Idea: Limit Break System

I'm in agreement with this idea. I think there should be a "special move" that will further individualize the classes. It's always good to see someone come out and do a major show of force or action during battle.

Well, we have "Limit Breaks" already - the TP attacks are nothing else.

Problem is that they are
a) too frequently used and
b) too weak

to leave any impression. It's just pew-pew TP moves back to back, and
not the big "BOOOOOMMMM" you expect from a real Limit Break. How
long does it take you to teach 1000TP? For me, it's around 3 seconds.
That's a rather puny limit, if you can break it in 3 seconds ^.^/

2-hour abilities, while cool, have a problem: They are too powerful,
almost game-breaking. So either you tune Boss fights to be so hard
as to compensate for everyone using his 2-hour-ability (frustration
guaranteed) or tune them too easy so that you can zerg the bosses
by using everyone's 2-hour-ability. Both are not satisfactory solutions.

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Originally Posted by Rinsui

Well, we have "Limit Breaks" already - the TP attacks are nothing else.
Problem is that they are

a) too frequently used and
b) too weak

to leave any impression. It's just pew-pew TP moves back to back, and not the big "BOOOOOMMMM"
you expect from a real Limit Break. How long does it take you to teach 1000TP? For me, it's around
3 seconds. That's a rather tiny limit, if you can break it in 3 seconds ^.^/

2-hour abilities, while cool, have a problem: They are too powerful, almost game-breaking. So either
you tune Boss fights to be so hard as to compensate for everyone using his 2-hour-ability (frustration
guaranteed) or tune them too easy so that you can zerg the bosses by using everyone's 2-hour-ability.
Both are not satisfactory solutions.

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Personally, I see these TP attacks as job abilities, that actually consumes TPs, as opposed to how they worked in FFXI.

Some MIGHT argue that Weapon skills in FFXI can be considered as limit break since you tend to dish out even more damage than regular attacks (and job abilities for some jobs). Hell in that sense, I don't think I can disagree with this. However, this isn't the same idea in FFXIV, since most abilities depend on TP than just special attacks.

Limit break attacks should generally be very powerful and rare, that they should be generally 'One last hurrah!' usage, or an act of desperate measure. 2hr ability perfectly does fullfil job for most jobs in FFXI. So, I don't think they are 'too powerful' because they all have very short duration on how long these 2hrs last.

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Originally Posted by Rinsui

2-hour abilities, while cool, have a problem: They are too powerful,
almost game-breaking. So either you tune Boss fights to be so hard
as to compensate for everyone using his 2-hour-ability (frustration
guaranteed) or tune them too easy so that you can zerg the bosses
by using everyone's 2-hour-ability. Both are not satisfactory solutions.

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I feel like pandemonium warden was a result of the cross between this and a developer's MASSIVE ego, either way it was not fun for anybody but the hardcore-est of players

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Originally Posted by CSLionheart

Yoshi-P frequently mentions that he is trying to make FFXIV a more "Final Fantasy-esque" game. On top of that, 2 hour abilities were a really cool feature in FFXI that made jobs much more individualized and fun. So, why not introduce something similar in FFXIV, but rather than 2 hour abilities, call them Limit Breaks, like in Final Fantasies of the past? Limit Breaks are an iconic part of many FF games that I feel would fit perfectly in this game, and you would be killing two birds with one stone: making classes more unique AND making the game more Final Fantasy-esque.

Here's one example of how it would work: each class (of course, including crafting and gathering classes) gets its own unique Limit Break. Possibly, you could learn additional Limit Breaks as your rank increased or certain other conditions were met. Then, in addition to your HP, MP, and TP gauges, you would have a Limit gauge that slowly filled up as you defeated monsters, caused damage, crafted items, etc. When the gauge fills up, you are able to use a powerful skill that can turn the tides of battle...or crafting, I guess.

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bumping this b/c this guy called it when forums launched pretty much...

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Originally Posted by Krisan

FFVII is the only game that comes to mind that used it.

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This is wrong many times over >.<

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Originally Posted by CSLionheart

Yoshi-P frequently mentions that he is trying to make FFXIV a more "Final Fantasy-esque" game. On top of that, 2 hour abilities were a really cool feature in FFXI that made jobs much more individualized and fun. So, why not introduce something similar in FFXIV, but rather than 2 hour abilities, call them Limit Breaks, like in Final Fantasies of the past? Limit Breaks are an iconic part of many FF games that I feel would fit perfectly in this game, and you would be killing two birds with one stone: making classes more unique AND making the game more Final Fantasy-esque.

Here's one example of how it would work: each class (of course, including crafting and gathering classes) gets its own unique Limit Break. Possibly, you could learn additional Limit Breaks as your rank increased or certain other conditions were met. Then, in addition to your HP, MP, and TP gauges, you would have a Limit gauge that slowly filled up as you defeated monsters, caused damage, crafted items, etc. When the gauge fills up, you are able to use a powerful skill that can turn the tides of battle...or crafting, I guess.

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I would prefer they call Overdrive over Limitbreaks ^-^

I could have sworn limit breaks were making an appearance in XIV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxJt3UOBhU8
Is this meteor/comet at the end not a limit break?

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Originally Posted by Flowsick

I could have sworn limit breaks were making an appearance in XIV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxJt3UOBhU8
Is this meteor/comet at the end not a limit break?

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Pay attention to the dates on the posts. This is a necro thread.

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Originally Posted by Crevox

Pay attention to the dates on the posts. This is a necro thread.

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Lol I was like . . . "This thread is wrong.. what is going on, nobody remembers this system is already coming!?!?!" Then I slowly noticed 2011 wooshing by in each unhappy scroll XD