The old Monk rotation is back

[Asdif_Laoeg]

From the patch notes:

The following adjustments have been made to Raptor's Fury and Coeurl's Fury:

Maximum stacks of Raptor's Fury have been reduced from 2 to 1.
Maximum stacks of Coeurl's Fury have been reduced from 3 to 2.

In accordance with this change, the display of the Beast Chakra Gauge has been adjusted.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ad4c636c9bd44e

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I mean I was ready to adjust to the new flow, but I'm not gonna say no to retaining the old muscle memory.

Neat.

[VictorSpoils]

Does True Strike being stronger than Snap Punch change anything at lower levels?

[wereotter]

I had put off trying to get the hang of the new rotation... glad I waited.

[GrizzlyTank]

That's dumb

[wereotter]

That's dumb

they said in no uncertain terms that monk's core rotation in Dawntrail wasn't going to change. They messed up, and they're fixing it.

The rotation as it was before the adjustment took 36 GCDs to loop back around into itself, or more than 2 minutes. This is a good change.

[GrizzlyTank]

they said in no uncertain terms that monk's core rotation in Dawntrail wasn't going to change. They messed up, and they're fixing it.

The rotation as it was before the adjustment took 36 GCDs to loop back around into itself, or more than 2 minutes. This is a good change.

It took 12 chains to loop. And did make the rotation more interesting, now you can easily just reduce it back to the 123-123-123-123 Ad nauseam rotation.

And they gotta look for ways to move away from that 2min pattern <.<

[wereotter]

It took 12 chains to loop. And did make the rotation more interesting.

And they gotta look for ways to move away from that 2min pattern <.<

It's bad job design to have only one job that doesn't fit the mold of the two minute timer that the developers have doubled down on this expansion. If you want monk to be played even less than it is now, advocate for it to be that one job that doesn't burst when everyone else is.

Also 12 loops = 36 GCDs that's exactly what I said. Though I'll admit I mathed it wrong, it doesn't take 2 minutes, it takes 72 seconds with a 2 second GCD which means the rotation will never loop as it was if you're using perfect balance when riddle of fire comes back up.

[Pyitoechito]

It's bad job design to have only one job that doesn't fit the mold of the two minute timer that the developers have doubled down on this expansion. If you want monk to be played even less than it is now, advocate for it to be that one job that doesn't burst when everyone else is.

Also 12 loops = 36 GCDs that's exactly what I said. Though I'll admit I mathed it wrong, it doesn't take 2 minutes, it takes 72 seconds with a 2 second GCD which means the rotation will never loop as it was if you're using perfect balance when riddle of fire comes back up.

I'm confused. Are MNK's filler GCDs supposed to perfectly align to a 2-minute rotation? I thought the point of PB was you could interrupt the combos at any time to deal the big burst before returning to the standard rotation, with the new Fire/Wind Replies also adding more big damage that fills GCDs in the 2-min burst window.

Black mage doesn't align with a 2-min burst either, technically. It has buttons that are pressed every 2 minutes, but it's not like the beginning of fire phase perfectly aligns with the start of a burst window.

[SpeckledBurd]

It took 12 chains to loop. And did make the rotation more interesting, now you can easily just reduce it back to the 123-123-123-123 Ad nauseam rotation.

And they gotta look for ways to move away from that 2min pattern <.<

All things being equal, 2-3-4 Dawntrail Monk with formless Dragon Kick giving you a fury ball also meant that you'd basically ride the flank for ages so this at least makes what few positionals we have left have a little more influence on how we play.