I think its not going to be like that. I think we're not supposed to drop R & C pips to 0, so the rotation will still be the same as how it currently is.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd
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05-17-2024, 12:51 PMIanmaru
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05-17-2024, 01:23 PMMikey_RBut, there is no reason to suggest that or why that would be the the case. I basically came to the same conclusion SpeckledBurd did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ianmaru
Another thing to ponder is whether Bootshine is going to keep the auto crit or not. It is never used at anything other than max Chakra (it is never used when under Brotherhood, however, it also seems GCDs under Brotherhood don't generate a Chakra either, which I hope isn't the case).
Another thing I want to point out is at the end of the Monk showcase, RoE, RoW and RoF. It seems there are actions that proc off of them. RoE has an aura, similar to current PvP RoE. RoW and RoF is where it gets interesting. They are both elemental Hadoukens and they have the GCD yellow VFX. This suggests to me they are available when RoW and RoF are used and are likely to be in the burst window. I also want to speculate that RoW will have some other mechanic we do not see, considering RoF does give a Chakra (or it just crit/auto crit).
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05-17-2024, 02:32 PMAco505
I found the reasoning behind checking timers on MNK funny when VPR has several...
I'm also surprised that the 10 chakra limit is exclusively during BH. It'd have made more sense imho to make it permanent while not letting meditate give more than 5 chakra. -
05-17-2024, 04:41 PMSilhartHmm, it's still a little sketchy, but I think I can see the potential in what you're saying. I would laugh (and be filled with joy) if Dawntrail MNK unintentionally turned out to be a cursed spreadsheet job. If we can't have Optimal Drift as it existed in Endwalker, then I can at least hope for something in the Media Tour to push us in the cursed spreadsheet direction. I'd even take having all six positionals back, but seeing as DRG lost yet another one, that seems unlikely. Please SE, just a crumb of optimisation is all I ask for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun
The reasoning is so weird. Monks have had timers for 10 years - I don't understand why it's an issue all of a sudden. I also disagree with their assertion that MNKs spend all their time staring at timers--that should not be the end-goal of MNK gameplay. I always thought it was more a bad habit that MNK players need to grow out of with practice. To me, MNK mastery means glancing at your timers for a split second, knowing instantly what your next 9 GCDs will be, then putting all your attention on raid mechs. But I guess this experience isn't as universal as I initially thought it was.Quote:
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05-17-2024, 04:58 PMThorneDynasty
What? Taking time to learn a DPS job? Not in FF14, everyone should be able to play everything virtually perfectly after a couple dungeon runs.
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05-23-2024, 04:15 AMecho78
Good thing I gave up on this job years ago.
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05-23-2024, 05:47 AMSunhwaparkIt is like that in my opinion too - at least in a raider's approach, learning the basics > fitting those basics into mechanics for a clear > optional encounter specific optimisation for stuff like double solar openers etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silhart
Based on the live-letter presentation and the fact that right out of the gate they mentioned that the changes to all classes are in favour of 'ease of usability' - I can only feel a bit anxious about how they expect us to play for the next few years until we get the proper tool-tips from the media tour. -
05-23-2024, 10:34 AMAydenI think it is the latter, where only Bootshine, True Strike and Snap Punch will be buffed. The new gauge is there for us to see, right? The gauge information is only useful if the following is true.Quote:
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When the gauge is filled - use Boot, True Strike or Snap Punch.
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05-23-2024, 07:47 PMSilhartIt is quite concerning. If new MNK turns out to be as shallow as we feared, then I feel like we'll be stuck with that for many more expansions to come. I know there are talks of reworking the jobs in 8.0, but realistically I don't see how they can make significant changes without pissing off the players who end up enjoying the new MNK. And I'm sure there will be a lot of them, judging by how popular Endwalker SMN turned out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunhwapark
The 'ease of usability' mention (combined with Yoshi-P's comment that maybe the game has become too 'easy') does make me think that the game's difficulty will be focused on encounter design from here on out. Progging savage will no doubt be a fun experience, but once the mechanics have been mastered, there's honestly not much room left to grow, especially in a game where every mechanic and GCD can be timelined on a spreadsheet to the exact second. Reclears will become incredibly stale without anything to optimise on our jobs. I wish CBU3 would reconsider their course of action, but if this is what the people want... -
05-23-2024, 08:16 PMVentVanitasnah. I sincerely believe MNK will still be unpopular, especially so when there's a new melee that's cannibalizing some of its niches. this is the third (fourth if you count 5.4 MNK) time in a row we've seen people go "finally! they made MNK easier, now I can play it!" and none of them have ever actually made the job sustain any kind of popularity. I don't have any reason to believe that Dawntrail will be any different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silhart