to be quick) > Fester

After this i follow with Rouse+Spur > Enkindle (unless i need to save it. Then pop Rouse and Spur as they are up (again unless i need to save it)

My question is unless required for specifics, RS lasts long enough for the first Fester though maybe not the second.

I dont have enough room on my hot bar and as a pad player having to switch hot bars is more damaging to dps than its worth i find. So my next question is, what does your hot bars look like?

dear summoner friends ;) i have some question and some things to think about i hope i dont start a flame LOL
the first thing i noticed reading the first page of the thread is that u use only garuda as pet,i know its nice to extends ur dot but...with that recast time usually (in auto attack) it isnt so usefull most time garuda use it when 1 or 2 dots are already gone,i know u can use it manually but...we have too many skills to think about,dots areas aetherflow with stack management for mana or dps,spread dot etc etc...in a fight like garuda where u always have to watch adds and other things is quiet difficult manage correctly pet in manual
i always use ifrit as pet (at least when bosses havnt 360° aoe wich kill him) and i have to say...for adds is far far better expecially with rouse\spur most time can kill himself some adds with a little help from u with instant dot and dmg (i dont use right names because sometime i remember bad names hehe)