The old Monk rotation is back

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Imo, the change again misses the point. A 72s loop was fine. New muscle memory (for those using standard loop instead of any adjustment) is fine. What wasn't fine was the lack of interaction or nuke-GCD besides Opo-spender, and that remains unchanged.

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Also the fact that you as a player have to set up your UI to make tracking the orbs more manageable. Like "weak auras". Since otherwise you could quickly end up staring at the UI to check for what you had to press.

But now that's not an issue since at least for me with a controller i can just set up 6 cross hotbars that cleanly loops through the entire rotation turning the abc-123 into just 123-123...

Still hate that those two HUD elements are glued together, was hoping they would separate them when they mentioned having to update it for the reduced ball factor, but oh well.

I'm not a progger or hardcore raider or etc., but I rather liked how MNK entered Dawntrail. Not at first, but around levels 95-96, it clicked and my muscle memory went away. I really liked using Pouncing Coeurl x3 for my Solar, then 1-2-3 for my Lunar. I liked having two charges of Rising Raptor. Also, I really liked how I could DK/TwS/Demolish pretty much when I wanted to refill charges/max out charges to perform PB right then and there (sure, it was literally mid-rotation which felt off at first, but it grew to be fun for me.)

Now it's back to MNK level 60 post Nadi Gauge and I'm just over learning new playstyle for nothing and feeling extremely constricted in gathering charges of chakra for PB use. I understand I sound obtuse, but I liked MNK a lot better with how it started DT.

why is 2 couetl fury good?

I liked the 1,2,3 stacks more than the 1,1,2 stacks tbh. With 1,2,3 you just had to follow the flow of your stacks, no matter what. But with 1,1,2 one tiny mistake with PB and your DK-TS muscle memory will betray you until you use PB again or waste a stack on purpose.

Oh man, new monk felt kinda fun after i got used to it, not really the job i play though, so what ever, at least they removed the 15% damage buff, that was probably the best change of all.

I'm scratching my head at this honestly. Was there really an issue outside of relearning muscle memory? Of what consequence was the rotation not neatly looping into your 2 minute window if there are no timers to refresh, outside of hyper-optimization in burst windows?

It kinda felt like a new job and was somewhat enjoyable.

They should have kept the previous caps with these changes. That way you can cap your furys and then people who like EW Monk can do 1-1-2 and people who liked the new Monk can just freestyle all day. Also creates opportunity for decision making with Raptor and Courel stance; "Do I want to cap my furys to prep for the 2 minute burst window, or do I have enough time to cash out my furys now?". It's at least something compared to now where there is no decision making. Also more positional.

The only problems that I am having with the current state of Monk is how using DK as a starter isn't giving me an Opop-opo's Fury stack and the fact that you can store 2 Coeurl's Fury despite not being able to utilize it...properly? Not sure if properly is a good word to use, but I am finding it hard to be able to find a use for the second ball without breaking the 4-5-6 combo (Leaping Opo, Rising Raptor and Pouncing Coeurl).

Maybe lowering it to one may be better, but that just might be my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Volcannon

using DK as a starter isn't giving me an Opop-opo's Fury stack

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Form Shift before pull. It's a dumb requirement, but it's been (ever since it was implemented HW) what allows DK to actually give its stated buff without a prior loop.

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Originally Posted by Arohk

Oh man, new monk felt kinda fun after i got used to it, not really the job i play though, so what ever, at least they removed the 15% damage buff, that was probably the best change of all.

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Removing the need to maintain the damage buff broke most of the interaction between our PB-Blitz strings and their surroundings. It was, to be short, for the worse.